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Thread: Welcome to Kurdistan

841.       armegon
1872 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:25 am

Of course he is, but he uses just a cover like all fethuallhcý mentality, actually thats their main problem. He curses sheria, but the ones who he quoted their articles here adore sharia, i know this because i lived among them, they say among people “Atatürk büyük bir liderdi” but when they are together by themselves,  they say “ Beton Kemal”  thats what i witnessed. So chiko i congratulate, you said this openly, actually i really hope this from you. But a sad news for you, you cant be a puppet leader or a subcontractor of imperialists, you can only be a pawn  

 

 

Quoting chiko

thehandsom, i read your article. i wonder if you blame your great! leader Ataturk for this situation as much as you blame Bahceli?

 

 



Edited (2/22/2009) by armegon



Thread: Dutch Pedophilia Party

842.       armegon
1872 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 07:24 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 
(bkz: ben bugun bunu gordum)

 

 

 

 

  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

843.       armegon
1872 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 07:19 am

i was thinking what happened here



Thread: Pickles

844.       armegon
1872 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 07:03 am

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Turkishness only pertains to handsom, not me. I don´tknow know what that word means actually.  

 

 lol me too, some translates it into Turkish Türkiyelilik, what a lame word ...



Thread: Can anyone help me get the postal code?

845.       armegon
1872 posts
 18 Feb 2009 Wed 11:57 pm

 

Quoting azade

In my experience the postalcode is not important (perhaps if it´s a big city), it gets delivered anyway - also if the adress is messed up

 

 I agree



Thread: Gazanfer Özcan passed away

846.       armegon
1872 posts
 18 Feb 2009 Wed 11:54 pm

Allah rahmet eylesin. Kuruntu ailesi ile büyüdük biz...



Thread: Can anyone help me get the postal code?

847.       armegon
1872 posts
 18 Feb 2009 Wed 05:28 am

 

Quoting Melek74

 

 

Isn´t Çiftlikköy in the Yalova province not Mersin?

 

Yep, but she stated the city Mersin, and i guess there are many Çiftlikköys in Turkey. So i googled Mersin and Çiftlikköy and found the link below; there is also town called Çiftlikköy in Mersin...
http://www.mersinciftlikkoy.bel.tr/



Thread: Can anyone help me get the postal code?

848.       armegon
1872 posts
 18 Feb 2009 Wed 03:47 am

It should be 33160.  And the adress is then: Merkez Mah. Hoca Ahmet Yesevi Sok. No:31 33160 Çiftlikköy/Mersin

Quoting princess68

I´ve been trying to find the postal code for the following address given by a friend but my search was futile. I couldn´t get in touch with my friend. The address is

 

merkez mahallesi hoca ahmet yesevi sokak no:31 ciftlikkoy

mersin, turkey

 

Is the address complete? I need to send something soon. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks you.

 

 



Thread: 8 Beheaded in India

849.       armegon
1872 posts
 16 Feb 2009 Mon 05:46 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 Then you will have to listen to what others will have to say as well..

 

 I listen everyone and because of this i post my opinions, simply those are responses.

Quote:

yeah yeah yeah.. There are very clear and distinct orders in Quran such as chopping hands of theives etc..

where are you going to put them..eh?

, very clear says who? ill-intenioned people? As i said its realted to knowledge and how you approach Quran, Here is an explanation, explains 5:38
http://www.submission.org/satan/theft.html
And here is another intepretation;

“5:38 (Theft is a crime that steals away the sense of security from a society). A habitual thief, male or female, must have their ability (to steal) cut off. This is the reward for their doings, and a deterrent from Allah. Allah is Almighty, Wise.
[For QAT’A, the so-called cutting of hands, please see 12:31. ‘Yadd’ = Hand = Ability. ‘Allah’s hand’ at many places in the Qur’an, of course, denotes His Power and Authority. So, consider all circumstances with wisdom, and take measures to prevent this crime in the society] Here´s the reference from Mathew Chapter 18, Verses 8-9 (The New King James
Version).
"And if your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from
you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than
having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire.
"And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is
better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes,
to be cast into hell fire.
5:39 Whoever repents after the crime and makes amends, surely, Allah grants him pardon. Verily, Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (If the hands are cut off, where are the making amends, pardon and mercy?)”

Quote:

As long as your posts promotes Islam (or any religion) , there will be some posts slamming down Islam (or any religion)..
And Will you care to tell us all why I am here then?
Will you be able to discuss "anything, but anything" without resorting to personal insult!!..
Are you that weak?

is your  belief that weak? 

are your ideas that weak?

 

I have no problem about the posts criticizing Islam  till their intention is not Islam blackening rather than knowledge. thehandsom how many times do i need to say you that why you are here? Actually i havent see personal insult in my last post, but your post is far more cynical than my post.



Thread: 8 Beheaded in India

850.       armegon
1872 posts
 16 Feb 2009 Mon 04:31 pm

 thehandsom, you better stop talking nonsense. When Islam is being discussed, of course i have my right  to give my opinions.  You can take anything out of context,  if one only take the part of the verse to prove cruelty of the teachings of Kuran, we call this ill-intention. Let me give only one example, im sure that link also contains this;

“ 2/190-193 “And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors. And kill them wherever you find them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. And do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then kill them, thus is the reward of the disbelievers. And if they cease, then God is Forgiving, Merciful. And fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God´s. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.”

 

Anyone can understand from the above verses, fight can be made only againgst people who fight you and for the case of self defence. In its every above mentioned phrase, there is a check. ?...Do not transgress... Allah does not love the transgressors... Do not fight them near the Mosque unless they attack you... If they desist, know that Allah is forgiving, Merciful... But if they desist, fight not except the oppressors...?. Anyone has taken out the sentences from in-between to prove the cruelty of the teachings of Kuran. Similar is the case of other verses that are quoted out of context. Please consider that these instructions are not the instruction for normal peace times. These are the war time instructions when war is imposed upon the believers. Kuran instructs that the war is not declared on every unbeliever. Even during the war with the unbelievers, distinction has to be made in case of those who have treaties with the believers. Treaties have to be honoured. Even with those who impose war upon the believers, instructions are given for a respite from war in the four sacred months. “


But ill-intenioned people somehow forgot the verse 2/190 or forgot that these verses are the war time instructions when war is imposed upon the believers.

 

By the way mr. thehandsom, there is no exact translation of Quran in any language because its original itself like how a song translated in another language, mostly loses some parts of its emotions but still understandable. Also translator can add his personal interpretations(some with paranthesis, some with directly), personal thinkings or own understanding of the verse according to his/her view of Islam. Some translations influenced by hadiths, sunni teachings or shia teachings differs from translator to translator. For example in English there are several translations, each translated the verses using different English words, but the meaning is close. Its still better to read Quran in your native language but comparing it with the other translations if you dont know Arabic.

 

Lastly if you did care, the discussions is not started by me usually. Have you ever seen any of my threads promoting Islam? But people begin to understand why you are here very well{#lang_emotions_wink}

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

We are accustomed to "parts of Quran verses taken out of context" excuse. Instead of moaning about it, why dont you come up with the ´correct´ translation and with their contexts?

There are many verses in Quran (or any religious book really) which make you wonder how those can be described as ´divine´.

 

As a note, as long as you come here to promote your religion ´how peaceful it is´,  there will always be some critisisim.

You better get used to it..

 

 



Edited (2/16/2009) by armegon [take the wrong quote :)]



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