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Thread: The Turkish Blutfahne (Blood Flag)

6601.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 06:41 pm

Quoting ciko:


beginning 1940?!!!! sorry but turkish racism started after 1923 ..unlike we read in our formal high school books


I agree
Actually, the entire 'young Turks' movement in balkans had those ideas. So, the start date should be even before 1923.

I always thought, it was kind of understandable when you think of time they lived in. Most of the people, who managed the independence war, were young turks, including Ataturk himself.





Thread: The Turkish Blutfahne (Blood Flag)

6602.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 06:19 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quote:

I am sure neither the Turkish students who created our own "blood flag" nor the authorities who liked the idea would have sympathy with the Nazi ideology. And their nationalism cannot be compared to the fascism of Adolf Hitler. But the similarity we see in these cases is still disturbing and still needs some explanation.



Yet, I do find it very unhealthy as well as strange to put their own blood on the flag.

Also, interesting to see that Turkeys educational system doesn't expand on World War I and II.


It is quite unhealthy.. I agree.
However, WW I is not the missing one, the writer is talking about WW II.
I think there is a point there. Because, beginning of 1940 is the time when turkish nationalism started to change its face. It is the time when nationalism, inherited from 1920's (from Ataturk), started to become more and more racist. There were many nazis in Turkey at the time apparently. And there was huge surge in racism.

I think the point can be taken that in Europe, for the countries which joined war, the result was catastrophic. The blame went directly to racism. And the racism, somehow, was crushed.
Because Turkey did not suffer the consequences of the war as much as europe, our racism stayed intact.
And here we are



Thread: Please T to E

6603.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 01:59 pm

Quoting astry1:

this is on an E keyboard

Huzunlu bir ilkbahar ak sami buruk bir yagmur tanesi olsam sacinin teline dussem suzzulsem yanagindan yuregine akmak istesem beni yuregine alirmisin



If I was a drop of rain, at a sad spring evening, and then drop on your hair, flow to your face and then want to glide into your heart, would you take me in?



Thread: Need help

6604.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 01:55 pm

Quoting Ivaylo:

Hi all.I really need some help...Please would you translate me these articles in Turkish...Please:

1.
My name is Ivaylo.I live in a small town in South-east "Country".It is very beautiful town with small buildings and large alleys.It's very calm and quiet.I love my town.
2.
My family has 3 members.I have brother and father.My brother is a student and my father is a teacher.They are very nice people.I love them very much!
3.
I live in an block of flats.It's very beautiful.there are 2 bedrooms,kitchen,living room,children room and 4 balconies.
The rooms are very wide and clean.


1. Benim adim Ivaylo. 'country'nin guney dogusunda kucuk bir kasaba da yasiyorum. Kucuk binalari ve genis caddeleri olan cok guzel bir kasaba. Sessiz ve sakin. Kasabami seviyorum.
2.Ailem uc kisiden olusuyor. Bir erkek kardesim ve babam. Kardesim ogrenci ve babam ise ogretmen. Iyi insanlar. Onlari cok seviyorum.
3. Apartman'da yasiyorum. Cok guzel. 2 yatak odasi, mutfak,oturma odasi, cocuk odasi ve 4 adet balkonu var. Odalar genis ve temiz.



Thread: Phrases for health-related situations

6605.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 11:14 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting thehandsom:


well..actually..I am quite conservative about swimming trunks.
My family ordered some shorts from an online cataloge for me without asking my opinion..
And than OMG blue shorts with purple points on it. They said 'oh but we will be wearing matching things'.
we went to turkey that summer and to the see and my sister's husband come and asked me, smirking, 'was it really difficult to find those shorts?'
And it was the moment when my manly pride took its deepest wound.


Poor baby! What a trauma for you...how old were you? 30-40?


I was 65 at the time



Thread: Phrases for health-related situations

6606.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 02:42 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting thehandsom:


I thought they made men look sexy..
I am throwing mine into the bin right at this moment..lol


You can be so frightening sometimes!


well..actually..I am quite conservative about swimming trunks.
My family ordered some shorts from an online cataloge for me without asking my opinion..
And than OMG blue shorts with purple points on it. They said 'oh but we will be wearing matching things'.
we went to turkey that summer and to the sea and my sister's husband come and asked me, smirking, 'was it really difficult to find those shorts?'
And it was the moment when my manly pride took its deepest wound.



Thread: Phrases for health-related situations

6607.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 01:58 am

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting AlphaF:

Have you nothing to say about US thong bikinis?



Could somebody tell me why some German men insist on wearing thongs on the beach? The last time I encountered this it put me right off my lunch


I thought they made men look sexy..
I am throwing mine into the bin right at this moment..lol



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

6608.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 11:41 pm

This incident reminded me this famous experiment.
here is the link the experiment



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

6609.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 11:37 pm

Quoting Erdem:


I am sorry I can't lock the thread. It is already a severe insult. If not, please tell me some severe insult examles so that I can understand how a thread or posts can be severe insult. On the other hand, you should read forum rules too.There it is obvious what to be deleted or not.



As far as I know there was no insult in that thread. yet to call what is written was 'severe insult'.
To be honest most of the rules are quite open to subjective judgment. Therefore I dont think somebody can clearly say that this is insult or this is not. So it is better not to insist on 'i was simply implying the rules or laws'



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

6610.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 11:29 pm


Quote:


What are your evidences to judge me? You say "IT IS WRONG!! Respecting Ataturk is one thing" What are other things? Yes, I respect Ataturk. You say you find him heroic. Is to find some heroic enough to show respect? I am sure there are lots of children who find Spiderman heroic. Do you think they respect Spiderman too?


The wrong thing is deleting a thread beacuse somebody mentioned 'ataturk might be gay'. What happens if somebody mentions that? Ataturk is Ataturk. Is it going to change your respect to him? is it going to change my respect to him? Is deleting the thread the only way to defend him?
Are you unable to defend him?
WELL.. I AM.

Quote:


I think you are talking about yourself while saying " we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom.."


I was not talking about myself really.
I will stick to what I said :" we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom.."

Quote:


Please tell me the limits of democracy and freedom. Do you think democracy and freedom is unlimited? If so, why do we need laws?


There should not be very many limits in democracy and freedom to be honest.
I have no problem with the necessity of laws. But I am against the misconception of the laws.
Laws are there to protect the basic freedom of human beings.
Not to prevent the freedom.



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