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Thread: what caught my eye today

821.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 03:05 am

 

Quoting _AE_

Welcome back Armegon - its nice to see you here again

 

 Thank you dear _AE_Thank you, thank you!Flowers, it is nice to see you here again and it is nice to be in thehandsom´s class as well



Thread: Separation paranoia or would education in Kurdish separate Turkey?

822.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 03:02 am

 I mean the concepts of this initiative is unknown. Do you know the concept? If so please tell us, and people can learn. By the way if you are talking about MGK by saying army also approves this, i cant say anything about that as i dont know the concepts of MGK meeting. But highly possible that tayyip lied to them as he lied in Azerbaijan parliament .  Just look at the latest army declarations online and understand why ur dear al-taraf, zaman vakit and variety of republic enemies attacking them whereas the declarations were very levelled and very-well organised that i completely agree.  So where are we now? Whats the concept of this Kurdish initiative, whats the purpose? Why ur dear akp hesitating to voice it? And why they suddenly changed the agenda to the armenian initiative ? What Kurds demanding from the state? If it is concession rather than a Turkish citizen, of course im against it, and if the army approves this, im against them too, im sure they are prepared to see more anarchism then maybe another warWink, so nothing changes from my side, now lets see what is this initiative and lets see how it works or not...

Quoting thehandsom

what unknown initive?

The kurdish initive which is done by the government endorsed by the army and Turkish people?

What you are saying as an answer to Kurdish PROBLEM is being said for last 25 years and the result is 70.000 dead..

You may have desire to see another 70.000 people dead (rather than giving their basic human rights) but TURKS AND KURDS dont..

That is where we are now, despite your annoyance lol lol ..

(But a year ago or so,I have already told you these )

 

 



Thread: Separation paranoia or would education in Kurdish separate Turkey?

823.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:15 am

 Yep, dont you like it?  Those are truths that we exprienced, of course not my made-ups, those are the observations of public. So now whats the reply to my question? What are demands of Kurds? What is this unknown initiative?

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I can not see any answers armegon I do NOT think you are telling the truth there..

and THE  solution is this?

 Turks expect initiative from Kurds, like its beter if they do not stone the government offices as they just used those offices, its better if they choose parlimentarian not from a prison but from a school, its better if they send their girls and boys to school instead of demanding official Kurdish education, its better if they riot against their feudal system instead of state, its better if they do not sabotage the enterprices and investments that the state provides, then the problem is mostly solved... 


lol lol lol 



 

 



Thread: Separation paranoia or would education in Kurdish separate Turkey?

824.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:35 am

I replied questions and proposed a solution if you can read since the problem stems from the Kurds themselves. And instead of repeating the same things, the question should be replied that is what they want from state now other than ordinary Turkish citizen have.

Quoting sthehandsom



Thread: Separation paranoia or would education in Kurdish separate Turkey?

825.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:01 am

 As usual you jumped thehandsom, what is your post relevance to my post except your standard agitations? I dont need to research ethnicities as the ones who killed were Turkish citizens. And regarding the bones you mentioned, do you know their ethnicities? do you mean 17000 people´s bones found? In fact its proved bones were dog bones. I explained the solution in my previous post if you read carefully. Actually they have the same rights like all Turkish citizens. The question is what they want from state now other than ordinary Turkish citizen have.

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Do you know how many people died exactly?

Can you show me an official documentation showing the ethnicity of the people who died?

Can you tell us how many of them were kurdish and how many of them were turkish?

Can you also tell us that how those kurds died (a mass suicide)?

Do you know how many times our own goverment punished by EU human rights court? (do you recognize is as a court?)

Do you know that there are 17.000 kurds gone missing  and their bones are being found here and there? how do you think they have gone missing? magic?

And what do you think the solution from your side apart from ´we want to kill them all and cause many more  turks-kurds got killed´?

If they were not rebelious, put your hand into your heart and tell us, would you give any RIGHTS to the people who said they were kurds?

I mean would you recognize their identity? would you recognize their language?

 

 

 

 



Edited (9/5/2009) by armegon



Thread: Turkey, Armenia agree to establish diplomatic ties

826.       armegon
1872 posts
 04 Sep 2009 Fri 11:16 pm

Arabulucuya bak hizaya gel, Ýsviçre ,  you are subject to be jailed in Switzerland if you say there is no armenian genocide had taken place...



Thread: Separation paranoia or would education in Kurdish separate Turkey?

827.       armegon
1872 posts
 04 Sep 2009 Fri 11:01 pm

 Exactly!

Quoting bydand

                                                                                                                                                Quote Elisabeth

but the heart of the problem seems to be the Kurds themselves. Concessions will have to be made on both sides but many of the Kurdish people don´t seem to be willing compromise.

 

 

 

 



Thread: Separation paranoia or would education in Kurdish separate Turkey?

828.       armegon
1872 posts
 04 Sep 2009 Fri 11:00 pm

 Thats true something changed under the pressure of EU, thats people became more hostile to eachother.  And what about thousands of innocent Turkish citizens killed by Kurdish facists? As i know Kurds are using their language everywhere except the official institutions. Besides what are their cultural holidays? As far as i know nowadays they celebrate the 15th of August where 33 Turkish soldiers killed which is not cultural. By the way is there a country called Kurdistan established that we dont know? As some members here comparing it to Turkey & Poland. History repeats itself and i advice you to research how many Kurdish riots uprised during war of independence and the following years instead of trying to give history lessons here and who were behind those riots. In fact Turks expect initiative from Kurds, like its beter if they do not stone the government offices as they just used those offices, its better if they choose parlimentarian not from a prison but from a school, its better if they send their girls and boys to school instead of demanding official Kurdish education, its better if they riot against their feudal system instead of state, its better if they do not sabotage the enterprices and investments that the state provides, then the problem is mostly solved... 

Quoting catwoman

 

I am not sure how it is now, some things have changed under the pressure of EU, but not that long ago, before the barbaric tortures against Kurds by the modern turkish government, Kurds were not even allowed to use kurdish names for their children, not to mention celebrating their cultural holidays, or using their language in public places..

 

I do wonder why Clinton is so loved by Turks, maybe the atrocities against Kurds campaign and US involvement has some insight into it..

 

 

 



Thread: arabic-english translation request

829.       armegon
1872 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 10:56 pm

Þöyle olabilir; "tamam sus artýk yeter, Türk hahah çok uðraþtýrdýn beni".

 

Tabi kesin emin deðilim mesela "hakir" kelimesinden, "tabaan" normalda yorgun demek ama burda mecazi kullanmýþ gibi, dalga geçer gibi, mesela "yordun beni, uðraþtýrdýn beni" gibi ... 

Quoting mltm

Soryy for this translation request, but I´ll delete this thread as soon as I get my answer.

 

 

"taib skut ya hakir, turki hahah eh tabaan ;-!"

 

 



Thread: Gifts dilemma!

830.       armegon
1872 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 10:32 pm

What dilliduduk said of a high percentage true for Turkish people...



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