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thehandsom, you better stop talking nonsense. When Islam is being discussed, of course i have my right to give my opinions. You can take anything out of context, if one only take the part of the verse to prove cruelty of the teachings of Kuran, we call this ill-intention. Let me give only one example, im sure that link also contains this;
“ 2/190-193 “And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors. And kill them wherever you find them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. And do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then kill them, thus is the reward of the disbelievers. And if they cease, then God is Forgiving, Merciful. And fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God´s. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.”
Anyone can understand from the above verses, fight can be made only againgst people who fight you and for the case of self defence. In its every above mentioned phrase, there is a check. ?...Do not transgress... Allah does not love the transgressors... Do not fight them near the Mosque unless they attack you... If they desist, know that Allah is forgiving, Merciful... But if they desist, fight not except the oppressors...?. Anyone has taken out the sentences from in-between to prove the cruelty of the teachings of Kuran. Similar is the case of other verses that are quoted out of context. Please consider that these instructions are not the instruction for normal peace times. These are the war time instructions when war is imposed upon the believers. Kuran instructs that the war is not declared on every unbeliever. Even during the war with the unbelievers, distinction has to be made in case of those who have treaties with the believers. Treaties have to be honoured. Even with those who impose war upon the believers, instructions are given for a respite from war in the four sacred months. “
But ill-intenioned people somehow forgot the verse 2/190 or forgot that these verses are the war time instructions when war is imposed upon the believers.
By the way mr. thehandsom, there is no exact translation of Quran in any language because its original itself like how a song translated in another language, mostly loses some parts of its emotions but still understandable. Also translator can add his personal interpretations(some with paranthesis, some with directly), personal thinkings or own understanding of the verse according to his/her view of Islam. Some translations influenced by hadiths, sunni teachings or shia teachings differs from translator to translator. For example in English there are several translations, each translated the verses using different English words, but the meaning is close. Its still better to read Quran in your native language but comparing it with the other translations if you dont know Arabic.
Lastly if you did care, the discussions is not started by me usually. Have you ever seen any of my threads promoting Islam? But people begin to understand why you are here very well
We are accustomed to "parts of Quran verses taken out of context" excuse. Instead of moaning about it, why dont you come up with the ´correct´ translation and with their contexts?
There are many verses in Quran (or any religious book really) which make you wonder how those can be described as ´divine´.
As a note, as long as you come here to promote your religion ´how peaceful it is´, there will always be some critisisim.
You better get used to it..
Edited (2/16/2009) by armegon
[take the wrong quote :)]
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