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Thread: MY LYRICS - POEMS - PASSAGES

6581.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 03:28 pm

Quoting ciko:

but but translation would take its beauty away


I agree..But it is a great poem though



Thread: T2E Lutfen another small one

6582.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 03:26 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

He was either trying to type simplistic for you to understand, or he never went to school nor ever spoke turkish!!


haha
Or he is just a 3 years old child, using his father's msn



Thread: MY LYRICS - POEMS - PASSAGES

6583.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 03:11 pm

I did not read all of them but I can see, they are full of emotion and a criticism: they are self centered a bit.
If you dont mind I would like to add a can yucel poem:

BAĞLANMAYACAKSIN…..
Bağlanmayacaksın bir şeye, öyle körü körüne.
"O olmazsa yaşayamam." demeyeceksin.
Demeyeceksin işte.
Yaşarsın çünkü.
Öyle beylik laflar etmeye gerek yok ki.
Çok sevmeyeceksin mesela. O daha az severse kırılırsın.
Ve zaten genellikle o daha az sever seni, senin o’nu sevdiğinden.
Çok sevmezsen, çok acımazsın.
Çok sahiplenmeyince, çok ait de olmazsın hem.
Çalıştığın binayı, masanı, telefonunu, kartvizitini…
Hatta elini ayağını bile çok sahiplenmeyeceksin.
Senin değillermiş gibi davranacaksın.
Hem hiçbir şeyin olmazsa, kaybetmekten de korkmazsın.
Onlarsız da yaşayabilirmişsin gibi davranacaksın.
Çok eşyan olmayacak mesela evinde.
Paldır küldür yürüyebileceksin.
İlle de bir şeyleri sahipleneceksen,
Çatıların gökyüzüyle birleştiği yerleri sahipleneceksin.
Gökyüzünü sahipleneceksin,
Güneşi, ayı, yıldızları…
Mesela kuzey yıldızı, senin yıldızın olacak.
"O benim." diyeceksin.
Mutlaka sana ait olmasını istiyorsan bir şeylerin…
Mesela gökkuşağı senin olacak.
İlle de bir şeye ait olacaksan, renklere ait olacaksın.
Mesela turuncuya, yada pembeye.
Ya da cennete ait olacaksın.
Çok sahiplenmeden,
Çok ait olmadan yaşayacaksın.
Hem her an avuçlarından kayıp gidecekmiş gibi,
Hem de hep senin kalacakmış gibi hayat.
İlişik yaşayacaksın.
Ucundan tutarak…

CAN YÜCEL

Sui, fancy for translating this?



Thread: T2E Lutfen another small one

6584.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 02:57 pm

Quoting mahey01:

Quoting Alisaxxx:

Ben 2ay kalmak kiraci big problem anne üzülmek sorun olmak.



I will stay 2 mounths. renter is a big problem, my mother upset for this


I guess it is your GUESS too



Thread: T2E Lutfen another small one

6585.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 02:52 pm

Quoting Alisaxxx:

Ben 2ay kalmak kiraci big problem anne üzülmek sorun olmak.


my guess
I stay(ed) 2 months, lodger is big problem, my mother is upset, this is a problem.



Thread: The Trouble With Self-Hating Turks

6586.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 01:50 pm

I would agree with most of what is written by Mustafa Akyol (He is clever, I would recommend his blogs http://www.thewhitepath.com english one, the turkish one is http://www.mustafaakyol.org)
However:

if they are not combined with contempt for, and discrimination against, traditional people. Yet that is precisely what one finds among the Turkish elite. In their cultural universe, anything that represents traditional Islam is depicted as idiotic, dark and threatening. They enthusiastically support the oppression of religious people by the state and even ask for more of it.


Although I never considered myself as a Turkish Elite, I have different understanding of what traditional Islam is in Turkey. The version of Islam practiced in Anatolia has always been different than what he thinks traditional Islam is. Traditional Islam in Turkey has always been much more softened version of Islam. And that is the reason Ataturk easily got rid of sheria. People did not insist on it. And I dont believe majority of Turkish Muslims think that there is opression on them because of their religion. However, people feeling oppressed 'in this issue' are , possibly, the extremists ones. (Of course, there is a generic lack of freedom in the democratic values in Turkey).
And I, personally, find Sheria dark, dogmatic and threatening.

When you you start claiming your freedom by saying that 'I want my head scarf because my qouran dictates it' (and 'also, I have to live my life according to sheria because my qouran says it too'. Now, of course the second part, is never mentioned in public.). Then, people are wondering why you are not saying the second part. Then people get suspicious!! Those people know what qouran says too.

I think the real problem is laying in Islam/Qouran itself.
It requires REFORMING.
You cant go around and say the things like:
-kill all kaffirs
-Men are more privileged than women
-Cihad is 'farz'
-hand chopping for stealing..
..
Well..Not in this century.

As I said before, islamists should clear themselves from Sheria first. Otherwise people will always be suspicious and they will always think of them the grandma in Little Red Riding Hood.



Thread: How many 5 year olds could you fight?

6587.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 02:14 am

It seems I can handle only 12..
And I am quite proud of it



Thread: What are you listening now?

6588.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 02:10 am

spain Chick Corea
John Coltrane- A Love Supreme Part 4 (Psalm)



Thread: Secular Apartheid at Work

6589.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 02:08 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:


Well its great to be a woman with balls! But a man without is just.. a dick


lol This will hurt!!



Thread: Secular Apartheid at Work

6590.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Jan 2008 Wed 12:05 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Missionaries. traitors, deserters, PKK supporters are all having a ball !

There is something wrong here....


I wonder which one I am. lol
However, an advice to the writer: doing it against a wall of a mosque is not recommended!!!



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