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Again, im late to respone, hows catwoman's provoking site going  ?
Quoting Daydreamer: do you really think that women in Arab counties have as many rights that they can exercise as in, let's say, Europe? |
I have no claim like above but i have problems with the ones who tries to stick all wrong-doings in the name Islam instead of people or states or traditions or politics, mixing all of them.
I dont think u pay attention but let me give a link from a Quranic perspective of Women in Islam.
Quoting Daydreamer: It is nobody's aim here to show that Islam is bad, Europe is grand. |
Then whats the aim of posting propogand videos here?
Quoting Daydreamer: But you have to be blind not to notice huge differences as far as the approach to women goes. |
So what is the point? Mean to say it is the fault of Islam? Please say it clearly, dont hide ur feelings like warmonger, unbalanced catwoman. You have to be blind not to notice it is not  .
Quoting Daydreamer: Of course, you may live a happy life thinking that all media lies and all are Israeli (or Jewish) propaganda. Well, they're not. |
Didnt you confess also about the anti-islamic broadcasting of media? Do u remember media propogand before 2001? You may live a happy life thinking Islam is the most violent religion. But sudenly i realized, u change ur opinions in ur last post. Anyway u can turn?
Quoting Daydreamer: Not credible as she's based in the USA, right? |
This will be or is a good material for propogand or for missionaries. Hey look, hows women treated in Islam the most violent religion ? Being unaware that none of them are orders of Islam.
Quoting Daydreamer: I don't understand why you're deciding to turn a blind eye to what goes on in the world... |
Same applies to you also.
Quoting Daydreamer: Actually I don't consider myself very open-minded. |
Post was not adressed to you , you replied, anyways…
Quoting Daydreamer: Actually I don't consider myself very open-minded. What I questioned, however, was the intention why you expressed such support to Alameda-The-Israeli-Is-Unreliable, if you support what she believes in so much, it means you find the situation depicted in the videos that you didn't watch not credible. And the fact that it was a video translated by an organisation sponsored by the Israeli intelligence, made you agree on its lack of credibility. And, consequently, if you find those videos not true, it means that you find the situation of women in Arab countries (Lebanon here) different to what those videos show. |
I thanked to Alameda because she researched and unveiled the intention behind the video. I have never said anything about the videos whether they are depicted true or not. Blaming Islam results nothing, only hatred between the people grows as i said before.
Then lets see as an example what some passasges of bibles says about women which gathers no result and still billions believe them nothing matters if they practice or not...
Quote: 22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, 27 for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [c] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. |
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And again good research Alameda about the word 'dharaba'. Edip Yüksel who i do not always agree, translated the word in that verse like 'admonish them with examples' which maybe the closest meaning i think.
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i'm just against to all prejudicies and i'm on the side of maximum tolerance.Sure i'm not to mad for defend any wrong thing,i'm just against to blame a whole culture about some wrong samples.How can a spesific country or a few bad samples represent a whole culture or belief??we all have to show more effort for creating a more peacfull world instead of to make deeper diversities and prejudicies...And again i want to replay critism sure needed and usefull for fix problems but away from all double standarts by to be all objective..
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