Mumbud thanks for your reply. I am crossing fingers for you that your love will only grow stronger. I agree with you - he sounds serious about you and why not seize the day. Go for it hun!

My friend and I continue to create a unique different friendship despite our obstacles on both sides. I was ready to say that if family came first and my presence made things too difficult better that I walk away - but I was very sad about this.

Without prompting he told me last night, that he won't let his dad be like that to me again - and that if I come to Istanbul he will take me away to another city so that I don't need to face this. I never thought he cared so much. I was very touched. Just proves that we can't be too harsh about our Turkish men because I think the majority of guys are really kind and do care. I feel we should hold onto that - because just like every UK girl is not a wanton slut and exception to the rule - it's the same the other way around.

Best of luck - hope to hear all about your trip - hope you have a GREAT time.

Thank you very much.

Can you help me send a short Bayram message in Turkish lutfen:
Maybe others can use it too.


I am wishing you and your family a very blessed Bayram. Have a happy time.

I think this thread is very interesting. Tourist areas are something else but maybe some men there are exceptions. We can't generalise so much - every person is different. I agree with mumbud that English girls have a reputation I have seen how some behave - it's not nice and I was embarressed.

It is so nice to see there are people out there looking to what is on the inside of a person rather than outside. It is very true that the nicest people are not always beautiful on the outside.

Is it possible to love more than one person openly,honestly and not have any jealousy happen? I think so. But this is a very individual thing. Maybe very few can be like this - I don't know. A lot of times people lie and have affairs or end up in longterm relationships that are not as happy as they could be. Don't get me wrong please - I am against affairs and lies and secrets. Also I am against loose sex for the sake of sex alone. It's too painful and often the innocent partner is the last to know. But there is a third way...not good for everyone I know and very unconventional and sometimes difficult, but sometimes it works very well.

Mumbud mentioned his family would not be happy if they married - this is interesting. Mumbud do you mind if I ask you are they happy for you to be b/f and g/f? I wonder. I get a lot of opposition from my friends family and we are just friends. His father never talks to me - he stands there staring at me and says he hates me even though the man does not know me. He tries hard to intimidate me. I don't understand this - it is strange to me that ones family has so much power even when one is a grown up person.

I wish all of you the best with your loves.

Awww - sorry you feel so bad. Sometimes we think too much and then it all builds up. I agree with the above post best thing is to do something nice and relaxing. To try to stop thinking so much. It is not easy but you will see if you can take your mind off things you will feel some improvement.

Sending you good vibes and hope you feel better soon.

Thank you both very much. Now I understand much better.

Please can you translate this above. Is it Bayram today? I feel so stupid I don't know!

If it is Bayram I wish all my classmates a very happy blessed time.

I used the dictonary to try to find the turkish word for poetry but it gave me 3 words. So now I don't know.

Please which one is right? şiir, koşuk, nazım ?

Thanks

Erdinc what can I say - Thank you is not enough.
I too like poetry the best one day I hope to write it in Turkish lol...that's going to be a mission!


Again thanks for doing this I very much appreciate your time to help me.

Erdinc Thank you so much for the help. I have a lot to learn but I was pleased I got some sentences right.

The dictionary is soooo clever. Wow - what a feature! This site is so cool.