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Thread: Turk and Turkmen

591.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 01:21 am

 

Quoting doudi94

the morrocan and alerian and libyan dialects i dont even know how they sound because ive never seen their media, they dont have popular isngers or srtuff but i think its close

 

 They have!

Forexample Cheb Mami, Khaled, Faudel etc, but gulf arabians told me that they don´t understand much from their dialects.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PMzIl_MnKrQ&feature=related

 



Thread: Expressions Eng-Tur

592.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 09:07 pm

 

Quoting Merih

 I agree with Meltem for the second and third on, but the first one could also be said in a different way:

 

Her ne sebeple (bu yolu) seçmiþ olursan ol, bu yol seni hiç bir yere götürmez..

 

 Yes I think yours sounds much better. In fact, I did not like mine, but I tried to stay as close as possible to the original one so that he understands.



Thread: turkish - english please

593.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 07:45 pm

 

Quoting GinaG

A

 

 

 

þk Kaðýda Yazýlmýyor Aþký Kalbinde Yaþamalýsýn

thank you

 

 Love cannot be written on paper, you have to live it in your heart.



Thread: Expressions Eng-Tur

594.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 07:41 pm

 

Quoting ZulfuLivaneli

Combinations with -ever:

 

For whatever reason you might have taken this path, it leads to nowhere.

 

Whereever you might go (i will follow)

 

However hard you try (you will fail)

 

 

For whatever reason you might have taken this path, it leads to nowhere.

Ne (hangi) sebeple bu yolu almýþ olursan ol, hiç bir yere götürmez.

 

Whereever you might go (i will follow)

Nereye gidersen git takip edeceðim (or peþinden geleceðim)

 

However hard you try (you will fail)

Ne kadar denersen dene baþaramayacaksýn.



Thread: any chance E-T thank you

595.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 07:37 pm

  

Quoting sonunda

What do you want me to bring from Kelly

 

Kelly´den ne getirmemi istiyorsun?    (I think)

 



Thread: How Gay Are You?

596.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 07:04 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

dont cry meltem..you are breaking my heart now..

But you are right..This is a beautiful place..Just lovely!

Do you want anything from here?

 

 In my time, there was very little in Turgutreis, it was very very calm, virgin and very few people visited there and mainly there was nature. I hope it has not become too much commercialized. I love white Bodrum houses and the flowers that we call "Bodrum çiçeði". Everytime we brought some Bodrum çiçeði and plant it in Istanbul, they would never be as nice as in Bodrum, and most of the time they would die.  



Thank you for the reconcilation.



Thread: e-t asap

597.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 06:29 pm

  

Quoting Ebbyru

Thank you very much Mltm




Thread: A claim: "Kurds do not divide Turkey but Invade"

598.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 06:25 pm

This article has been around for a while, I do not know its source, I couldn´t find who wrote it, but I offer you as a different point of view on the subject (probably an extreme one). These are not my opinions and are only translated by me.

""Kurds do not divide Turkey but Invade

Today half of the Kurds are living in western cities such as Ankara, Ýzmir, Bursa,Ýzmit,Adana,Antalya, Mersin, Konya, Manisa, Aydýn,Samsun.

Even in Thracian and Blacksea region, the Kurdish population has been rapidly spreading. Such that, more Kurds have been living in the other parts of Turkey than the place that the Kurdists call Kurdistan. Furthermore Kurds have been obtaining the most important positions where they live, and have been rapidly rising economically, socially and culturally. Besides Kurdish population have a growth rate that is incomparable to the Turkish population.

According to the calculations, in 20-25 years Kurdish population will exceed the Turkish population. In this respect conscious and planned actions have been being carried out, the Kurdish population-growth has been being consciously encouraged. While this is done, in the cities such as Tokat, Amasya, Afyon Kastamonu, Sinop, Çankýrý, Zonguldak,Samsun, Ordu, Sakarya, Giresun, Trabzon, Gümüþhane, Çorum, Edirne, Uþak,Kýrýkkale, Bartýn, Karabük where Turks are the majority, under the name of “family planning”  the Turkish population-growth is tried to be restrained.

Turkish population-growth has stopped and it even shows a tendency to decrease. However, the family planning works in the Southeast have been failed because of the Kurdists that make the region population conscious in this respect. What’s more, by the AKP government’s coming to power the family planning in the Southeastern region has been ceased and the programme of distributing money per child has been started. In other words even more increase of Kurdish population has been intended. For Kurdish families, having many children has got to the point of a conscious movement.

According to the claim of Haftalýk magazine;

In Turkey, Turkish population growth ceased 10 years ago, and for 5 years it has entered into a decreasing phase. The number of Turks decrease by 0.8% each year while Kurds increase at least by 3% each year. It is said that the population growth in Turkey is a Kurdish product. While agreeing this claim, I also think that the increase of arabs and gipsies should not be ignored.

One of the important declarations that reveals the aim of the Kurdistanization of Turkey belongs to the assassinated famous Kurdist journalist Musa Anter. Musa Anter by saying “Ýstanbul is the biggest Kurdish city.” “We are not so stupid to wish the division of Turkey and give up on Ýstanbul, Ankara and Ýzmir.” has very simply and bravely gave voice to the main goal that Kurds have in their mind. And maybe because of this and such declarations he made, for revealing the hidden aims he has been assassinated by PKK thinking that he harms Kurdism.

Today many holding companies of Turkey are owned by Kurds. Many giant corporations such as Toprak Holding and Ceylan Holding are owned by Kurds. Apart from this, Kurds dominate the business branches that bring hot money with a 75% share. Kurds have come to a dominating position in commerce in every region and city, it should not be very difficult to estimate that Kurdish riches support Kurdism, but do this in a very skilful and sneaky way.

The donations that make the Kurdish singers that earn large sums of money to Kurdist organizations are not a secret. The cultural storm that is blown in the media by the Kurdish origined singers who take part for free in the organizations that are organized by DEHAP (a pro-Kurdish political party) municipalities is based on the politics of the Kurdization of the cultural and artistic climate of Turkey. The Turkish culture which is tried to be captured by the Kurdish songs or the musical products with a Kurdish accent and the TV series that are produced in the frames of the Kurdish cultural identity faces degeneration and assimilation.

In politics, as well, a Kurdization has been experienced in its true meaning. At least half of the deputies and ministries in the Grand National Assembly of Turkey are Kurdish origined. Not only the Southeast deputies but also an important portion of the Central and Western Anatolia deputies are Kurdish origined. In this point, it should be recalled that Mesut Barzani said “I have seventy five men in the Grand National Assembly of Turkey.” If Barzani has seventy five men then Talabani must have at least that much of men as well. And think about the number of the deputies that are Apo (Abdullah Öcalan, the founding leader of PKK) supporters.

The Kurdish origined deputies would not hesitate to do what is required by their fundamental identity when the appropriate political and social atmosphere forms (they already do it sneakily). In order to give you an idea about it, let us remind you the voting that took place in the near past. The political attitudes of the East and Southeast deputies that upon the wishes of Barzani  and Talabani rejected as a whole the offer of the USA to the Turkish army to carry out  a joint operation to northern Irak are known.

 

In order to demonstrate the power of Kurds in politics, we should, as well, recall that the former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Abdullah Gül boasted by more than half of the AKP deputies being Kurdish origined. Anyway, Abdullah Gül himself is not a Turk either. His family moved to Kayseri from Siirt in the past.

The statement of Baykal (leader of the Republican People’s Party, CHP) is tragic but true

He states in a statement he made to Takvim newspaper:

“Kurds can have the most beautiful yalý (a seaside house in Istanbul) and the most beautiful girls of Istanbul. Our everything is common. For this reason Kurds would not want a separation either.”

Tragic but a true determination. Let’s figure it out it. Except a couple of idiot Kurds, no Kurd wants separation. Their intention is not to divide or to get divided but to get the resources and the cities of Turkey. In the meanwhile, they will, of course, consider it a gain if they can obtain an autonomy in the cities that they will get the majority in the Eastern and Southeastern Anatolia.

As some shallow minded people believe, the name of the real danger is not the “separatist Kurds”, but the “invasive Kurds”."

 

 



Thread: How Gay Are You?

599.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 05:36 pm

Ohh Turgutreis, it just brings me good child memories. I passed a lot of summers there when I was very young. And now after all those years, I don´t know it has become like what.  



Thread: e-t asap

600.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 11:54 am

 

Quoting Ebbyru

can someone translate a small bit of text for me teþekkürler

 

"Zehra would you be in Izmir if I decide to go there the day after my birthday - November 20th? Because I want to go out this time if I come. I get very bored if the answer is no then I won´t go this year I guess. I´ll only be there for 12 days because I am currently at college on a evening course 1 evening a week on Wednesdays ´til End of January. And at college during the day 2 times a week plus I go to placement on wednesdays during the day. So I can´t miss more than a week. If you could reply to this message fast I´ll be grateful"

 

 

thanks to anyone that can translate this for me

 Zehra, eðer doðumgünümden bir gün sonra, 20 Kasým´da Ãzmir´e gelmeye karar verirsem orda olacak mýsýn? Çünkü eðer bu sefer gelirsem dýþarý çýkmak istiyorum. Eðer cevabýn hayýr ise çok sýkýlýrým, o yüzden bu sene gelmem sanýrým. Orda sadece 12 gün kalacaðým çünkü Ocak sonuna kadar haftada bir gün çarþambalarý kolejde akþam kursundayým. Ve kolejde haftada iki gün ve ayrýca çarþamba günleri birinin yerine geçiyorum. O yüzden bir haftadan fazla kaçýramam. Eðer bu mesaja hemen cevap verirsen, minnettar olacaðým.

 



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