Quoting Daydreamer:

And that word...Using analogy to the example I gave (the substitution method) If I say 'I can X a rock' X can be replaced by both move and hit. A bit different from the beat word

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In verse 4:34 we are told to Idribuuhun the women if they rebel against the society or family. So what can we idrib with women:

-We can idrib=hit the women.
-We can idrib=seperate from the women
-We can idrib=admonish them with examples
-We can idrib=have sex with them

So what is more logical in 4:34? We first read that we must talk to them, then leave them alone in the bedroom to show you are serious, and then... what? Hit them? Does that really make sense? Does that really convince them, or just make them afraid of you? Also what does rebellion mean here? Can the rebellion be determined by the man himself? Or must this be done by the State? Must we seperate from them?
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First of all, this verse does not refer to husband and wife, it uses the words Rijaal=men and Nisa=women in general.
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So the infamous verse 4:34 is not about husband and wife relationship at all. It is about the roles of men and women which they must perform in society
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Quoting Daydreamer:

Armegon will applaud her findings and find a verse from the bible talking about killing or the like. He will ignore the fact that no custom of violence is justified in bible. Oh, are we in the middle ages again?

Quoting the handsom:

Dont be cross please..
I was just correcting 'the wrongs' here..

I would be glad if you had any answers though, just to check if there is something new from islamic camp or it is just the same defense coming back again and again.

Quoting yilgun-7:

Experience about world history, world life, etc.

Quoting thehandsom:

haha
I dont have time either mate..
And I am not looking for answers really as I dont have any unanswered questions about religions in my head.

Quoting thehandsom:

But then, I would suggest, you should go to the source of the problem, rather than messing about sheiks, cults, hadiths etc..

Quoting yilgun-7:

Armegon, Have a nice day in the Middle East.We wish you good luck.
This is a good experience for you.

Quoting Daydreamer:

Oh, and that attempt with the meaning - that was actually weak, as I showed in the previous post. Was this word without context, its meaning might be doubtful.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Daydreamer:

But then he wouldn't have called her prostitute. Being raped does not make you one, does it?

I think he just wanted to make a joke