It appears incidents of authority abuse are increasing world wide. Anytime you have a situation where someone is in a position of power, and someone who challenges them, things happen.

I'm posting these because I'm aware of them, seeing as I live in the US. Please do not take this as a show of anti-Western-ism.

Cnn Your opinion: Reaction to police using Taser on student
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/studentnews/09/20/student.tasered.your.opinion/
Tasered Ohio Woman Describes Agony
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/25/national/main3294648.shtml?source=mostpop_story

You have a point there...but we sure are getting some nice songs here.... If nothing else the songs help work through the whole thing. I think that's why they are so popular.

Another one:

This is the original version of Hound Dog as sung by Big Mama Thornton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XUAg1_A7IE

Good luck....

This is one The Thrill is gone:

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=lqAuuIDU2sw

The thrill is gone
The thrill is gone away
The thrill is gone baby
The thrill is gone away
You know you done me wrong baby
And youll be sorry someday

The thrill is gone
Its gone away from me
The thrill is gone baby
The thrill is gone away from me
Although, Ill still live on
But so lonely Ill be

The thrill is gone
Its gone away for good
The thrill is gone baby
Its gone away for good
Someday I know Ill be open armed baby
Just like I know a good man should

You know Im free, free now baby
Im free from your spell
Oh Im free, free, free now
Im free from your spell
And now that its all over
All I can do is wish you well

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/b.b.+king/the+thrill+is+gone_20010767.html#

Excuse me, but....:-S Just a little reminder:

Criticism of Ataturk is like holding a red flag in front of a bull....and you must know that. Without Ataturk there would be no Turkey. Including his name in relationship with Stalin or Hitler is insensitive to the extreme, or it is provocative. What on earth are you trying to do here?

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As an administrator Catwoman, it seems you should be particularly sensitive to these matters, instead of fanning the flames.
In looking at this thread (and others), it appears you are injecting religious and political matters to the conversation.

Badiadancer, there is another aspect of dance that has not been touched on in this discussion. That type is the one where the dancer is entranced and the dance is a vehicle for transformation to another state of being. Although now Flamenco is now seen as a spectator art, real Flamenco was/is used as a cathartic to work through emotions or spiritual states. If one had a pain, they would sing or dance through the pain. The audience is irrelevant, they are only allowed to watch. Even then, they tend to pollute the experience with the distraction of their presence.

I think the problem with quiting smoking is it is a combination of many habits. There is the smoke to play with. Blow it this way, make rings out of it. There are many ways to hold it that give you something to do with your hands. Then there is the general oral gratification.
I really don't think it's just the nicotine. The Indians added herbs to the tobacco, resulting in a milder smoke....and I don't mean illegal herbs. They added colts foot, chicory and some other things I don't remember now.

Hmmm...you mean....like when communications is censored by those in charge? :-S