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1.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 07:44 pm

Hi,

I personally wonder how a non-Turkish person regards a Turkish lover, what you see as the difference between your men-your women or Turkish men-Turkish women.
I am a Turkish girl but my boyfriend is American. I had only 1 Turkish boyfriend so far and I have lots of male Turkish friends but I realized the fact that the point of views and most of the things between me and Turkish men are just quite different. The rest of my boyfriends were non-Turkish ones: German, British and American.
It would be nice to hear your ideas and comments.

2.       Trudy
7887 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 07:49 pm

Well, the only Turkish boyfriend I had reacted so typical and negative that I hope he is not a role model to the others!

3.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 08:29 pm

i think u get men who are good and bad from every country..so a relationship with a turkish man is no different to one from my own country..

4.       jackieeuk
72 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 08:37 pm

i think there will be a broad spectrum of answers here as we are all different and of course our partners/lovers will also be different.
my own personal findings are that european men will say what they think are not scared of saying things that will upset and can behave in a disrespetful way but then i have seen people in such a happy blissful loving relationship that make me think what have i done wrong lol
Turkish men well ive only had one in my life and im marrying him he is much more reserved but so funny and will deffinately wont say anything to upset me or hurt me even if i deserve it lol i have actually persuded him to say things jokingly because it doesnt mean any harm in england but he stil sometimes finds it hard to accept, he is very very kind and loving which i never found in an english man but as ive said i have seen it in other relationships and its lovely to see
English men are not worried about swearing in front of women (well some) whilst Turkish men i have only ever seen to be totally respectful of the fact there are women about and they ensure their behaviour is appropriate.

Kind Regards

Jackie
xx

5.       susie k
1330 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 08:46 pm

6.       karekin04
565 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 08:54 pm

I know you have good and bad everywhere but I have found that foriegn men (not american where I'm from) seem to think more before they speak unlike american men who will say what they know will upset. My fiance who is turkish has always been very respectful of my feelings more then anyone i have ever met ANYWHERE, almost to the point where he is scared to say some things that most people would say without even giving it thought. Its not just him either, any turkish man I've ever met is the same, very respectful with words. None of that "macho" be a jerk to look cool kind of thing. Thats just what I've found.... Lucky me

7.       jackieeuk
72 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 09:30 pm

i totally agree with you two, the trouble with me is someone asks a question i asnwer it honestly perhaps i should stop and think before i write, also i am not tarnishing all men with the same brush as hopefully my comments in brackets predicts because if im considered to be the same as some women i have seen then i would be very upset indeed lol.
am i digging another hole for myself ?
i think i better get ready for work lol

Kind Regards
Jackie

xx

8.       balguzel
61 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:00 pm

a british girl dating a turkish man in the uk is totally different from dating a turkish man in turkey....trust me at least wen there in the uk they eitha jave a passport or dnt care coz there already in the country xxx there should be more warnings 2 young girls goin on holiday 2 turkey not 2 fall for their charm becoz it can land u hot water xxx as i found out xxx but on the other hand i am very happy my best friend is male and turkish and i love him 2 pieces xxxx

9.       susie k
1330 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:03 pm

10.       balguzel
61 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:11 pm

Quote:

Yes but they are not all the same!



I do agree 2 an extent xxx i have many male turkish friends and i have been lucky 2 have them....but at the end of the day there are some dangerous men lurking round in popular resorts of turkey.....they shud make it more known 2 young women of the dangers.

in marmaris there was an attack on a young girl everynight...because these young girls go on holiday...fall for their charm and end up bein attacked or forced 2 do things that they do not want 2 do xxx

11.       qdemir
813 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:18 pm

Quote:

I realized the fact that the point of views and most of the things between me and Turkish men are just quite different



like what?

12.       balguzel
61 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:21 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

I realized the fact that the point of views and most of the things between me and Turkish men are just quite different



like what?



like the fact that some (not all) turkish men belive that its is ok 2 sleep with other women as long as the return to their wife and children at the end of the day....

I kno 2 many turkish men like this....

But most of them are the best people u will ever meet xx

13.       qdemir
813 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:22 pm

Quote:

in marmaris there was an attack on a young girl everynight...because these young girls go on holiday...fall for their charm and end up bein attacked or forced 2 do things that they do not want 2 do xxx



Are you talking about the Marmaris which is located in Turkey? You are not the only person who have been to there before!...

14.       qdemir
813 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:24 pm

Quote:

like the fact that some (not all) turkish men belive that its is ok 2 sleep with other women as long as the return to their wife and children at the end of the day....

I kno 2 many turkish men like this....

But most of them are the best people u will ever meet xx



The question hasn't been addressed you, has it?

15.       balguzel
61 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:29 pm

Quote:

Are you talking about the Marmaris which is located in Turkey? You are not the only person who have been to there before!...



i lived there the best part of my life actually....
i feel sorry for the women that are taken advantage of...which is true

dont get me wrong i love the place and the people but...like i sed women should me made aware of the dangers!!!!!!!!!!!

16.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:31 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

I realized the fact that the point of views and most of the things between me and Turkish men are just quite different



like what?



I am a pretty liberal-minded person. I don't like being felt jealous, I don't like being told what to do(because I am not a obedient or a submissive person unfortunately - or maybe fortunately , I don't like being judged because of the make-up I have or because of something I wear. As balguzeli stated the fact (I read it on the newspapers as well) %75 if Turkish men have sex before marriage but they expect their women to be virgin which is a kind of unjustice. The other reason is that I get sick of Turkish men's obsession on blond girls. I am a brunette beauty myself, ha !
But I never claim Turkish men are not good enough or men enough. Some are very caring, true lovers (Didn't British press call Turks "Love Mice" Lol!) and ideal father figures.

17.       qdemir
813 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:35 pm

As for you comment if there are men looking for one night stand and doing that shouldn't there be a number of women which is equal to that of men? If so what and who are you critizing on here?

18.       balguzel
61 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:36 pm

exactly im in a relationship with a trukish man and they are very caring people and great lovers lol x but tre is bound 2 be many different points of view here!!

19.       balguzel
61 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:39 pm

Quoting qdemir:

As for you comment if there are men looking for one night stand and doing that shouldn't there be a number of women which is equal to that of men? If so what and who are you critizing on here?



i wasnt talking about 1 nightstands becoz u do that out of choice i was talking about the hundererds of women RAPED evry year....

and i was not critisisn any1

20.       qdemir
813 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:44 pm

Quote:

QUOTE] wasnt talking about 1 nightstands becoz u do that out of choice i was talking about the hundererds of women RAPED evry year....



hundreds in where? Don't say in Marmaris or in some other places in Turkey.[

21.       balguzel
61 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:47 pm

in turkey...marmaris partiucally....and u acnnot say that it doesnt happen in turkey becoz turkey and the uk have 1 of the highest ratings of rape in the world

22.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:49 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

i wasnt talking about 1 nightstands becoz u do that out of choice i was talking about the hundererds of women RAPED evry year....

and i was not critisisn any1
[/QUOT

hundreds in where? Don't say in Marmaris or in some other places in Turkey.



Well, the raping issue happens in most of the Mediterrenean countries indeed Balguzeli. Don't think Spain, Greece, Italy or Portugal are too different than Turkey when it comes to rapes. But then I also read an article in the newspaper that %50 of a certain nation's women confessed the fact that(I won't give the nations' name because I don't want to offend anyone) they come Turkey to have sex with Turkish men besides having a Mediterrenean holiday. What about that? :-S

23.       qdemir
813 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:51 pm

Quote:

in turkey...marmaris partiucally....and u acnnot say that it doesnt happen in turkey becoz turkey and the uk have 1 of the highest ratings of rape in the world



I don't know the rate in England. However it isn't that high in Turkey. On what grounds and sources are you giving that rate in Turkey?

24.       qdemir
813 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:54 pm

Quote:

they come Turkey to have sex with Turkish men besides having a Mediterrenean holiday. What about that?



And they are the ones who call "Bodrum" as "Bedroom"

25.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 11 Nov 2006 Sat 11:56 pm

By the way I have been to Marmaris as well. A wonderful place, worth to go and to see. Most of the tourist population were British when I went there with my family. We even met a very sweet British family there. But then as far as what I observe some Turkish or Kurdish guys exaggerate the degree of intimacy with the tourist girls...

26.       balguzel
61 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 12:04 am

Quoting turkishgirll:

By the way I have been to Marmaris as well. A wonderful place, worth to go and to see. Most of the tourist population were British when I went there with my family. We even met a very sweet British family there. But then as far as what I observe some Turkish or Kurdish guys exaggerate the degree of intimacy with the tourist girls...



YES...over exaggerate...

and by the way i have already experienced the worst that cud happen 2 a girl while in marmaris
and i have many friends that see it happen every week
it was in a british magazine "Take a Break" that turkey (especially marmaris bodrum olu deniz and side) hav one of the highest ratings of rape on british and europeon women!!!!

27.       qdemir
813 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 12:20 am

Quote:

and by the way i have already experienced the worst that cud happen 2 a girl while in marmaris
and i have many friends that see it happen every week
it was in a british magazine "Take a Break" that turkey (especially marmaris bodrum olu deniz and side) hav one of the highest ratings of rape on british and europeon women!!!!



As far as I can see your source is a British magazine. Magazine! nothing serious.

Have you witnessed a rape in Marmaris and done nothing?
You can't be serious. Have the so-called rapes happened in the streets of Marmaris!? And also you can't expect anyone to believe that.You are talking in a way that as if nobody has been to Marmaris before except you. Moreover have the victims come to you to say that they had been raped instead of going to the police?

One more thing, you said you had spent quite a long time in Marmaris in one of your previous posts above. What I have difficulty in understanding is that why did you stay in such an environment as you claim for so long


I see your point of view which is the same with that of British magazine. You don't need to say more.

28.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 12:30 am

i think both sides need to be more flexible with their approach in regards to this issue..yes people are raped in such tourist resorts..but that doesnt say if they were raped by turkish emn or tourists it just says they were raped..people are raped all over the world..
and i completely agree with u turkishgirl..some girls go on holiday just to have sex..but we don't criticise these [people here..just the men that do the same(no im not referring to rapists here im talking about consuensual sex)!!
i think thats called double standards..
aklso the smae problem exists as in the UK too many women are so drunk that they lose all inhibitions and thoughts and then decide to say they were raped..no this isn't the case in all so called 'date rape' cases but is the case in a lot of legal decisions that have been made in english courts of law..
in order to get a true and valid picture of the rape situation in turkey or any other country we should vcheck our facts thoroughly not just read magazines which are there to make people buy them..otherwise known as 'shock tactics'. this doesn't mean that everything printed is wrong..it is just overexaggrated in order to sell the magazines..the same as with all other forms of media
neway just my opinion

29.       christine
443 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 12:55 am

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

But then I also read an article in the newspaper that %50 of a certain nation's women confessed the fact that(I won't give the nations' name because I don't want to offend anyone) they come Turkey to have sex with Turkish men besides having a Mediterrenean holiday. What about that? :-S



So this means 50% of women just go to turkey just to enjoy their holiday.

30.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 01:34 am

Quoting qdemir:

But then I also read an article in the newspaper that %50 of a certain nation's women confessed the fact that(I won't give the nations' name because I don't want to offend anyone) they come Turkey to have sex with Turkish men besides having a Mediterrenean holiday. What about that? :-S



Talking about Dutch, qdemir? (No, I am not offended).

31.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 01:36 am

Noooooooooooooooooo! Why are you discussing this AGAIN! How many threads do we have about this subject now? It is still LOVE DAY..... love you all !

Goodnight lol!

32.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 01:37 am

Quoting aenigma x:

Noooooooooooooooooo! Why are you discussing this AGAIN! How many threads do we have about this subject now? It is still LOVE DAY..... love you all !

Goodnight lol!


Well, doesn't love include sex or vice versa most of the times? (Though I do love you ALL, I would NOT want to have it....!)

33.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 01:39 am

Quoting Trudy:

Well, doesn't love include sex or vice versa most of the times? (Though I do love you ALL, I would NOT want to have it....!)



No! I love red wine, for example, but I don't want to have sex with it!!! lol

34.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 01:41 am

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Trudy:

Well, doesn't love include sex or vice versa most of the times? (Though I do love you ALL, I would NOT want to have it....!)



No! I love red wine, for example, but I don't want to have sex with it!!! lol



Really not?

35.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 01:54 am

Nope Trudy, not Dutch women..

36.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 02:07 am

turkish girlssssssss,stop this inferiority!!!

37.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 02:18 am

Quoting Lapinkulta:

turkish girlssssssss,stop this inferiority!!!



turkish girlssssssss,stop this inferiority complex!turkish men joined EU but u still at the same point

we are proud of and respect to the turkish women who are carriying of the necessary things for their family and care more about their children in Anatolia...we proud of and respect to the men Who care about their wives,children...
I can guess why u have added that subject ,hahaha

38.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 04:02 am

I joined EU twice by 2 different European men sweetie Now I am with an American man as I told before... I have nothing to feel jealous about cause that's my personal choice not to be with a Turkish men. Happy European Union celebrations to you with Turkish men then

39.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 04:07 am

Quote:

I can guess why u have added that subject ,hahaha




It would be so wonderful if you share your idea about why I chose this subject? I would like to learn my own ideas from your mouthpiece, now that I don't know about myself, huh? Probably I am way too liberal than you thought. Don't try to judge me with the limited knowledge of what you know about Turkish girls. So don't bother yourself, stick with what you guess about me so far

40.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 06:28 am

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

in turkey...marmaris partiucally....and u acnnot say that it doesnt happen in turkey becoz turkey and the uk have 1 of the highest ratings of rape in the world



I don't know the rate in England. However it isn't that high in Turkey. On what grounds and sources are you giving that rate in Turkey?



qdemir, why are you so ferociously denying these things??? I'd like to see YOUR sources on which you base your opinions!
it's a known fact that rape and infidelity is rampant in Turkey, especially in the touristic locations.
it's enough to get Turkish newspapers (not even magazines) to watch porn over there, so go figure how they behave. a lot of those guys are perverts who got used to double standards and then when western women visit and do sleep around, they judge them and have no respect for them.

I hate the term "easy girl". since when sleeping around is a problem for you guys? guys are the biggest sluts on the earth, but for some reason I haven't heard the term "an easy guy" used in the same negative way as it is for the women. god!! I'm so sick of the double standards... what is really so negative about "easy girls" is that they are free and men can't stand that, well.. a little more complicated then that, but whatever. I'm not talking here about women who sleep around for the sake of improving their self-esteem by feeling attractive to some slutty dude, but women who are free and choose who they sleep with and sleep who they want to sleep with!

I say - western women, go to Turkey, use and dump those bastards! (sure, some are not bastards and those deserve respect).

I can't stand women who embrace the idea that they are allowed less then men (in order to think that they are "good girls" or to get respect by obediently following the rules made by their male dominant society they live in...), and who let guys control their lifes and tell them what they should or shouldn't do.

41.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 10:42 am

Great Grrrrrrlpower, Catwoman!

42.       Aslan
1070 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 10:55 am

Quoting Trudy:

Great Grrrrrrlpower, Catwoman!



+1


...you have a splendid brain, Catwoman...and you sure know how to use it! I envy your sharp tongue and can´t say more than I agree!

43.       ramayan
2633 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 03:16 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Trudy:

Well, doesn't love include sex or vice versa most of the times? (Though I do love you ALL, I would NOT want to have it....!)



No! I love red wine, for example, but I don't want to have sex with it!!! lol



but dear dont make generelazition...its wrong....der r ppl who have sex with the things or person or ppl they luv....

44.       ramayan
2633 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 03:50 pm

Quoting turkishgirll:

Hi,

I personally wonder how a non-Turkish person regards a Turkish lover, what you see as the difference between your men-your women or Turkish men-Turkish women.
I am a Turkish girl but my boyfriend is American. I had only 1 Turkish boyfriend so far and I have lots of male Turkish friends but I realized the fact that the point of views and most of the things between me and Turkish men are just quite different. The rest of my boyfriends were non-Turkish ones: German, British, Swedish and American.
It would be nice to hear your ideas and comments.



dear friend..i think it would be great to live this differancy by urself....the only thing u need to do is to find a turkish boyfriend....and also at the same time go back to ur old boyfriends too...and compare them....
(i hope u dont have trouble with the dinner times and appointments) hhehe
why dont do do this..its so wise idea if u couldnt understand till today hehe

45.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 03:57 pm

Done is done, gone is gone... I don't go back to my ex-boyfriends.
There is a saying in Turkish :Ex'ten next olmaz.
I am happy with my American boyfriend now and I am in love with him. I am not thinking about any other man right now. Thanks for your modest offer.

46.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 04:01 pm

Ramayan, now that you got a quotation from my first post in this forum, absorb the meaning of it please.

47.       ramayan
2633 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 04:01 pm

ouh yes not at all...i just wanted to help u..its a really big problem after having a boyfriend and as a turkishgirl...hehehe ehh if u r so scientific person u would do it and create ur own theory if u r coward nobody can help u...im sure u lost that turkish guy bcos of this hahahah....he must have been so happy now

48.       SERA_2005
668 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 04:58 pm

my boyfriend and i are that couple that seem to be everywhere you go.The kind of couple that single people hate because we are in love and totally happy.I suppose this is what you might call the honeymoon period even though its not that,well not literally anyway.we got engaged on my birthday last month when i was in ankara and i am the happiest i have ever been.I wouldnt like to comment too much on 'turkish men' because they are all different so its an impossible task.I can only comment on my own in saying that he is wonderful.I am making you sick i know but those of you who are in love like me will know what i am talking about.

49.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:32 pm

50.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:35 pm

Quoting turkishgirll:

...now that you got a quotation from my first post in this forum, absorb the meaning of it please.



Well I must admit, I have read your initial post a few times now and it IS rather bizarre

You are comparing lovers like you might, for example, compare different wines!! It seems...well...rather clinical! What is next on your list? An Australian perhaps? Or maybe a Frenchman? Do you keep a card index of each one, with notes to compare?

51.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:36 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Do you keep a card index of each one, with notes to compare?



Great idea. I start immediately.

52.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:39 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting aenigma x:

Do you keep a card index of each one, with notes to compare?



Great idea. I start immediately.



Errr hmmm. You may need to to check them for you?!!

53.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:41 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting aenigma x:

Do you keep a card index of each one, with notes to compare?



Great idea. I start immediately.



Errr hmmm. You may need to to check them for you?!!



Do you check them out for me? And then ear-tag them, with different colors for different gradings?

54.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:45 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Do you check them out for me? And then ear-tag them, with different colors for different gradings?



Well, I was thinking more about awarding them Michelin type stars, and tattooing it on their heads. It would be of invaluable help to other girls, don't you think?

55.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:48 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Trudy:

Do you check them out for me? And then ear-tag them, with different colors for different gradings?



Well, I was thinking more about awarding them Michelin type stars, and tattoeing it on their heads. It would be of invaluable help to other girls, don't you think?



Also fine. Just say if you need help.....

56.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:49 pm

57.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:50 pm

Quoting susie k:

I think that this should be made compulsory throughout the world! Tag all the men so women know what they are getting!!!!



Haha - unfortunately, I think we ALL know what we are getting !!!!

58.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:52 pm

59.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:53 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting susie k:

I think that this should be made compulsory throughout the world! Tag all the men so women know what they are getting!!!!



Haha - unfortunately, I think we ALL know what we are getting !!!!



No, sometimes the wrapping is nice to see but the present inside awful and vice versa.

60.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 05:55 pm

61.       qdemir
813 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 06:09 pm

Quote:

qdemir, why are you so ferociously denying these things??? I'd like to see YOUR sources on which you base your opinions!
it's a known fact that rape and infidelity is rampant in Turkey, especially in the touristic locations.
it's enough to get Turkish newspapers (not even magazines) to watch porn over there, so go figure how they behave. a lot of those guys are perverts who got used to double standards and then when western women visit and do sleep around, they judge them and have no respect for them.

I hate the term "easy girl". since when sleeping around is a problem for you guys? guys are the biggest sluts on the earth, but for some reason I haven't heard the term "an easy guy" used in the same negative way as it is for the women. god!! I'm so sick of the double standards... what is really so negative about "easy girls" is that they are free and men can't stand that, well.. a little more complicated then that, but whatever. I'm not talking here about women who sleep around for the sake of improving their self-esteem by feeling attractive to some slutty dude, but women who are free and choose who they sleep with and sleep who they want to sleep with!

I say - western women, go to Turkey, use and dump those bastards! (sure, some are not bastards and those deserve respect).

I can't stand women who embrace the idea that they are allowed less then men (in order to think that they are "good girls" or to get respect by obediently following the rules made by their male dominant society they live in...), and who let guys control their lifes and tell them what they should or shouldn't do.



Catwoman, I am not the one who is ferociously denying anything, if you mind reading over my previous posts - especially the one you have just quoted- I'm sure you will be able to see what I am talking about exactly, but there are some who are ferociously attacking Turkey under the pretext of critizing and concealing their real intents by saying "I love Turkish people BUT ...., or they.... , but some are not bad." . When there is anything to critize in a neutral manner such critisms are always wellcome on here. I am the first to critize such things (you can see my posts for that)

As for the rape issue some sound as if women are being raped in every two seconds in some parts of Turkey. If you read my previous posts over you must have noticed that I am not denying that such rapes happen in those parts of Turkey. It is sad to say that all sorts of rapes happen not only in holiday resorts but also in other parts as they happen in any other parts of the world. However the rate isn't that high as some claim. If you and those claiming such a high rate have a number, for example, the number of women who were raped in the places in question last summer I would like to know that.

I am not defending attidutes of some people towards women in holiday resorts or critizing the reason for some women coming to such resorts. But what I am against is the rate of rape mentioned by some on the thread. I think rape is such a crime that the penis of the perpetrator should be cut out and inserted into his mouth. It is therefore we should be careful before putting forward such an accusation
and claim such things wihtout having concrete evidences.

62.       balguzel
61 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 06:10 pm

haha

63.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 06:12 pm

64.       balguzel
61 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 06:21 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

qdemir, why are you so ferociously denying these things??? I'd like to see YOUR sources on which you base your opinions!
it's a known fact that rape and infidelity is rampant in Turkey, especially in the touristic locations.
it's enough to get Turkish newspapers (not even magazines) to watch porn over there, so go figure how they behave. a lot of those guys are perverts who got used to double standards and then when western women visit and do sleep around, they judge them and have no respect for them.

I hate the term "easy girl". since when sleeping around is a problem for you guys? guys are the biggest sluts on the earth, but for some reason I haven't heard the term "an easy guy" used in the same negative way as it is for the women. god!! I'm so sick of the double standards... what is really so negative about "easy girls" is that they are free and men can't stand that, well.. a little more complicated then that, but whatever. I'm not talking here about women who sleep around for the sake of improving their self-esteem by feeling attractive to some slutty dude, but women who are free and choose who they sleep with and sleep who they want to sleep with!

I say - western women, go to Turkey, use and dump those bastards! (sure, some are not bastards and those deserve respect).

I can't stand women who embrace the idea that they are allowed less then men (in order to think that they are "good girls" or to get respect by obediently following the rules made by their male dominant society they live in...), and who let guys control their lifes and tell them what they should or shouldn't do.



Catwoman, I am not the one who is ferociously denying anything, if you mind reading over my previous posts - especially the one you have just quoted- I'm sure you will be able to see what I am talking about exactly, but there are some who are ferociously attacking Turkey under the pretext of critizing and concealing their real intents by saying "I love Turkish people BUT ...., or they.... , but some are not bad." . When there is anything to critize in a neutral manner such critisms are always wellcome on here. I am the first to critize such things (you can see my posts for that)

As for the rape issue some sound as if women are being raped in every two seconds in some parts of Turkey. If you read my previous posts over you must have noticed that I am not denying that such rapes happen in those parts of Turkey. It is sad to say that all sorts of rapes happen not only in holiday resorts but also in other parts as they happen in any other parts of the world. However the rate isn't that high as some claim. If you and those claiming such a high rate have a number, for example, the number of women who were raped in the places in question last summer I would like to know that.

I am not defending attidutes of some people towards women in holiday resorts or critizing the reason for some women coming to such resorts. But what I am against is the rate of rape mentioned by some on the thread. I think rape is such a crime that the penis of the perpetrator should be cut out and inserted into his mouth. It is therefore we should be careful before putting forward such an accusation
and claim such things wihtout having concrete evidences.



yes thats fair enough wat im saying is that people should be made more aware of the dangers wen they visit foriegn countries not just turkey........

65.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 06:25 pm

Quoting balguzel:

yes thats fair enough wat im saying is that people should be made more aware of the dangers wen they visit foriegn countries not just turkey........


The way you say it seems like travelling is dangerous. Well, stay home if you think so. I travelled through 20 countries, by bus, by bike, alone and with just my ex-partner and nothing ever happened. Am I lucky? I guess so, but also always prepared for what to do and where to go and I use my common sense.

66.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 06:26 pm

67.       nastica
201 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 06:39 pm

Be happy

68.       juliacernat
424 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 07:17 pm

merhaba!
Turkishgirl asked a question and it seems to me that the discussions have slipped towards a different subject
After all, she wanted points of view on "Turkish lovers"!
Love, in general is a sensitive matter and the judgemets of the heart are always difficult to explain and to understand....
Still, from what I've seen and experienced, there is a tendency in Turkish men to show a higher sesitivity and tenderness... I like to believe they are honest and sincere in most of the cases...
Maybe because the sun brights in this country more and it is wellknown that love and sun are good friends

However, here it is sth to guide you all on the complicated path of love:
WHEN YOUR HEARTS ARE ON FIRE, THAKE CARE NOT TO HAVE SMOKE IN YOUR EYES!

69.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 07:20 pm

Quoting qdemir:

I think rape is such a crime that the penis of the perpetrator should be cut out and inserted into his mouth.



Yes! Completely agree with you on that one!!!

Qdemir, I see your point, but you didn't back up your objections with any information either and I'm sure that rape is high in many parts of Turkey.

70.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 07:22 pm

71.       kai
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:02 pm

AHhhhhh agree with so many peolpe here lol

First: Susie K....."what is wrong with an English man?" my response would have been "what is wrong with a Turkish man?"

second: Aenigma: Why do we have to start this sort of thing all over again!?!?!

and the last parts....... Yeah I agree that Turkey is a well place for it's 'men' but the thing is not all male Turks are like this.....for example: three of my turkish uncles have got married to an English woman and after at least 10 years (for the shortest amount of time) they are still happily married with my cousins as living proof!...My turkish uncles are always warning me of men in Turkey though lol...and then I simply say but your not like that .....though unfortunatly I was in the situation myself (my ex boyfriend is now in prison for 8 years).

Nevertheless because of my ex boyfriend it does not mean I will never trust a Turk again .....lie robin said you get men like that all over the world - in all different countries" though not as much but it does not mean we have to discriminate all me from one country because of the actions of other men in their country.

Oh and did I foegt to add I agree with WOMEN CHEAT AS WELL AS MEN!

72.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:15 pm

Quote:

Well I must admit, I have read your initial post a few times now and it IS rather bizarre

You are comparing lovers like you might, for example, compare different wines!! It seems...well...rather clinical! What is next on your list? An Australian perhaps? Or maybe a Frenchman? Do you keep a card index of each one, with notes to compare?




You sounded so funny to me, with this post I am trying to figure out people's general point of view on TURKISH LOVERS. It is nobody's business if I have Frenchman or an Aussie in the future. I leave the keeping a card index of each one to you if that would entertain you. Everybody is like a different world himself so OF COURSE you compare and contrast (without telling him) your experiences and what you see in him or what you saw in your ex-lovers whom you had. That's how you learn not to make the same mistakes with a different person. Like the comparison in different wines as you stated... Everybody has different taste so might be interested in different characters, what's wrong with that?!?

73.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:15 pm

I don't get what this discussion is all about. How can you compare lovers on the basis of nationality? Were that possible there'd be a worldwide research done and the guys from the "bottom nations" would only dream of getting a partner.

Men are men, women are women! In every nationality there are good and bad lovers, just as there are good and bad people. True, we can discuss the culturally influenced Turkish "softness" and sweettalking which are typical of eastern regions, but will it provide us with the answers we're looking for? Do you think that choosing a guy from a particular country minimizes your chances of getting coned? I don't think so. Every relationship is an individual matter. I know girls who are happy with their Turkish boyfriends and those who were cheated on, just like I know those who are happy with their fellow-country men and those who are unhappy in such relationships.

I strongly feel this is not a matter of culture or nationality that faciliates or puts the relationship at risk. It is the people who are involved that make it a bliss or a cuse.

Sticking to stereotypes does more harm than good. If we assume that Turkish guys are players who go for western girls just to gain some experience before marrying a decent Turkish virgin would be unfair to both men and women as not all Turkish guys are like this, let alone all Turkish girls!

On the other hand, assuming that all Turks are passionate, delicate and sensitive creatures may end up in somebody's getting wrongdone by an individual who is not like this.

As far as I'm concerned, we all have our own minds and life experience to judge everybody that we are willing to start a relationship with. Regardless of nationality, religion or culture. Is that enough to stay out of trouble? Hardly so, but that's what life is about - nothing ventured, nothing gained!

74.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:19 pm

Quoting ramayan:

ouh yes not at all...i just wanted to help u..its a really big problem after having a boyfriend and as a turkishgirl...hehehe ehh if u r so scientific person u would do it and create ur own theory if u r coward nobody can help u...im sure u lost that turkish guy bcos of this hahahah....he must have been so happy now



Ramayan, make him happier if you want. I will give his contact number to you!!!

75.       kai
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:21 pm

Damn well said Daydreamer!

76.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:22 pm

Quoting kai:

Damn well said Daydreamer!



+1. I really DO need that "standing ovation" smiley! Great post Daydreamer. I really do not understand this ridiculous thread!

77.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:25 pm

Cheers guys
Sorry if I sounded a bit rude - it must be a pre-birthday syndrome :-S

78.       christine_usa
284 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:26 pm

+1 Daydreamer

You spoke my mind so eloquently!

79.       Aslan
1070 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:31 pm

I got this splendid idea from this thread! ...from now on I will keep a card index so I will never forget from which nationality the best lovers are...and o´boy, do I have much work to do from now on! I have to be scientific...and in order to not hold a nationality before one I did not try...I will have to try´em all!

Oh, came to think of it...a zillionaire might not be the answer after all! ...I can get all the fun I need in life just by taking responsibility of my card index!


...how many nationalities are there in the world at the present?

80.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:34 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

I don't get what this discussion is all about. How can you compare lovers on the basis of nationality? Were that possible there'd be a worldwide research done and the guys from the "bottom nations" would only dream of getting a partner.

Men are men, women are women! In every nationality there are good and bad lovers, just as there are good and bad people. True, we can discuss the culturally influenced Turkish "softness" and sweettalking which are typical of eastern regions, but will it provide us with the answers we're looking for? Do you think that choosing a guy from a particular country minimizes your chances of getting coned? I don't think so. Every relationship is an individual matter. I know girls who are happy with their Turkish boyfriends and those who were cheated on, just like I know those who are happy with their fellow-country men and those who are unhappy in such relationships.

I strongly feel this is not a matter of culture or nationality that faciliates or puts the relationship at risk. It is the people who are involved that make it a bliss or a cuse.

Sticking to stereotypes does more harm than good. If we assume that Turkish guys are players who go for western girls just to gain some experience before marrying a decent Turkish virgin would be unfair to both men and women as not all Turkish guys are like this, let alone all Turkish girls!

On the other hand, assuming that all Turks are passionate, delicate and sensitive creatures may end up in somebody's getting wrongdone by an individual who is not like this.

As far as I'm concerned, we all have our own minds and life experience to judge everybody that we are willing to start a relationship with. Regardless of nationality, religion or culture. Is that enough to stay out of trouble? Hardly so, but that's what life is about - nothing ventured, nothing gained!



Daydreamer, you are completely right. However, I understood the topic a little differently. Namely, what are the cultural differences in the ways men from different cultures express their love. And there can of course be even some contradicting messages there as well, but overall, i think we can get some sort of feeling about it. For example, many people had experiences with Turks from which they'd say that Turks like to tell sweet lies, others would say that Turks are reserved and don't like to show feelings. Someone from GB would said that Brits are straightforeward and not very romantic. I don't think that if you hear someting like that you're going to think - oh, so 100% of Brits aren't romantic, wow! I think we are smart enough to distinguish between cultural effects on people from individual characteristics.
I don't understand why people have such a hard time talking about the majority and someone always jumps in saying that it's not true because there are other cases. Just because there are decent men in Turkey doesn't mean that we can't say that there are much higher amounts of men in the touristic places who are sluts! When we talk about touristic places, we talk about touristic places, not absolutely ALL Turkish guys!
Why do people love Turkey so much? Because it is different in some ways then the other places they've been to. Does it mean that all of Turkey is different? No, but there is clearly a difference when you go there!

81.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:35 pm

Quoting Aslan:

I got this splendid idea from this thread! ...from now on I will keep a card index so I will never forget from which nationality the best lovers are...and o´boy, do I have much work to do from now on! I have to be scientific...and in order to not hold a nationality before one I did not try...I will have to try´em all!

Oh, came to think of it...a zillionaire might not be the answer after all! ...I can get all the fun I need in life just by taking responsibility of my card index!


...how many nationalities are there in the world at the present?



Hahahahahahaha! Well we were discussing earlier about awarding them Michelin style stars TT - what do you reckon? Can you handle the "research" side for us by yourself, and we will collate the data?

82.       Aslan
1070 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:36 pm

...hehe...why not? ...after all you are my friends!

83.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:37 pm

Quoting Aslan:

...hehe...why not? ...after all you are my friends!



Good girl! That's the spirit! Now, better go and have a lie down eh? Prepare yourself lol

84.       Aslan
1070 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:40 pm



85.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:41 pm

Sorry Catwoman - I hid your post with spam I don't fully agree with what you say here , but have but it back to the front again...

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Daydreamer:

I don't get what this discussion is all about. How can you compare lovers on the basis of nationality? Were that possible there'd be a worldwide research done and the guys from the "bottom nations" would only dream of getting a partner.

Men are men, women are women! In every nationality there are good and bad lovers, just as there are good and bad people. True, we can discuss the culturally influenced Turkish "softness" and sweettalking which are typical of eastern regions, but will it provide us with the answers we're looking for? Do you think that choosing a guy from a particular country minimizes your chances of getting coned? I don't think so. Every relationship is an individual matter. I know girls who are happy with their Turkish boyfriends and those who were cheated on, just like I know those who are happy with their fellow-country men and those who are unhappy in such relationships.

I strongly feel this is not a matter of culture or nationality that faciliates or puts the relationship at risk. It is the people who are involved that make it a bliss or a cuse.

Sticking to stereotypes does more harm than good. If we assume that Turkish guys are players who go for western girls just to gain some experience before marrying a decent Turkish virgin would be unfair to both men and women as not all Turkish guys are like this, let alone all Turkish girls!

On the other hand, assuming that all Turks are passionate, delicate and sensitive creatures may end up in somebody's getting wrongdone by an individual who is not like this.

As far as I'm concerned, we all have our own minds and life experience to judge everybody that we are willing to start a relationship with. Regardless of nationality, religion or culture. Is that enough to stay out of trouble? Hardly so, but that's what life is about - nothing ventured, nothing gained!



Daydreamer, you are completely right. However, I understood the topic a little differently. Namely, what are the cultural differences in the ways men from different cultures express their love. And there can of course be even some contradicting messages there as well, but overall, i think we can get some sort of feeling about it. For example, many people had experiences with Turks from which they'd say that Turks like to tell sweet lies, others would say that Turks are reserved and don't like to show feelings. Someone from GB would said that Brits are straightforeward and not very romantic. I don't think that if you hear someting like that you're going to think - oh, so 100% of Brits aren't romantic, wow! I think we are smart enough to distinguish between cultural effects on people from individual characteristics.
I don't understand why people have such a hard time talking about the majority and someone always jumps in saying that it's not true because there are other cases. Just because there are decent men in Turkey doesn't mean that we can't say that there are much higher amounts of men in the touristic places who are sluts! When we talk about touristic places, we talk about touristic places, not absolutely ALL Turkish guys!
Why do people love Turkey so much? Because it is different in some ways then the other places they've been to. Does it mean that all of Turkey is different? No, but there is clearly a difference when you go there!

86.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:48 pm

Quoting catwoman:


I think we are smart enough to distinguish between cultural effects on people from individual characteristics.
I don't understand why people have such a hard time talking about the majority and someone always jumps in saying that it's not true because there are other cases. Just because there are decent men in Turkey doesn't mean that we can't say that there are much higher amounts of men in the touristic places who are sluts! When we talk about touristic places, we talk about touristic places, not absolutely ALL Turkish guys!
Why do people love Turkey so much? Because it is different in some ways then the other places they've been to. Does it mean that all of Turkey is different? No, but there is clearly a difference when you go there!



All of the above is right, sure we tend to generalize while discussing nationwide issues . However, my point was to warn against such things as generalization. The trouble with it is that it may provoke someone to take a biased attitude because of the stereotypes. For example, a girl going out with a resort - waiter type might get too suspicious to let her see what he is really like.

Quoting catwoman:


I don't think that if you hear someting like that you're going to think - oh, so 100% of Brits aren't romantic, wow!


Thinking about it - no, definitely not, but let me tell you an anegdote. A Polish guy working in Germany as a gardener was asked by a German lady to fix her sink. "But I'm not a plumber" he said. ""I know, but you are a Pole" she replied.

If you asked her if she really believed that all Poles are plumbers, of course she'd say it is impossible. Still, because of the stereotypes she reacted this way. I abide by what I said, stereotypes are dangerous as they make us biased.

BTW, somebody is really ashamed because she forgot about somebody's birthday

87.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 09:04 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting catwoman:


I think we are smart enough to distinguish between cultural effects on people from individual characteristics.
I don't understand why people have such a hard time talking about the majority and someone always jumps in saying that it's not true because there are other cases. Just because there are decent men in Turkey doesn't mean that we can't say that there are much higher amounts of men in the touristic places who are sluts! When we talk about touristic places, we talk about touristic places, not absolutely ALL Turkish guys!
Why do people love Turkey so much? Because it is different in some ways then the other places they've been to. Does it mean that all of Turkey is different? No, but there is clearly a difference when you go there!



All of the above is right, sure we tend to generalize while discussing nationwide issues . However, my point was to warn against such things as generalization. The trouble with it is that it may provoke someone to take a biased attitude because of the stereotypes. For example, a girl going out with a resort - waiter type might get too suspicious to let her see what he is really like.

Quoting catwoman:


I don't think that if you hear someting like that you're going to think - oh, so 100% of Brits aren't romantic, wow!


Thinking about it - no, definitely not, but let me tell you an anegdote. A Polish guy working in Germany as a gardener was asked by a German lady to fix her sink. "But I'm not a plumber" he said. ""I know, but you are a Pole" she replied.

If you asked her if she really believed that all Poles are plumbers, of course she'd say it is impossible. Still, because of the stereotypes she reacted this way. I abide by what I said, stereotypes are dangerous as they make us biased.

BTW, somebody is really ashamed because she forgot about somebody's birthday



It is actually funny, because I'd also think that all guys know how to fix plumbing, especially Polish guys lol. Maybe becaue all the men in my family and neighborhood (back in Poland) know how to fix cars, plumbing, electricity... etc.
Yes, that German woman would know that NOT ALL Polish men know plumbing, but she must have also thought that the probability is high that he would know.

Yes, I'm definitely also against stereotyping. It can lead to racism and other types of hatred and discrimination.
Yes, it's important not to forget the big picture, but at the same time there are also some distinguishing characteristics among different nations and cultures.
A small proof of that is something called culture shock, which points out that there are cultural subtleties in which people grow and express themselves and which are distinctively different for different nations.

88.       Capoeira
575 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 09:06 pm

After reading this post and the number of responses, I have to ask. Why do we spend so much time talking about Turkish men/lovers/boys/husbands/boyfriends etc.?

Even I have got caught up in these threads giving my worthless 2 cents! lol

Maybe we should have "secret" index forum with passcodes required so we can all keep track! Judging by the 'personal' love messages that people are willing to post in the public forum for translations, surely some would LOVE to share all the dirty details!!!!!! LOOOOL As in the words of KeithL, "Not that I would know anything about that!" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Hope I'm not spoiling this thread or offending anybody! Just find it really comical that this topics comes up soooo often!

Oh...I know love day's over..but luv ya'll!!!!

89.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 09:18 pm

hahaha, yes! let's go back to the topic of Ataturk!

90.       kai
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 09:25 pm

Quoting Capoeira:

After reading this post and the number of responses, I have to ask. Why do we spend so much time talking about Turkish men/lovers/boys/husbands/boyfriends etc.?

Even I have got caught up in these threads giving my worthless 2 cents! lol

Maybe we should have "secret" index forum with passcodes required so we can all keep track! Judging by the 'personal' love messages that people are willing to post in the public forum for translations, surely some would LOVE to share all the dirty details!!!!!! LOOOOL As in the words of KeithL, "Not that I would know anything about that!" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Hope I'm not spoiling this thread or offending anybody! Just find it really comical that this topics comes up soooo often!

Oh...I know love day's over..but luv ya'll!!!!



lol @ capo.....love ya to hun!

91.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 09:31 pm

92.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 09:42 pm

Quoting Capoeira:

After reading this post and the number of responses, I have to ask. Why do we spend so much time talking about Turkish men/lovers/boys/husbands/boyfriends etc.?
Oh...I know love day's over..but luv ya'll!!!!



Ouh! I had a case of premature posting then ! Anyway, i would like to "go out on a limb" here and hazard a guess Hmmmmm, why do we spend so much time talking about Turkish boys/lovers/blah blah? Erm.....perhaps we should HONESTLY ask most people why they came to this site in the first place?

With the possible exception of Joey (but who knows ) and Bod (again...but who knows?!) I think most of the non-Turkish members had/have some sort of Turkish love interest .

Love you too !
(However, I would like to clarify that you are NOT my love interest!!! lol )

93.       Capoeira
575 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 09:52 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Love you too !
(However, I would like to clarify that you are NOT my love interest!!! lol )

THANK GOD!!! We would make the worst couple, way to much debating and the arguments, Lord help us!!!!! Not to mention you are of the wrong gender, for my personal tastes. But, who notices those small details these days? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

94.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 09:53 pm

95.       Ederim
37 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 10:01 pm

I agree with turkish men in Turkey, specially ones with no job or job with bad pay, can seem charming. Although, I have meet some guys that seems real nice. I am from Puerto Rico and I think most turkish are like macho types... woman faithful and them not. But I have meet several, not really my lovers, put they are like latin men. I think they are also good in sex and in charms. I LIke turkish men ..so far.

96.       vasilia
48 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 10:46 pm

I am a little biased because I had a bad experience with a Turkish man. He lied, he lied about his age and his entire life basically. He said he was 35 but he was actually 47 then one night when he was on the webcam (he looked 35 so I didn't catch onto that right away.hell, I didn't even care about the age, I was just angry because he lied. I am a lot younger and I think he thought I was naive or something) anyway, he's on the webcam and an adorable little girl comes running out of the back crying, and I asked who that was, and he says 'my daughter'. Come to find out he had a son too.. AND A WIFE! whom one night found my cell phone number on his phone and called me. It was absolutely horrible, and I couldn't understand what she said but I felt like the worst person in the world. My heart was broken but It's gradually mending..

I know all of them are not like that. I wish I had met a honest one. They are pretty charming ... and personally I find them very handsome

97.       aenigma x
0 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 10:52 pm

I am so sorry for you, but I think it is a hazard of the MSN Era, rather than a particular nationality. In the UK it was reported recently that the highest MSN Dating group was the "Married but looking for fun" category...

98.       vasilia
48 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:04 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

I am so sorry for you, but I think it is a hazard of the MSN Era, rather than a particular nationality. In the UK it was reported recently that the highest MSN Dating group was the "Married but looking for fun" category...



[thank you ] and exactly, believe me in the USA its just as bad. I didn't think it had to do with the nationality either.. on AOL they have a 'married and looking' chat too. I don't really see the point in getting married then turning around and doing that :/

99.       qdemir
813 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:40 pm

Quote:

I joined EU 3 times by 3 different European men sweetie



Turkisgirll,
You have 22 (EU members) to go then. Go for the full access to EU. We are backing you up.

100.       juliacernat
424 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:45 pm



"Turkisgirll,
You have 22 (EU members) to go then. Go for the full access to EU. We are backing you up."


...and another 2 from 2007, since Romania and Bulgaria will officially become EU members

101.       Aslan
1070 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:46 pm

Quoting turkishgirll:

I joined EU 3 times by 3 different European men sweetie Now I am with an American man as I told before... I have nothing to feel jealous about cause that's my personal choice not to be with a Turkish men. Happy European Union celebrations to you with Turkish men then




...oh yes...that is my spirit!

102.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:48 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Turkisgirll,
You have 22 (EU members) to go then. Go for the full access to EU. We are backing you up.



Only one from each country? And how about potential EU-member-countries? If that's also only one, I ran out of Turkish contestants....

103.       qdemir
813 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:49 pm

where are you from, Aslan?

104.       Aslan
1070 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:51 pm

...I am from Sweden...why?

105.       qdemir
813 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:52 pm

Quote:

Only one from each country? And how about potential EU-member-countries? If that's also only one, I ran out of Turkish contestants....



What's your score, Trudy

106.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:56 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

Only one from each country? And how about potential EU-member-countries? If that's also only one, I ran out of Turkish contestants....



What's your score, Trudy



Why are you asking, qdemir? :-S

107.       qdemir
813 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:56 pm

Quote:

I am from Sweden...why?



a member state.

108.       qdemir
813 posts
 12 Nov 2006 Sun 11:58 pm

Quote:

I ran out of Turkish contestants....



That's why

109.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 12:01 am

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

I ran out of Turkish contestants....



That's why



Only if I am allowed to have just one boyfriend from each country! If I can have more than..... My Turkish experience was not that good.... Do you know somebody to get the score positive again?

110.       kissturk
130 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 12:07 am

sorry, just got add my bit too .

I met my (X HUSBAND in england, we got married in Turkey, he already had his documents for the UK so that wasnt an issue, he then decided that one night stands would be acceptable, but i must leave the house, baring in mind i was the main bread winner (nooo sorry, i supported us and our 2 children, while he wandered round otwn with mates sitting in coffee houses whilst i paid a nanny!!!) believe had it been like that in the beginning i would never have gone to turkey to get married, so now approaching are 5 years anniversyary were divorced.thats with out mentioning the abuse, alcohol, violence i had to put up with towards the end!

However........ i love turks to pieces, i have a lot of turkish friends over here and in Turkey... i know that till i find/fall in love with mr right again (must be turk In the mean-time i wouldnt even consider dating an english guy...Theres bad a good guys /girls out there like robyn said..I dont like to judge as a whole we are all individuals... I LOVE YOU TURKEY )))

111.       qdemir
813 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 12:07 am

Quote:

My Turkish experience was not that good....



Never mind. It doesn't count as Turkey isn't a member state and is unlikely to join. However for a fair contest you should pick up just one out of every basket.

112.       ramayan
2633 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 01:15 am

Quoting turkishgirll:

Quoting ramayan:

ouh yes not at all...i just wanted to help u..its a really big problem after having a boyfriend and as a turkishgirl...hehehe ehh if u r so scientific person u would do it and create ur own theory if u r coward nobody can help u...im sure u lost that turkish guy bcos of this hahahah....he must have been so happy now



Ramayan, make him happier if you want. I will give his contact number to you!!!



ouh dear im sorry i cant help him..im straight...but how come u couldnt help him? and im now curious about ur other boyfriends too...hehe do they need help from other guys? hahahah im scared

i couldnt get anythıng from thıs thread....explain things better ...or take notes whıle studyıng about differancies of turkish boyfriends....i told u its best to have two one turkish one foreigner boyfriend...or more if u can hehe and when u solve this...let us all know..we ll be very happy to learn about this complicated subject

thanks

113.       CANLI
5084 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:03 am

İ must say,after reading all of THİS,i am now more curious about TURKİSH GİRLS !!!

Hmmm,aren't there any rolling eyes smily here ?!

114.       Capoeira
575 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 05:47 am

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

I joined EU 3 times by 3 different European men sweetie



Turkisgirll,
You have 22 (EU members) to go then. Go for the full access to EU. We are backing you up.



Why stop with the EU? I mean there are 50 states in my country, and then you could do...say... MERCOSUR! We would all LOVE to read your index notes after your little experiment is done.

115.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 07:25 am

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

My Turkish experience was not that good....



Never mind. It doesn't count as Turkey isn't a member state and is unlikely to join. However for a fair contest you should pick up just one out of every basket.



Well, for now I think I'll stop with the international stuff. I'll keep it home sweet home I think.

116.       Mary83
178 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 01:10 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

in turkey...marmaris partiucally....and u acnnot say that it doesnt happen in turkey becoz turkey and the uk have 1 of the highest ratings of rape in the world



I don't know the rate in England. However it isn't that high in Turkey. On what grounds and sources are you giving that rate in Turkey?



qdemir, why are you so ferociously denying these things??? I'd like to see YOUR sources on which you base your opinions!
it's a known fact that rape and infidelity is rampant in Turkey, especially in the touristic locations.
it's enough to get Turkish newspapers (not even magazines) to watch porn over there, so go figure how they behave. a lot of those guys are perverts who got used to double standards and then when western women visit and do sleep around, they judge them and have no respect for them.

I hate the term "easy girl". since when sleeping around is a problem for you guys? guys are the biggest sluts on the earth, but for some reason I haven't heard the term "an easy guy" used in the same negative way as it is for the women. god!! I'm so sick of the double standards... what is really so negative about "easy girls" is that they are free and men can't stand that, well.. a little more complicated then that, but whatever. I'm not talking here about women who sleep around for the sake of improving their self-esteem by feeling attractive to some slutty dude, but women who are free and choose who they sleep with and sleep who they want to sleep with!

I say - western women, go to Turkey, use and dump those bastards! (sure, some are not bastards and those deserve respect).

I can't stand women who embrace the idea that they are allowed less then men (in order to think that they are "good girls" or to get respect by obediently following the rules made by their male dominant society they live in...), and who let guys control their lifes and tell them what they should or shouldn't do.



+100000000!!!!!

117.       Mary83
178 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 01:32 pm

Merhaba Turkishgirll!
I think that the girls here on TC might agree with me that turkish men are not like the other men.They talk sweet, are kind, caring, act like gentlemen and don't feel shy when expressing their feelings,even in love poems.. so we easily fell in love with them and think they are so close to the perfect man or the man of our dreams.
Unfortunately there is a big BUT..some of them might be honest or just big liars, as i personally met and you get your heart broken..BUT "every forest has its own dryness",so this is what i want to believe now, you can find good and bad people everywhere and maybe "my luck"was to meet one of the bad ones ..
Im not judging anyone here and also not putting all the turkish men in the same boat!This is my opinion based on my personal experience,so my advice to all the girls in love/having a relationship with a turkish man is this: please be careful, open your eyes, think not only with your heart but mostly with your brain because as far as i know there are no pills to heal a broken heart!!

Take care,
Maria

118.       aenigma x
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 01:49 pm

Quoting Mary83:

Merhaba Turkishgirll!
I think that the girls here on TC might agree with me that turkish men are not like the other men.They talk sweet, are kind, caring, act like gentlemen and don't feel shy when expressing their feelings,even in love poems.. so we easily fell in love with them and think they are so close to the perfect man or the man of our dreams.
Unfortunately there is a big BUT..they might be honest or just big liars, as i personally met and you get your heart broken..BUT "every forest has its own dryness",so this is what i want to believe now, you can find good and bad people everywhere and maybe "my luck"was to meet one of the bad ones ..
Im not judging anyone here and also not putting all the turkish men in the same boat!This is my opinion based on my personal experience,so my advice to all the girls in love/having a relationship with a turkish man is this: please be careful, open your eyes, think not only with your heart but mostly with your brain because as far as i know there are no pills to heal a broken heart!!

Take care,
Maria



Well no, you are not judging anyone, but you ARE generalising ! Good advice, but it should be taken with ALL nationalities - why single out Turkish men?

119.       Mary83
178 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 02:19 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Mary83:

Merhaba Turkishgirll!
I think that the girls here on TC might agree with me that turkish men are not like the other men.They talk sweet, are kind, caring, act like gentlemen and don't feel shy when expressing their feelings,even in love poems.. so we easily fell in love with them and think they are so close to the perfect man or the man of our dreams.
Unfortunately there is a big BUT..they might be honest or just big liars, as i personally met and you get your heart broken..BUT "every forest has its own dryness",so this is what i want to believe now, you can find good and bad people everywhere and maybe "my luck"was to meet one of the bad ones ..
Im not judging anyone here and also not putting all the turkish men in the same boat!This is my opinion based on my personal experience,so my advice to all the girls in love/having a relationship with a turkish man is this: please be careful, open your eyes, think not only with your heart but mostly with your brain because as far as i know there are no pills to heal a broken heart!!

Take care,
Maria



Well no, you are not judging anyone, but you ARE generalising ! Good advice, but it should be taken with ALL nationalities - why single out Turkish men?


Actually i am not generalizing at all, if you would have read some other topics that i wrote you might have thought differently now..If i was to generalize about turkish men, i wouldn't be here today on TC, i would have deleted my account some while ago and never again spoken to turkish people..My advice was referring to turkish men because i had a relationship with a turkish man and because i can only talk about things that i know and i have been through Anyway,i love Turkiye,the language, the people, culture,everything and they have a special place in my heart
Bytheway, if anyone is in a relationship with a romanian guy, please let me now, maybe i can help with some advices!!

Maria

120.       susie k
1330 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 02:42 pm

121.       kai
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:00 pm

Quoting susie k:

I'm so sorry for you. This must have been awful, I think it's everyones knightmare. I know for a fact that this goes on! My husband's friends were shocked when I said to him that I wouldn't stand for any of that, and that I would be off in a flash if he tried it! Luckily my husband isn't like that, but I know a few Turks that are, they are the ones who told Kadir to do this but he refused and this is when I found out that it had been encouraged.
They used to call him at all hours and he would tell him to f**k off in the end he lost a few friends and I was looked at like I was trash by them! It took about 3 months before they got the message and Kadir decieded that he would rather have me than 10000 of them! I know that I am lucky, I hope your next love is more worthy of you.



Awwww it's a shame that all men are not like your Kadir .....well done hun .....now where to find one myself? lol....only joking - I already have someone in mind as you know

122.       susie k
1330 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:04 pm

123.       kai
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:10 pm

Quote:

Quoting susie k:


Awwww it's a shame that all men are not like your Kadir .....well done hun .....now where to find one myself? lol....only joking - I already have someone in mind as you know



Have you got him yet!?



No hun .....but I can't wait until Christmas

124.       susie k
1330 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:12 pm

125.       kai
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:16 pm

Quote:

Quoting susie k:

Quoting kai:

Quoting susie k:


Awwww it's a shame that all men are not like your Kadir .....well done hun .....now where to find one myself? lol....only joking - I already have someone in mind as you know



Have you got him yet!?



No hun .....but I can't wait until Christmas



You need to organise something like a night out! When's your plaster coming off? You could organise a celebration night for that!!!??!!



My plaster is already off (AT LAST!) but not to worry....the next celebration is when he finally comes over!

126.       susie k
1330 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:18 pm

127.       kai
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:21 pm

Quoting susie k:

Quoting Rain:



aiyooo u guys still talkng about same shit? Turkish man turkish man turkish man yafff is there anytng special? really im gonna make a website welcome to TURKISH MAN....really tha world is gonna be like hell..whn i read all those full of shit... anywy.. hope u guys enjoy with turkish man over there.. 1 night stand how many turkish man F.... girls in resort or how...wich position..(i thnk u guys gonna put webcam to watch them also ..) with this brain no 1 in this website can get smthin..sorry only translte nthng else...

in Myopinion people have to live with it..thn only can get and learn smthin...everybody love...but chnge man/women like chnge cloths.. people can say im dating how nice fo them rght?... but everyboydy respct coz of their life style.. really strange...or i got no brain to understnd wht people thnkng in their mind..
anywy i dont give a F.. fo this life style.. u guys enjoy ..
tata...



THE ONLY TURK I'VE BEEN NEAR IS MY HUSBAND AND KAIS FELLA ISN'T TURKISH SO EITHER CAN IT, OR READ UP ON US FIRST!!!!!

Also we are not all as crude as you some things are private, maybe you've slept with loads of men but that doesn't mean we are all like you.



You tell him hun!

128.       susie k
1330 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:23 pm

129.       susie k
1330 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:26 pm

130.       ramayan
2633 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:27 pm

Quoting Rain:



aiyooo u guys still talkng about same shit? .whn i read all those full of shit... anywy.. hope u guys enjoy with turkish man over there.. 1 night stand how many turkish man F.... girls in resort or how...wich position




hey our kind guy...i dont like this subject but ur way of saying ''hi'' is the worst thing i have ever seen in this site....i think you should moderate urself...or the moderators should moderate you...there is smthing wrong here

131.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:30 pm

Quoting ramayan:

Quoting Rain:



aiyooo u guys still talkng about same shit? .whn i read all those full of shit... anywy.. hope u guys enjoy with turkish man over there.. 1 night stand how many turkish man F.... girls in resort or how...wich position




hey our kind guy...i dont like this subject but ur way of saying ''hi'' is the worst thing i have ever seen in this site....i think you should moderate urself...or the moderators should moderate you...there is smthing wrong here



Ramayan, I think the whole fo TC will be behind you on this one!

132.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:30 pm

Quoting ramayan:

Quoting Rain:



aiyooo u guys still talkng about same shit? .whn i read all those full of shit... anywy.. hope u guys enjoy with turkish man over there.. 1 night stand how many turkish man F.... girls in resort or how...wich position




hey our kind guy...i dont like this subject but ur way of saying ''hi'' is the worst thing i have ever seen in this site....i think you should moderate urself...or the moderators should moderate you...there is smthing wrong here



Ramayan, I think the whole of TC will be behind you on this one!

133.       Rain
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:31 pm

Quoting ramayan:

Quoting Rain:



aiyooo u guys still talkng about same shit? .whn i read all those full of shit... anywy.. hope u guys enjoy with turkish man over there.. 1 night stand how many turkish man F.... girls in resort or how...wich position




hey our kind guy...i dont like this subject but ur way of saying ''hi'' is the worst thing i have ever seen in this site....i think you should moderate urself...or the moderators should moderate you...there is smthing wrong here



Be a man.... not a lady... i jst can say tht.. nothng else dont teach me..coz whtvr u try to explain to me..tht only wht i understnd thts it..

134.       susie k
1330 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:31 pm

135.       Rain
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:33 pm

Quoting susie k:

Just seen that rain is a man! Obviously he is alone thats why all the bitter sniping!




im am alone?

136.       Rain
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 04:41 pm

Quote:

Quote:


Ok good point! I understand why you added that now, I don't usually put negative comments in... and I certainly never have to my knowledge discussed anything private about my romantic life, it's too personal. I do agree with you that some members do go too far.




i dont like 2 face in front of people..its me rain here...whtvr i wanna say sure ll say ..i wont take care mywords or ll be elegant coz some sexy girls around..no..i ll be the same rain even presednt doughter here..this s ll make me special.. but i see tht many people here..if some 1 say smtng all is agree..no 1 can dare to say smtng..but with their heart..nop fo me.. people don like me...i know who i am.. if im alone i ll go out fo find a sexy gal now..meaning of life not only GAL OR MAN.. can be happy even small thngs if ya know how to be happy.. But who is wait miracle from the man or women..

137.       Ivy-youzi
23 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 05:14 pm

In a word, is turkish man good or bad? lol

138.       Rain
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 05:21 pm

Quoting Ivy-youzi:

In a word, is turkish man good or bad? lol



什么是... 一部分的瓷您来自? 忧虑土耳其人顺便说一句不是绅士除非您是坏。我的妻子汉语并且我是土耳其我们很愉快。

139.       Ivy-youzi
23 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 05:28 pm

Quoting Rain:

Quoting Ivy-youzi:

In a word, is turkish man good or bad? lol



什么是... 一部分的瓷您来自? 忧虑土耳其人顺便说一句不是绅士除非您是坏。我的妻子汉语并且我是土耳其我们很愉快。



Merhaba, Rain,
but what do you mean?
lol
you are turkish man and your wife is Chinese?really?

I have to go to bed now, see you later
take care

140.       Rain
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 05:29 pm

yea but im not good in chinese worse.. wich part of china u come from i said..

141.       ramayan
2633 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 05:31 pm

Quoting Rain:

Quoting ramayan:

Quoting Rain:


aiyooo u guys still talkng about same shit? .whn i read all those full of shit... anywy.. hope u guys enjoy with turkish man over there.. 1 night stand how many turkish man F.... girls in resort or how...wich position

hey our kind guy...i dont like this subject but ur way of saying ''hi'' is the worst thing i have ever seen in this site....i think you should moderate urself...or the moderators should moderate you...there is smthing wrong here

Be a man.... not a lady... i jst can say tht.. nothng else dont teach me..coz whtvr u try to explain to me..tht only wht i understnd thts it..



if being a man means to be like YOU, i would prefer to be born as a women.....and as i said bfor u should definately be TAMED....

i wish u could build ur mind too and learn how to be kind while you are building ur body

142.       Ivy-youzi
23 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 05:33 pm

Quoting Rain:

yea but im not good in chinese worse.. wich part of china u come from i said..



so nice, I am in Shanghai now, but my hometown is in another province, called Anhui, I guess you don't know
and your wife?

143.       Rain
0 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 05:36 pm

Quoting Ivy-youzi:

Quoting Rain:

yea but im not good in chinese worse.. wich part of china u come from i said..



so nice, I am in Shanghai now, but my hometown is in another province, called Anhui, I guess you don't know
and your wife?



very nice...yep i dunno..but she is.

144.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 06:27 pm

Quoting Rain:

But i really start to bor to listen same sht all the time in this website..



Considering your language and your attribution to other members of this site, I would say: if you are so bored with us, what are you doing here? Anyone forcing you to post?

BTW, could you write English, instead of this awful SMS-stuff?

145.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 06:38 pm

You have been gone for awhile, Rain. Where have you been?

146.       jackieeuk
72 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 07:47 pm

where are the moderators , this needs addressing . we have opinions without swearing and attacking in this manner

Kind regards

Jackie

xx

147.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 08:20 pm

ATTENTION!!!

Well, well... This is a forum and people are free of their comments and their ideas and their judgements without disturbing the others. RAIN, you are not supposed to judge any subject. Just like YOU SAID some people like watching TV on the sofa, some people like watching it sitting on the chair etc... You cannot judge the people because of the subjects they talk about or because of the ideas they share. You are not the person to do that... There is freedom of speech. You might like this subject or not but you HAVE TO be respectful to everybody who is writing or reading here. Moreover you don't have to write on a forum whose subject you don't like.DO NOT cause disturbance here. Respect other people. We don't have to listen to your crap here. Like it or leave it man!
One more thing... You had better watch your language. What is this "I f*** this and I f*** that" attitude? What are you trying to prove and to whom?
I agree with one of the friends here that you have a terrible way of English writing, SMS style as that person also stated. You say you are Turkish and since I am Turkish as well, we Turks all know what kind of people use this kind of language. The losers, the ones who try to be cool by sounding so slang, the street wisers... Are you one of them then? I am an English literature student and it is very annoying from my part to see a language being messed!!!!!

148.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 08:56 pm

Quoting jackieeuk:

where are the moderators , this needs addressing . we have opinions without swearing and attacking in this manner

Kind regards

Jackie

xx



I would like to ask everybody to take responsibility for what's going on in the forums. You are doing a great job with reminding people how to behave, but as far as moderators are concerned, please understand that nobody can be here 24hrs a day and monitor everything that is happening, so it's very helpful if you send us a private message with a link to the thread that needs to be looked at. Thank you so much!

149.       CANLI
5084 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 01:28 am

Quoting turkishgirll:

ATTENTION!!!

Well, well... This is a forum and people are free of their comments and their ideas and their judgements without disturbing the others.



surprisingly agreeing with you turkishgirl on this issue!

İ wasn't going to share in this,cause as we all know,that is the ZİLLİON time that we are talking about Turkish men !
But,that was the first time we have a turkish female opinion about this,
Which is by the way very interesting !

But still talking about it didn't brought anything new in that issue,but it really raise so many questions in my mind.

Those questions will consider Turkish men too,but in another way .

You,i mean Turkish people passing through very important phase of time.

İ am here talking about my opinion,and from the way i see things,and i hope i don't offend anyone.

Neyse,
As i was saying,you are in between 2 cultures,and 2 principles,and totally 2 different styles of life.

Some people welcome the changes very much,and abandoned all the traditions,and the principles they have been raised upon it,considering it nonsense and some kind of ignorance,ALL OF THEM.

Others refusing the changes totally,and want to live as they have been raised,and their parents been living too,and see those changes immoral too !

Others,picking from both sides,try to judge and pick the useful from the new wind,and keep the good traditions from the old times,and beeing proud about those times too,but seeing that time has came,and some changes has to be made.

As my opinion,its very obvious to me what would've i picked !

But,after reading this thread,and the posts,i find myself need to ask you,

What way would you prefer ?

Notice that any changes won't only consider Turkish men,but Turkish women as well.
So to what extent do you accept this changes to your women ?
Your sisters,your lover,your wife,and your daughters ?!

İs the Western style,in the way turkishgirll has posted before agreeable to you ?!
You really approve ?!

And that is what you pick from ALL the Western style life ?!

And btw,turkishgirll,i guess what makes Turkish men are so different,is exactly what wasn't agreeable with you to some extent,and that is exactly what attracted the Western women to them .

Just my opinion !

150.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 09:20 am

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting turkishgirll:

ATTENTION!!!

Well, well... This is a forum and people are free of their comments and their ideas and their judgements without disturbing the others.



surprisingly agreeing with you turkishgirl on this issue!

İ wasn't going to share in this,cause as we all know,that is the ZİLLİON time that we are talking about Turkish men !
But,that was the first time we have a turkish female opinion about this,
Which is by the way very interesting !

But still talking about it didn't brought anything new in that issue,but it really raise so many questions in my mind.

Those questions will consider Turkish men too,but in another way .

You,i mean Turkish people passing through very important phase of time.

İ am here talking about my opinion,and from the way i see things,and i hope i don't offend anyone.

Neyse,
As i was saying,you are in between 2 cultures,and 2 principles,and totally 2 different styles of life.

Some people welcome the changes very much,and abandoned all the traditions,and the principles they have been raised upon it,considering it nonsense and some kind of ignorance,ALL OF THEM.

Others refusing the changes totally,and want to live as they have been raised,and their parents been living too,and see those changes immoral too !

Others,picking from both sides,try to judge and pick the useful from the new wind,and keep the good traditions from the old times,and beeing proud about those times too,but seeing that time has came,and some changes has to be made.

As my opinion,its very obvious to me what would've i picked !

But,after reading this thread,and the posts,i find myself need to ask you,

What way would you prefer ?

Notice that any changes won't only consider Turkish men,but Turkish women as well.
So to what extent do you accept this changes to your women ?
Your sisters,your lover,your wife,and your daughters ?!

İs the Western style,in the way turkishgirll has posted before agreeable to you ?!
You really approve ?!

And that is what you pick from ALL the Western style life ?!

And btw,turkishgirll,i guess what makes Turkish men are so different,is exactly what wasn't agreeable with you to some extent,and that is exactly what attracted the Western women to them .

Just my opinion !



Hi CANLI,

I am new to this page so I didn't check all the posts that were written, I became a member like 3-4 days ago indeed. And this was my first day post. So I had no idea what people discussed about Turkish men but I didn't simply ask about Turkish men indeed, I asked about Turkish lovers and what made them special to you guys. But I think most of them are ladies who have Turkish lovers here.
By the way, that's right. The characters are different in everyone but what I was asking about was not the character or the nationality or the education. Everybody knwos the fact that everybody's character is different and unique to themselves. But culture and traditions play a big deal on the character. That was the part I was wondering. What kind of reflections of culture or tradition fell on your lover made it special to you? For example Scandinavians are known for their coldness in the character all around the world -due to the cultural part as well as weather conditions- and Mediterreneans are known as hot-blooded, talkative etc... These don't make everybody in this way but then as I said before there are some certain characteristics of every nation what makes them different. So take my post in that aspect dudes! It was always misunderstod so far, some people thought I was showing off with what I had etc... But then I realized the fact that to get to know new people and have them be in your private life as you beloved ones... You catch up some certain traits of their cultural and national part.
And coming to the subject which CANLI started, some people accept the cultural and traditions totally, some do reject all of them and some try to balance it.
I personally try to balance the cultural and traditional part of me. But some traditions are just not my cup of tea so I just omit them from my life.
So up to that point whereas my cultural and traditional part is being appreciated, I am also criticized harshly because of the certain traditions I omit and disagree to obey. That's me thou.
"And that is what you pick from ALL the Western style life ?!" That's the question I didn't understand thou? What do you mean by that? It isn't simply love affair part that that's Western style in me (Although I don't find it right to call it Western style, it is just my personal choices and style)

151.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 09:47 am

Quote:

LoL how ego you are? who s gonna be cool? since im a member of this website mylanguage never change..dont show of wht the f have ya done with tha mens over there...respct other turkish ladies oke? i dont care wht tha hell ya talkng about urcharacter but in here many people wanna learn about turkey and turkish people..u make urslf suck thts it..

i no need attetion from any 1 here..But u need thts why u post here and show of wht the f u have done with mens..this is show how cheap you are..i come from street i learn this f languange from yahoo messeger myslf u went school we can see who is tha clever..so sht tha f up...if im loser why u talkng to me dumb idiot.. dont talk full of shit..go learn how to cook bfre open some post..(by tha way 50cent snoop dogy many of singer Around the world they are loser..coz they also not watch their mouth..)sucks...

if people need respct i ll be gentleman..but if the people talkng full of shit i ll be rain and ll be very heavy..
ta ta




What has it got to do with ego? I am not trying to show off, I didn't give you details about what kind of relationship I had with my previous experiences, nor I showed off about what they bought me etc... etc... So you had better go to an optician and have your eyes checked (or I would rather go to a neurologist and have my brain checked if I were in your shoes ) Either you misread or misanalyze certain things here and I do believe it has something to do with your education and instead of correcting yourself with that part of you are insistent on your illeterate part, even kind of proud about it. So I pity you.
Right, there are people who would like to learn about Turkey and Turkish culture and their eyes are free, let them reas whatever they want. They can read this post if they want or can simply skip it and pass to the next post. It is their business. There are lots of posts and lots of different subject on this forum.
You know what? I tell you what... I think you are desperately in need of attention. That's why you are opposing with everyone, that's why you are creating an atmosphere of the opposition. "..(by tha way 50cent snoop dogy many of singer Around the world they are loser..coz they also not watch their mouth..)" Look at whom you take yourself as role figures. The singer who use slang language. Why do they use slang language in their songs? Just to attract attention because it is an unusual style. I believe that's exactly what you are doing here. Simply immitating them, playing the parrot of your ideal figures. Do you think we know less slang words than you know? There are many native English speaking people on this page. Do you think we are less smart than you are? You would be cheating yourself that's what you believe.
Look at the language and see who is being cheap. You are so rude as to call someone female (as dumb or as idiot) I don't have to prove my intelligence to you, I am having certain quality of education and I am happy with that.
We have not seen your gentleman part yet, Rain. I hope we are so lucky as to be honoured(!) by it some day. You may want to shock us all someday with a proper way of writing, who knows? Oh, but be careful, when you are trying to be rain and rain heavy, don't turn into flood and do not drown yourself in it. (Keskin sirke küpüne zarar hesabı
Oh, before I forgot I already know how to cook. If you want to exchange recipes you are welcome.

152.       geeta
0 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 09:49 am

Quoting CANLI:

Some people welcome the changes very much,and abandoned all the traditions,and the principles they have been raised upon it,considering it nonsense and some kind of ignorance,ALL OF THEM.

Others refusing the changes totally,and want to live as they have been raised,and their parents been living too,and see those changes immoral too !

Others,picking from both sides,try to judge and pick the useful from the new wind,and keep the good traditions from the old times,and beeing proud about those times too,but seeing that time has came,and some changes has to be made.



My experience … I balance or rather try to balance both cultures. My husband is a total non believer. He never went to mosque, eats pork regularly and don’t follow Ramadan at all. People talk about you from both sides. If I agree with him then I am not a ‘loyal Muslim wife’ because I don’t encourage him to follow common Muslim rules and if I don’t agree with him still I am not a ‘loyal Muslim wife’ because I am not supporting him. Both the ways people talk. So me and my husband decided that we will live as we want to. I do pray my Hindu Gods in our home. I myself bought a copy of Quran which was not there earlier. He never prays but I do. He stopped eating beef for me. It all depends on the nature.
I don’t want to talk about Turkish men in particular as everyone has good as well as bad sides. NO ONE IS AND CAN EVER BE PERFECT. It’s not culture it’s a human nature which has to be blamed. And oh there is no cure for human nature also isn’t it? A person from a first world country might be as greedy as from the third world country. Rich or poor makes no sense when it comes to greed. My husband is also from southeastern Turkey. He is orphan and was damn poor once but now with his own belief and efforts he can support our (large) family.

Regards
Geeta

153.       jackieeuk
72 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 10:54 am

Quote:



My experience … I balance or rather try to balance both cultures. My husband is a total non believer. He never went to mosque, eats pork regularly and don’t follow Ramadan at all. People talk about you from both sides. If I agree with him then I am not a ‘loyal Muslim wife’ because I don’t encourage him to follow common Muslim rules and if I don’t agree with him still I am not a ‘loyal Muslim wife’ because I am not supporting him. Both the ways people talk. So me and my husband decided that we will live as we want to. I do pray my Hindu Gods in our home. I myself bought a copy of Quran which was not there earlier. He never prays but I do. He stopped eating beef for me. It all depends on the nature.
I don’t want to talk about Turkish men in particular as everyone has good as well as bad sides. NO ONE IS AND CAN EVER BE PERFECT. It’s not culture it’s a human nature which has to be blamed. And oh there is no cure for human nature also isn’t it? A person from a first world country might be as greedy as from the third world country. Rich or poor makes no sense when it comes to greed. My husband is also from southeastern Turkey. He is orphan and was damn poor once but now with his own belief and efforts he can support our (large) family.

Regards
Geeta



What a lovely message Geeta and if ONLY we could all be perfect !

Kind Regards
Jackie
xx

154.       ramayan
2633 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 12:34 pm

Quote:

rain


you are sick...i dunno why nobody does anything to this sick person....
you cannot insult anybody here..its ridiculous

sen hastamısın kardesim niye insanlara hakaret ediyorsun...

155.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 12:39 pm

Quote:

Quoting jackieeuk:



My experience … I balance or rather try to balance both cultures. My husband is a total non believer. He never went to mosque, eats pork regularly and don’t follow Ramadan at all. People talk about you from both sides. If I agree with him then I am not a ‘loyal Muslim wife’ because I don’t encourage him to follow common Muslim rules and if I don’t agree with him still I am not a ‘loyal Muslim wife’ because I am not supporting him. Both the ways people talk. So me and my husband decided that we will live as we want to. I do pray my Hindu Gods in our home. I myself bought a copy of Quran which was not there earlier. He never prays but I do. He stopped eating beef for me. It all depends on the nature.
I don’t want to talk about Turkish men in particular as everyone has good as well as bad sides. NO ONE IS AND CAN EVER BE PERFECT. It’s not culture it’s a human nature which has to be blamed. And oh there is no cure for human nature also isn’t it? A person from a first world country might be as greedy as from the third world country. Rich or poor makes no sense when it comes to greed. My husband is also from southeastern Turkey. He is orphan and was damn poor once but now with his own belief and efforts he can support our (large) family.

Regards
Geeta



What a lovely message Geeta and if ONLY we could all be perfect !

Kind Regards
Jackie
xx



+100000000000000000000 such wise words

156.       geeta
0 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 12:42 pm

Cool it off ppl!
Relax calm down !!!!!
is there any smiley for it?

Ok here I will use

157.       geeta
0 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 12:43 pm

Quoting robyn :


+100000000000000000000 such wise words



thank you thank you

Well all those words have come from experience

158.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 12:51 pm

Quoting susie k:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Capoeira:

After reading this post and the number of responses, I have to ask. Why do we spend so much time talking about Turkish men/lovers/boys/husbands/boyfriends etc.?
Oh...I know love day's over..but luv ya'll!!!!



Ouh! I had a case of premature posting then ! Anyway, i would like to "go out on a limb" here and hazard a guess Hmmmmm, why do we spend so much time talking about Turkish boys/lovers/blah blah? Erm.....perhaps we should HONESTLY ask most people why they came to this site in the first place?

With the possible exception of Joey (but who knows ) and Bod (again...but who knows?!) I think most of the non-Turkish members had/have some sort of Turkish love interest .

Love you too !
(However, I would like to clarify that you are NOT my love interest!!! lol )





Guilty as charged!!!



count me in on that too

159.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 12:54 pm

Dear Rain;

we all know that, they are always discussing Turkish guys and people here, and i am not expecting of their discussing any other nationality as this place's name is "Turkish Language Class".

whey they discuss it always,

because as new members are coming this site, instead of searching the database of forums, they are asking new questions, so we are taking all conversations all from start... and this is normal too. and in every thread like that all the people is saying this is not completely from being Turkish or whatelse.

the problem is not the language you use, or it is a bit problem to understand you.
The problem is YOU here, and your trying to act as a smartass, that you know the best, you know everything and your ego about your cant standing to people's talking about Turkish men or culture. they can talk why does it bother you that much i dont understand. and you love to be dominant. you are like a child.

would you mind if i ask you to use more tolerant words and keep your mouth shut? you dont have to say anything about you dont like here if YOU dont want to create a mess here.

and one more advice from me to you; while watching your self in the mirror please watch yourself wholly, not only your muscles

160.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 12:58 pm

Quoting Mary83:

relationship with a turkish man

Maria



i rest my case

161.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 01:00 pm

Quoting susie k:

Quoting kissturk:

sorry, just got add my bit too .

I met my (X HUSBAND in england, we got married in Turkey, he already had his documents for the UK so that wasnt an issue, he then decided that one night stands would be acceptable, but i must leave the house, baring in mind i was the main bread winner (nooo sorry, i supported us and our 2 children, while he wandered round otwn with mates sitting in coffee houses whilst i paid a nanny!!!) believe had it been like that in the beginning i would never have gone to turkey to get married, so now approaching are 5 years anniversyary were divorced.thats with out mentioning the abuse, alcohol, violence i had to put up with towards the end!

However........ i love turks to pieces, i have a lot of turkish friends over here and in Turkey... i know that till i find/fall in love with mr right again (must be turk In the mean-time i wouldnt even consider dating an english guy...Theres bad a good guys /girls out there like robyn said..I dont like to judge as a whole we are all individuals... I LOVE YOU TURKEY )))





I'm so sorry for you. This must have been awful, I think it's everyones knightmare. I know for a fact that this goes on! My husband's friends were shocked when I said to him that I wouldn't stand for any of that, and that I would be off in a flash if he tried it! Luckily my husband isn't like that, but I know a few Turks that are, they are the ones who told Kadir to do this but he refused and this is when I found out that it had been encouraged.
They used to call him at all hours and he would tell him to f**k off in the end he lost a few friends and I was looked at like I was trash by them! It took about 3 months before they got the message and Kadir decieded that he would rather have me than 10000 of them! I know that I am lucky, I hope your next love is more worthy of you.



i know that I am expected to look for partners for my husbands cousin osman,despite the fact that osman is married..to okkes's other cousin.. in fact,all of his cousin's seem to use me as a dating agency for women..although they are mostly married
but this isn't all turkish men as i said before..theres always good eggs and bad eggs

162.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 01:01 pm

Quoting susie k:

Just seen that rain is a man! Obviously he is alone thats why all the bitter sniping!



actually susie hun..he is married

163.       Mary83
178 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 01:13 pm

Quoting robyn :

Quoting Mary83:

relationship with a turkish man

Maria



i rest my case


What about me here??Would you mind please explaining a bit Robyn...Please tell me you forgot the argue we had earlier about football

164.       CANLI
5084 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 01:16 pm

Quoting turkishgirll:



Hi CANLI,

I am new to this page so I didn't check all the posts that were written, I became a member like 3-4 days ago indeed.

Quote:



Welcome to TC then.

Quote:


"And that is what you pick from ALL the Western style life ?!" That's the question I didn't understand thou? What do you mean by that? It isn't simply love affair part that that's Western style in me (Although I don't find it right to call it Western style, it is just my personal choices and style)



Well,call me old fashion,or maybe its just my Eastern way of thinking,
But the word my boyfriend to me, means my lover too,
So it's hard for me to understand how can one have so many lovers.
İ mean,true love doesn't come 5 or 6 times in one's life,
or maybe it comes to lucky people ?!

Anyhow,as you said it is personal choices.

165.       geeta
0 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 01:18 pm

Wow good to see here instead of


I JUST LOVE SMILEYS

166.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 01:21 pm

Quoting Mary83:

Quoting robyn :

Quoting Mary83:

relationship with a turkish man

Maria



i rest my case


What about me here??Would you mind please explaining a bit Robyn...Please tell me you forgot the argue we had earlier about football



of course i have dear
what i meant was that ur post was so definitive..although u recognised that not all turkish men are the same..u based ur whole post on just one experience.that was my point hunni..

167.       Mary83
178 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 01:47 pm

Quoting robyn :

Quoting Mary83:

Quoting robyn :

Quoting Mary83:

relationship with a turkish man

Maria



i rest my case


What about me here??Would you mind please explaining a bit Robyn...Please tell me you forgot the argue we had earlier about football



of course i have dear
wgat i meant was ur post was so definitive..although u recognised that not all turkish men are the same..u based ur whole post on just one experience.that was my point hunni..


Well Robyn, that was my opinion based on my own personal experience with ONE turkish man..And people don't have to agree with me in here!!Some people in here have had good or bad experiences with turkish men and i am just one of those who weren't so lucky...
And i will repeat myself again saying that "every forest has its own dryness"so there are bad people everywhere in the world.. i just want everybody to be happy and find their soulmates, in Turkiye or in another corner of the world BUT i promise that if i meet another turkish man with whom i will live happily ever after,i will be here telling and sharing my happiness with everybody!!!Wish me luck!!

168.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 04:01 pm

Quoting Rain:



ya u r rght...fo you i thnk im the best but you come here to find a girl whn ya help people.. but i come here to talk about mycountry.. this is diffrnce.. you only can be nice wich girls try to talk or need help here..this is show wht ya got..dont keep about mymuscle..if ya need so mch go make urslf too..u can talk in front of pc.. but if ya try to talk in front of me sure urface alrdy change..its not i get crzy..coz in here men try to get ladie thts why same like you like ramayan...

i wont shut mymouth no worrie..im % man.. if ya not in 100% pls get the f out now..

i dont care how ya try to get a ladie from this website.. but i dont have to..whn ya help people...dont thnk other be % 100 man..but i suspct from u also urage dosent show quality 1.. this is me and mylanguage..if ya dont like dont talk about me thn or ignore me thts it..dont spend yourenergy fo this dumb manif ya still talk.. i ll say u r same sht like inside rubish..

by tha way if ya wanna say smtng to me talk turkish dont show off wht kind of idiot u r.. whn some 1 talk rubish.. say bastard to the turkish man wht tha f u were doin? ureyes aint see tht time.. coz of a lady rght? last time i saw 1 lady admin she also using shit words here why no 1 say smtng.? this is show wht kind of brain u got..

i fgot to say tht...u like to hear women got how many men in tha bed? or man f how many women in tha resort? this is make ya feel happy? fo you this call freedom? can say everytng u like?oh f man...urage really not show tht u really clever....People come here talkng how their husbnd f them..or their boyf.. how they kiss... more worse thngs they come and talk but fo you.. all is their opinion have to respct..fo you can discuss...ah ah whn some 1 talk smtng about yourwife outside thn only u can understnd wht i try to explain to the people here ..whn some 1 say look the people everybody share their private life here..they ll make fun of you..but fo you people have to respct.. f ya mind ..if ya are like turkish.. SORRY F YOU 2... i dont respct any1 of you here who thnkng same like you.!!!..

this is mylanguage ...if any1 dont like dont post about me thn..



Rain Rain Rain...

you didnt understand what i am trying to say to you did you?

as an answer to your personal wonders:
i was with far east sports for 3 years and i was quite well with it(Championship of Istanbul) and i played around 2 years in amateur Soccer League... i can say that i am pretty good with my body

and i am in a good and perfect relation for months...
so you understood what i mean i guess now...

in every thread you appear, there is always chaos... why?
this is not because of that you are a talking MAN, this is only because you are a PROBLEM

and ramayan is right about what he says... their saying bad things about Turkish guys they met, as if they are all saint, doesnt give you the right to insult them! if you are a man, let me correct, if you are a human, you should talk without shouting and trying to be dominant...

WE all say that generalization is not that good, about a nation and sick and bad is everywhere not only in Turkey...

anyway take your time Rain...
see you later

169.       qdemir
813 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 04:01 pm

Cease fire, guys. Take a deep breath and relax.

170.       geeta
0 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 04:19 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Cease fire, guys. Take a deep breath and relax.



qdemir It was already declared but since you know it takes time for people to calm down :|

171.       juliacernat
424 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 04:39 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Cease fire, guys. Take a deep breath and relax.



I completely agree!
Let`s all show some maturity and sesitivity and present arguments and stop arguing just for the sake of arguing! This leads nowhere and help nobody!

172.       Rain
0 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 04:47 pm

Quote:

QUOTE]

Rain Rain Rain...

you didnt understand what i am trying to say to you did you?

as an answer to your personal wonders:
i was with far east sports for 3 years and i was quite well with it(Championship of Istanbul) and i played around 2 years in amateur Soccer League... i can say that i am pretty good with my body

and i am in a good and perfect relation for months...
so you understood what i mean i guess now...

in every thread you appear, there is always chaos... why?
this is not because of that you are a talking MAN, this is only because you are a PROBLEM

and ramayan is right about what he says... their saying bad things about Turkish guys they met, as if they are all saint, doesnt give you the right to insult them! if you are a man, let me correct, if you are a human, you should talk without shouting and trying to be dominant...

WE all say that generalization is not that good, about a nation and sick and bad is everywhere not only in Turkey...

anyway take your time Rain...
see you later



oke..

173.       CANLI
5084 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 05:06 pm

Guys,how about my questions?
Only turkishgirl has answered them,then you all agree with her ?

174.       ramayan
2633 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 05:14 pm

Quote:

rain

ok



hehe its hard to belive this is rain...hey guy what happened to you? where your favourite word '' f..k''

anyway i didnt want to remind you...hehe ehh i think everything is ok now thank u all

175.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 05:44 pm

Hi all,

It is a kind of notice for the readers of this post that I am not planning to answer to any kind of personal attacks aimed to me after all because some people have low quality here and I am not going to honour them by giving an answer to them anymore. So I will ignore those who try to attack me, showing that they are no importance to me. I hope they are smart enough to realize that.
But then if I am talking English here it is because of my respect to all of you guys. Because everybody doesn't know Turkish here. That's why we Turkish people are here thou, to try helping you with the language and some other questions if you are in need of.

176.       Rain
0 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 05:47 pm

Quoting turkishgirll:

Hi all,

It is a kind of notice for the readers of this post that I am not planning to answer to any kind of personal attacks aimed to me after all because some people have low quality here and I am not going to honour them by giving an answer to them anymore.
But then if I am talking English here it is because of my respect to all of you guys. Because everybody doesn't know Turkish here. That's why we Turkish people are here thou, to try helping you with the language and some other questions if you are in need of.



i got low quality but u got high quality thn can show how many man u got bye bye

177.       turkishgirll
52 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 06:09 pm

"Welcome to TC then."

Thank you CANLI

"Well,call me old fashion,or maybe its just my Eastern way of thinking,
But the word my boyfriend to me, means my lover too,
So it's hard for me to understand how can one have so many lovers.
İ mean,true love doesn't come 5 or 6 times in one's life,
or maybe it comes to lucky people ?!
Anyhow,as you said it is personal choices."


I do not judge if you have Eastern way of thinking or if you are old-fashinoned. To me, you just have a different perspective of looking at the issue and that's understandable.
Well, here comes the question: What is the definition of TRUE LOVE? That is a really cliche saying... The True Love... Even the people who believe in their "true love" -I am not saying all but God knows how many- get married and couple of years later or years after years later they get divorced. Don't these people believe in true love then? Or didn't they believe it at all? When you start a relationship you start with a positive mind and wishing and hoping that person is the one. It may work, it may not work... Nobody is to be blamed. You sometimes love more, sometimes less...But I just don't believe in the expression of "true love". Sorry...

178.       kissturk
130 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 06:35 pm

Rain, having read what you said about people coming here after divorced speaking bull shit, i'm really very P***ed off with you

I'm dovirced and not one word of bull has come out my mouth. If you don't want to read the same old shit why do you come to the forum to read posts on the subject of "turkish lovers" - surely it tells you enough in the title!!spare yourself and me a headache stop moaning !!
Shit happens, i'm not speaking for everyone but i ceraintly konw that i feel a lot better about talking about my bad experience, and i am definetly not showing off or boasting about what happened to me... I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and i know i don't want you to feel sorry for me either... In order to move forward i tend to ened to justify whats happened. I know that any 2 men are not the same, no matter, culture, nationality or religion. Theres deffinetly nobody like you that's for sure!
P>S: if you don't like reading about LOVE, misfortune, Sex don't bloody read it!

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww i feel so much better now, sorry if i just spoken a load of pants.

179.       Rain
0 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 06:51 pm

Quoting kissturk:

Rain, having read what you said about people coming here after divorced speaking bull shit, i'm really very P***ed off with you

I'm dovirced and not one word of bull has come out my mouth. If you don't want to read the same old shit why do you come to the forum to read posts on the subject of "turkish lovers" - surely it tells you enough in the title!!spare yourself and me a headache stop moaning !!
Shit happens, i'm not speaking for everyone but i ceraintly konw that i feel a lot better about talking about my bad experience, and i am definetly not showing off or boasting about what happened to me... I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and i know i don't want you to feel sorry for me either... In order to move forward i tend to ened to justify whats happened. I know that any 2 men are not the same, no matter, culture, nationality or religion. Theres deffinetly nobody like you that's for sure!
P>S: if you don't like reading about LOVE, misfortune, Sex don't bloody read it!

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww i feel so much better now, sorry if i just spoken a load of pants.



is there any words tht i used about everybody? or i said some people... u got pain over there take it easy bye bye..

180.       karekin04
565 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 06:53 pm

Quoting kissturk:

Rain, having read what you said about people coming here after divorced speaking bull shit, i'm really very P***ed off with you

I'm dovirced and not one word of bull has come out my mouth. If you don't want to read the same old shit why do you come to the forum to read posts on the subject of "turkish lovers" - surely it tells you enough in the title!!spare yourself and me a headache stop moaning !!
Shit happens, i'm not speaking for everyone but i ceraintly konw that i feel a lot better about talking about my bad experience, and i am definetly not showing off or boasting about what happened to me... I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and i know i don't want you to feel sorry for me either... In order to move forward i tend to ened to justify whats happened. I know that any 2 men are not the same, no matter, culture, nationality or religion. Theres deffinetly nobody like you that's for sure!
P>S: if you don't like reading about LOVE, misfortune, Sex don't bloody read it!

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww i feel so much better now, sorry if i just spoken a load of pants.

Aferin! Aferin! feels nice to get it out once in awhile doesnt it

181.       SERA_2005
668 posts
 14 Nov 2006 Tue 08:25 pm

Guy's you have all gone mad.Just chill out this a forum for discussion and learning not abuse.Lets just chill out.

182.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 02:18 am

Quoting turkishgirll:

I do not judge if you have Eastern way of thinking or if you are old-fashinoned. To me, you just have a different perspective of looking at the issue and that's understandable.
Well, here comes the question: What is the definition of TRUE LOVE? That is a really cliche saying... The True Love... Even the people who believe in their "true love" -I am not saying all but God knows how many- get married and couple of years later or years after years later they get divorced. Don't these people believe in true love then? Or didn't they believe it at all? When you start a relationship you start with a positive mind and wishing and hoping that person is the one. It may work, it may not work... Nobody is to be blamed. You sometimes love more, sometimes less...But I just don't believe in the expression of "true love". Sorry...



hmmm...i didn't really want to get involved in talking about turkish lovers...but here is my 2 cents worth...

evet, i agree with you turkishgirll. i think when in any relationship you always think that the person you are with is your true love. but then when that relationship ends, there is the possibility you will move onto another relationship with someone else. so is this new person your true love now? but how can they be if your previous relationship was your true love?

getting back to the original post by turkishgirll...i have only been with one turkish partner so far. i found him to be charming, sweet, loving, and the loveliest guy. however, there were not so good traits in him, but i think all of us have not so good traits as well as the good. he was possessive, obsessive, acted like a child when he didn't get his way, and very full on.

however, that hasn't made me judge turkish people from this one person's actions because i don't think these characteristics are specific to any one group of people. they are relevant to all of us.

anyway, i have found another turkish man that i like very much, who is always on my mind, and i hope something can develop out of it...he is a little closer to me in many ways...in distance (living in same country) and also in attitude, way of life, life experiences, and how he was brought up. i do see in him the charm, the sweetness, and the passion. but i also know that there are not so good traits in him as well...but a watered down version compared to the previous guy.

183.       kai
0 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 03:52 am

Wow isn't it amazing that you ask a question on turkish lovers and you always get sooooo many replies lol

Not that it's not good to hear everyone's views tabii

184.       Sia
50 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 04:04 am

Hi, I just wanted to say that in America we have guys who are also possessive, obsessive, abusive, rapists, charming, sweet, insecure, handsome, aggressive, violent, romantic, and so on. I beleive that we cannot judge ANY country on thse traits, as we all have them.

I myself have never been with a Turkish man, but I am speaking with two of them, both of whom fit into opposite ends of this spectrum. They are not my boyfriends, nor have I told either that I am their girlfriend, so don't take this wrong.

One is sweet, intellectual, romantic, charming, handsome, and considerate. Unfortunatley, he recently had an auto accident and has been held up in rehabilitation for almost a month now. The other somehow found me and has begun telling me I am his darling, and that I cannot talk to other men.. And strangley has offered to get me a job as an airline attendant?? I am a nurse! I have had to cut him off because of this. I only met him a week ago?!

So yes, I have seen both ends here from only two Turkish men.. but I have also seen the same in American men and Mexican men. Every human being has the capability of having ANY of these traits. It is unfortunate that people judge an entire country for a few men's bad deeds.

185.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 04:25 am

Quoting Sia:

Hi, I just wanted to say that in America we have guys who are also possessive, obsessive, abusive, rapists, charming, sweet, insecure, handsome, aggressive, violent, romantic, and so on. I beleive that we cannot judge ANY country on thse traits, as we all have them.

So yes, I have seen both ends here from only two Turkish men.. but I have also seen the same in American men and Mexican men. Every human being has the capability of having ANY of these traits. It is unfortunate that people judge an entire country for a few men's bad deeds.



yes, that is what i said in my previous post.

i have seen the same in aussie, greek, italian, colombian, spanish, maltese men.

186.       Sia
50 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 06:30 am

I know, I was backing your point with my own experiences thus far.

187.       geeta
0 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 06:57 am

Human is an animal. Some animals are cold blooded and some are the opposite. God never distinguished between them then who are we to generalize about a particular breed of the humans?

God created this world as a single entity but we humans created boudries and its pathetic as to how we pass comments about each others breed.


Geeta

188.       Sia
50 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 07:37 am

Quoting geeta:

Human is an animal. Some animals are cold blooded and some are the opposite. God never distinguished between them then who are we to generalize about a particular breed of the humans?

God created this world as a single entity but we humans created boudries and its pathetic as to how we pass comments about each others breed.


Geeta



Very well spoken!!! Kudos!!

You know, i have read alot about the "Turkish Resorts" and their waitors, etc... which of these resorts are most popular for this? Is this Antalya? I have seen pictures of this beach and it is beautiful.. My Turkish friend's cousin goes there ALOT... he is admittidly a "player", hehe.. he admits he is not loyal, and even hit on me! However, I told him I was interested in his cousin only.. he continued for two days, but then backed off.. nice guy however. I can only hope that he will report of my loyalty to his cousin, being that he is in the hospital. (No he hasn't asked me for money, he seems to have enough of his own... )

Anyway, my question is regarding what resorts specifically do these tourists tend to "fall in love" with the Turkish boys who are providing these "heartbreaking experiences"? This is sad..

189.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 07:53 am

Quoting Sia:

You know, i have read alot about the "Turkish Resorts" and their waitors, etc... which of these resorts are most popular for this? Is this Antalya? I have seen pictures of this beach and it is beautiful.. My Turkish friend's cousin goes there ALOT... he is admittidly a "player", hehe.. he admits he is not loyal, and even hit on me! However, I told him I was interested in his cousin only.. he continued for two days, but then backed off.. nice guy however. I can only hope that he will report of my loyalty to his cousin, being that he is in the hospital. (No he hasn't asked me for money, he seems to have enough of his own... )

Anyway, my question is regarding what resorts specifically do these tourists tend to "fall in love" with the Turkish boys who are providing these "heartbreaking experiences"? This is sad..



in reference to your question sia, i don't think there is one specific resort renowned for this. i think there are a few. mostly the ones along the coast...antalya, marmaris, bodrum...having said that it could also happen in istanbul and other places too.

190.       ramayan
2633 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 09:59 am

Quote:

sia

You know, i have read alot about the "Turkish Resorts" and their waitors, etc... which of these resorts are most popular for this? Is this Antalya?



hehe i smelled here a naughty aim :d heheh
but generalization would be wrong for this issue...they can be everywer heheh beware of heartbreakers or take care of ur heart

191.       geeta
0 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 10:18 am

hmm I wonder if on those (in)famous beaches they have warning signs like 'beware of sharks and playboys'



192.       ramayan
2633 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 10:38 am

Quoting geeta:

hmm I wonder if on those (in)famous beaches they have warning signs like 'beware of sharks and playboys'



no there is no signs...we are poor of signs...but those sharks are not so wild..they first check around and make discovery then attact...so you should always be awake

and pls chew the fruit pieces bfor you swallow(i saw it in an ice cream shop in usa) so funny..we dont have signs like that

193.       Elisa
0 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 12:28 pm

Quoting ramayan:

and pls chew the fruit pieces bfor you swallow(i saw it in an ice cream shop in usa) so funny..we dont have signs like that



lol
The purpose is to protect them from law suits since a woman sued McDonalds because the coffee was too hot...
Like putting 'May contain nuts' on a pack of peanuts you get on the plane
Or 'Don't turn upside down' on the BOTTOM of a box of tiramisu!!

194.       juliacernat
424 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 12:34 pm

Quoting ramayan:

Quoting geeta:

hmm I wonder if on those (in)famous beaches they have warning signs like 'beware of sharks and playboys'



no there is no signs...we are poor of signs...but those sharks are not so wild..they first check around and make discovery then attact...so you should always be awake

and pls chew the fruit pieces bfor you swallow(i saw it in an ice cream shop in usa) so funny..we dont have signs like that



true...you never know till you try
and a piece of advice from a wise man regarding the only...so called "true love": "those who believe that all fruits are ripe when cherries are, shall know nothing about grapes"

195.       ramayan
2633 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 12:39 pm

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting ramayan:

and pls chew the fruit pieces bfor you swallow(i saw it in an ice cream shop in usa) so funny..we dont have signs like that



lol
The purpose is to protect them from law suits since a woman sued McDonalds because the coffee was too hot...
Like putting 'May contain nuts' on a pack of peanuts you get on the plane
Or 'Don't turn upside down' on the BOTTOM of a box of tiramisu!!



no elisa the message lay there is about chewing hahah

196.       Elisa
0 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 01:12 pm

Quoting ramayan:

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting ramayan:

and pls chew the fruit pieces bfor you swallow(i saw it in an ice cream shop in usa) so funny..we dont have signs like that



lol
The purpose is to protect them from law suits since a woman sued McDonalds because the coffee was too hot...
Like putting 'May contain nuts' on a pack of peanuts you get on the plane
Or 'Don't turn upside down' on the BOTTOM of a box of tiramisu!!



no elisa the message lay there is about chewing hahah



I am soooooo very tempted now to make some remarks, but even the off-topic section wouldn't be able to handle them

197.       aenigma x
0 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 01:21 pm

Quoting Elisa:

I am soooooo very tempted now to make some remarks, but even the off-topic section wouldn't be able to handle them



Awww go on Elisa !

198.       ramayan
2633 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 01:43 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Elisa:

I am soooooo very tempted now to make some remarks, but even the off-topic section wouldn't be able to handle them



Awww go on Elisa !



elisa she looks so enthusiastıc may be we should go on the same CHEWıng subject in her birthday thread

btw ıf thıs thread could handle raın ıt can handle thıs subject very well
hehehe

199.       Sia
50 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 03:04 pm

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting ramayan:

and pls chew the fruit pieces bfor you swallow(i saw it in an ice cream shop in usa) so funny..we dont have signs like that



lol
The purpose is to protect them from law suits since a woman sued McDonalds because the coffee was too hot...
Like putting 'May contain nuts' on a pack of peanuts you get on the plane
Or 'Don't turn upside down' on the BOTTOM of a box of tiramisu!!



Yeah, I remember when this woman sued McDonalds.. ironic thing was, her son spilled the coffee on her! Go figure!

Oh, and I just had Tiramisu for the first time ever the other day... DELICIOUS!!!!!!!!!

200.       Elisa
0 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 08:19 pm

Quoting ramayan:


elisa she looks so enthusiastıc



I'd start worrying if I were you dear

Quoting ramayan:

btw ıf thıs thread could handle raın ıt can handle thıs subject very well
hehehe



True, you got me there

201.       Elisa
0 posts
 15 Nov 2006 Wed 08:23 pm

Quoting Sia:


Oh, and I just had Tiramisu for the first time ever the other day... DELICIOUS!!!!!!!!!



Now it so happens that (and I don't mean to brag, it's not in my nature ) I know how to make a splendid tiramisu.. Thanks for reminding me

202.       irishdon
143 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 06:31 pm

ok, but I bet you can't make tiramisu as well as the chef in my restaurant If you can, I'll give you a job here

203.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 06:35 pm

Quoting irishdon:

ok, but I bet you can't make tiramisu as well as the chef in my restaurant If you can, I'll give you a job here



but what would her wage be? if so u could have a tc competition on ur hands

204.       irishdon
143 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 06:40 pm

A competition? That could be interesting! Come here and I'll organise the competition And the wage will depend on how good you are!

205.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 06:44 pm

Quoting irishdon:

A competition? That could be interesting! Come here and I'll organise the competition And the wage will depend on how good you are!



then i guess i'd work for free lol

206.       irishdon
143 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 06:54 pm

Suits me!!

207.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 06:56 pm

Quoting irishdon:

Suits me!!



alla alla ingilizsin tabii lol

208.       irishdon
143 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:00 pm

"ingilizsin tabii" ?? Not sure what that means

209.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:04 pm

Quoting irishdon:

"ingilizsin tabii" ?? Not sure what that means



you are english of course ..not me being sarcastic,.thats what i said

210.       irishdon
143 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:13 pm

I thought that's what you meant. English, no. Irish, from Dublin, if you must know haha

211.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:14 pm

well i thought u irish were supposed to be nice when u are drunk

212.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:16 pm

Quoting irishdon:

A competition? That could be interesting! Come here and I'll organise the competition And the wage will depend on how good you are!



The topic is about lovers.... And now a competition about restaurant chefs? Do lovers have to cook?

213.       irishdon
143 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:17 pm

Hey, I'm nice even without drinking

214.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:18 pm

ok..if u say so

215.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:22 pm

Quoting robyn :

ok..if u say so


Do you believe him that easily? No proof asked?

216.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:23 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting robyn :

ok..if u say so


Do you believe him that easily? No proof asked?



hey anne dear im from essex..stupid is tattoed on my head

217.       sweet.kane
104 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:32 pm

When i was in Turkey, this group of British girls was in the same hotel as me, and the first day they was there they was bleezing (drunk). They also made up this game called "see who could have sex with the most Turkish men". So they did, every night they went on a mission.

Rapes happen everywhere.

218.       irishdon
143 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:33 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting robyn :

ok..if u say so


Do you believe him that easily? No proof asked?



Ok, put me to the test then if you don't believe me!!!

219.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:34 pm

im sure she will

220.       irishdon
143 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:48 pm

221.       irishdon
143 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:51 pm

222.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 07:59 pm

Quoting robyn :

im sure she will


Me? Why do you assume that....?

223.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 08:00 pm

Quoting sweet.kane:

When i was in Turkey, this group of British girls was in the same hotel as me, and the first day they was there they was bleezing (drunk). They also made up this game called "see who could have sex with the most Turkish men". So they did, every night they went on a mission.

Rapes happen everywhere.



They do. But I guess this time the 'victims' are not those British girls....

224.       kai
0 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 08:29 pm

Quoting sweet.kane:

When i was in Turkey, this group of British girls was in the same hotel as me, and the first day they was there they was bleezing (drunk). They also made up this game called "see who could have sex with the most Turkish men". So they did, every night they went on a mission.

Rapes happen everywhere.



every night? ....there is a name for those type of girls...kaltak! or orospu if you like
Sorry but they are!

225.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 08:54 pm

Quoting kai:

every night? ....there is a name for those type of girls...kaltak! or orospu if you like Sorry but they are!



Orospu is in my dictionary, kaltak not. Is it - what I think - the less decent word for the same?

226.       deli
5904 posts
 17 Nov 2006 Fri 08:59 pm

its on this dictionary

227.       irishdon
143 posts
 18 Nov 2006 Sat 01:20 pm

Interesting words from the Turkish language! I hadn't got as far as learning those yet

228.       Trudy
7887 posts
 18 Nov 2006 Sat 01:23 pm

Quoting irishdon:

Interesting words from the Turkish language! I hadn't got as far as learning those yet



My Turkish is at a starting level but calling names was the first thing people in Turkey taught me...

229.       deli
5904 posts
 18 Nov 2006 Sat 01:25 pm

i give those type of words a wide birth, turkish is such a beautiful language , i dont wish to learn these words, i know enough foul words in english

230.       irishdon
143 posts
 18 Nov 2006 Sat 01:32 pm

Quoting deli:

i give those type of words a wide birth, turkish is such a beautiful language , i dont wish to learn these words, i know enough foul words in english



I agree!! It won't impress anyone in Turkey if you show a knowledge of the "lower levels" of the language. Why spoil a good conversation with such words?

231.       Trudy
7887 posts
 18 Nov 2006 Sat 01:38 pm

Quoting irishdon:

Quoting deli:

i give those type of words a wide birth, turkish is such a beautiful language , i dont wish to learn these words, i know enough foul words in english



I agree!! It won't impress anyone in Turkey if you show a knowledge of the "lower levels" of the language. Why spoil a good conversation with such words?


Oh, but the only person I have ever used them to was my ex-boyfriend (who happens to be one of the persons who taught them to me....)

232.       irishdon
143 posts
 18 Nov 2006 Sat 01:55 pm

That alright then .. I think!! :-S

233.       kai
0 posts
 18 Nov 2006 Sat 07:04 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting kai:

every night? ....there is a name for those type of girls...kaltak! or orospu if you like Sorry but they are!



Orospu is in my dictionary, kaltak not. Is it - what I think - the less decent word for the same?



Evet

234.       kai
0 posts
 18 Nov 2006 Sat 07:14 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting irishdon:

Quoting deli:

i give those type of words a wide birth, turkish is such a beautiful language , i dont wish to learn these words, i know enough foul words in english



I agree!! It won't impress anyone in Turkey if you show a knowledge of the "lower levels" of the language. Why spoil a good conversation with such words?


Oh, but the only person I have ever used them to was my ex-boyfriend (who happens to be one of the persons who taught them to me....)



I got into an argument with some turk guy because he was calling my friend a orospu etc because she would NOT do anything with him and she didn't know what it meant so she was like :-S and he just laughed....that is until I said what I had to say to convince him that he wasn't the only one who could insult people in turkish....he was quite shocked as you can imagine .....lol

It wasn't the best way to handle things I must admit but to be honest he was lucky I never done anything else. I hate it when people do stuff like that to my friends or family it drives me nuts!

So other than that I haven't really used to against someone....apart from my Uncle Can....but only as a joke tabii

235.       Elisa
0 posts
 18 Nov 2006 Sat 11:47 pm

Quoting irishdon:

ok, but I bet you can't make tiramisu as well as the chef in my restaurant If you can, I'll give you a job here



Well, I'm convinced that my tiramisu is delicious , but I'm clever as well , so I realize that I shouldn't try to compete with an Italian chef..

236.       Elisa
0 posts
 19 Nov 2006 Sun 12:30 am

Quoting deli:

i give those type of words a wide birth, turkish is such a beautiful language , i dont wish to learn these words, i know enough foul words in english



Hm, I don't fully agree. Of course when starting to learn a language, it's much more interesting to learn useful stuff that will get you around.
But at an intermediate or advanced level I'd find it interesting to have an extensive vocabulary, wether it's the names of trees, onomatopoeia, or curse words..

Elisa (beginner )

237.       Elisa
0 posts
 19 Nov 2006 Sun 12:43 am

I happen to notice that the king of slang has just entered the building

238.       ramayan
2633 posts
 19 Nov 2006 Sun 12:45 am

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting deli:

i give those type of words a wide birth, turkish is such a beautiful language , i dont wish to learn these words, i know enough foul words in english



Hm, I don't fully agree. Of course when starting to learn a language, it's much more interesting to learn useful stuff that will get you around.
But at an intermediate or advanced level I'd find it interesting to have an extensive vocabulary, wether it's the names of trees, onomatopoeia, or curse words..

Elisa (beginner )



as an expert in cursing vocabulary you should definately learn it elisa it really helps and works many times...and i will open a thread just for cursing words and sentence structure rain was doing this for english beginners but i think turkishclass needs a turkish curse beginners

fill ur applications and leave it with ur cv to the thread i open...and according to requests i ll start teaching

(ahh how can you find such a briliant and qualified teacher)

pls dont pm or i ll report you as spam

239.       Elisa
0 posts
 19 Nov 2006 Sun 12:51 am

Quoting ramayan:

pls dont pm or i ll report you as spam



lol

240.       Elisa
0 posts
 19 Nov 2006 Sun 12:52 am

Quoting ramayan:

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting deli:

i give those type of words a wide birth, turkish is such a beautiful language , i dont wish to learn these words, i know enough foul words in english



Hm, I don't fully agree. Of course when starting to learn a language, it's much more interesting to learn useful stuff that will get you around.
But at an intermediate or advanced level I'd find it interesting to have an extensive vocabulary, wether it's the names of trees, onomatopoeia, or curse words..

Elisa (beginner )



as an expert in cursing vocabulary you should definately learn it elisa



Rest assured, I'm working on it

241.       aslan2
507 posts
 19 Nov 2006 Sun 08:54 am

Quoting ramayan:


as an expert in cursing vocabulary you should definately learn it. it really helps and works many times...and i will open a thread just for cursing words and sentence structure. i think turkishclass needs a turkish curse beginners


Yes. Would be interesting. It really becomes fun sometimes. Once I was abroad with a Turkish friend. There was nobody around who could understand Turkish. So we used to begin talk with full of curse words. Any problem, we would start to curse on anything. Nobody had any idea what we were talking about. Oh boy it was really a good relief.

Again when you meet some people it can be a fun to exchange the curse words in your language with those in their language, especially after some beers in a bar. (when, of course, you think nobody around would undertand your language and their language)

242.       tirrogan
0 posts
 19 Nov 2006 Sun 09:49 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting qdemir:

Quote:

in turkey...marmaris partiucally....and u acnnot say that it doesnt happen in turkey becoz turkey and the uk have 1 of the highest ratings of rape in the world



I don't know the rate in England. However it isn't that high in Turkey. On what grounds and sources are you giving that rate in Turkey?



qdemir, why are you so ferociously denying these things??? I'd like to see YOUR sources on which you base your opinions!
it's a known fact that rape and infidelity is rampant in Turkey, especially in the touristic locations.
it's enough to get Turkish newspapers (not even magazines) to watch porn over there, so go figure how they behave. a lot of those guys are perverts who got used to double standards and then when western women visit and do sleep around, they judge them and have no respect for them.

I hate the term "easy girl". since when sleeping around is a problem for you guys? guys are the biggest sluts on the earth, but for some reason I haven't heard the term "an easy guy" used in the same negative way as it is for the women. god!! I'm so sick of the double standards... what is really so negative about "easy girls" is that they are free and men can't stand that, well.. a little more complicated then that, but whatever. I'm not talking here about women who sleep around for the sake of improving their self-esteem by feeling attractive to some slutty dude, but women who are free and choose who they sleep with and sleep who they want to sleep with!

I say - western women, go to Turkey, use and dump those bastards! (sure, some are not bastards and those deserve respect).

I can't stand women who embrace the idea that they are allowed less then men (in order to think that they are "good girls" or to get respect by obediently following the rules made by their male dominant society they live in...), and who let guys control their lifes and tell them what they should or shouldn't do.


u think u use and dump them.but i guess they think the same

243.       tirrogan
0 posts
 19 Nov 2006 Sun 09:56 am

Quoting susie k:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Trudy:

Do you check them out for me? And then ear-tag them, with different colors for different gradings?



Well, I was thinking more about awarding them Michelin type stars, and tattoeing it on their heads. It would be of invaluable help to other girls, don't you think?



I think that this should be made compulsory throughout the world! Tag all the men so women know what they are getting!!!!


why dont you tag all women.so we can know how many times they went to bodrom or bedroom.

244.       Trudy
7887 posts
 19 Nov 2006 Sun 11:33 am

Quoting tirrogan:

why dont you tag all women.so we can know how many times they went to bodrom or bedroom.


Nah, tagging men is much more fun....

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