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What about Turkish lovers?
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12 Nov 2006 Sun 07:22 pm |
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12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:15 pm |
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Quote: Well I must admit, I have read your initial post a few times now and it IS rather bizarre 
You are comparing lovers like you might, for example, compare different wines!! It seems...well...rather clinical! What is next on your list? An Australian perhaps? Or maybe a Frenchman? Do you keep a card index of each one, with notes to compare?  |
 You sounded so funny to me, with this post I am trying to figure out people's general point of view on TURKISH LOVERS. It is nobody's business if I have Frenchman or an Aussie in the future. I leave the keeping a card index of each one to you if that would entertain you. Everybody is like a different world himself so OF COURSE you compare and contrast (without telling him) your experiences and what you see in him or what you saw in your ex-lovers whom you had. That's how you learn not to make the same mistakes with a different person. Like the comparison in different wines as you stated... Everybody has different taste so might be interested in different characters, what's wrong with that?!?
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12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:15 pm |
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I don't get what this discussion is all about. How can you compare lovers on the basis of nationality? Were that possible there'd be a worldwide research done and the guys from the "bottom nations" would only dream of getting a partner.
Men are men, women are women! In every nationality there are good and bad lovers, just as there are good and bad people. True, we can discuss the culturally influenced Turkish "softness" and sweettalking which are typical of eastern regions, but will it provide us with the answers we're looking for? Do you think that choosing a guy from a particular country minimizes your chances of getting coned? I don't think so. Every relationship is an individual matter. I know girls who are happy with their Turkish boyfriends and those who were cheated on, just like I know those who are happy with their fellow-country men and those who are unhappy in such relationships.
I strongly feel this is not a matter of culture or nationality that faciliates or puts the relationship at risk. It is the people who are involved that make it a bliss or a cuse.
Sticking to stereotypes does more harm than good. If we assume that Turkish guys are players who go for western girls just to gain some experience before marrying a decent Turkish virgin would be unfair to both men and women as not all Turkish guys are like this, let alone all Turkish girls!
On the other hand, assuming that all Turks are passionate, delicate and sensitive creatures may end up in somebody's getting wrongdone by an individual who is not like this.
As far as I'm concerned, we all have our own minds and life experience to judge everybody that we are willing to start a relationship with. Regardless of nationality, religion or culture. Is that enough to stay out of trouble? Hardly so, but that's what life is about - nothing ventured, nothing gained!
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12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:19 pm |
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Quoting ramayan: ouh yes not at all...i just wanted to help u..its a really big problem after having a boyfriend and as a turkishgirl...hehehe ehh if u r so scientific person u would do it and create ur own theory  if u r coward nobody can help u...im sure u lost that turkish guy bcos of this hahahah....he must have been so happy now |
Ramayan, make him happier if you want. I will give his contact number to you!!!
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12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:21 pm |
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Damn well said Daydreamer!
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12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:22 pm |
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Quoting kai: Damn well said Daydreamer! |
+1. I really DO need that "standing ovation" smiley! Great post Daydreamer. I really do not understand this ridiculous thread!
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12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:25 pm |
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Cheers guys 
Sorry if I sounded a bit rude - it must be a pre-birthday syndrome :-S
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12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:26 pm |
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+1 Daydreamer
You spoke my mind so eloquently!
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12 Nov 2006 Sun 08:34 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: I don't get what this discussion is all about. How can you compare lovers on the basis of nationality? Were that possible there'd be a worldwide research done and the guys from the "bottom nations" would only dream of getting a partner.
Men are men, women are women! In every nationality there are good and bad lovers, just as there are good and bad people. True, we can discuss the culturally influenced Turkish "softness" and sweettalking which are typical of eastern regions, but will it provide us with the answers we're looking for? Do you think that choosing a guy from a particular country minimizes your chances of getting coned? I don't think so. Every relationship is an individual matter. I know girls who are happy with their Turkish boyfriends and those who were cheated on, just like I know those who are happy with their fellow-country men and those who are unhappy in such relationships.
I strongly feel this is not a matter of culture or nationality that faciliates or puts the relationship at risk. It is the people who are involved that make it a bliss or a cuse.
Sticking to stereotypes does more harm than good. If we assume that Turkish guys are players who go for western girls just to gain some experience before marrying a decent Turkish virgin would be unfair to both men and women as not all Turkish guys are like this, let alone all Turkish girls!
On the other hand, assuming that all Turks are passionate, delicate and sensitive creatures may end up in somebody's getting wrongdone by an individual who is not like this.
As far as I'm concerned, we all have our own minds and life experience to judge everybody that we are willing to start a relationship with. Regardless of nationality, religion or culture. Is that enough to stay out of trouble? Hardly so, but that's what life is about - nothing ventured, nothing gained! |
Daydreamer, you are completely right. However, I understood the topic a little differently. Namely, what are the cultural differences in the ways men from different cultures express their love. And there can of course be even some contradicting messages there as well, but overall, i think we can get some sort of feeling about it. For example, many people had experiences with Turks from which they'd say that Turks like to tell sweet lies, others would say that Turks are reserved and don't like to show feelings. Someone from GB would said that Brits are straightforeward and not very romantic. I don't think that if you hear someting like that you're going to think - oh, so 100% of Brits aren't romantic, wow! I think we are smart enough to distinguish between cultural effects on people from individual characteristics.
I don't understand why people have such a hard time talking about the majority and someone always jumps in saying that it's not true because there are other cases. Just because there are decent men in Turkey doesn't mean that we can't say that there are much higher amounts of men in the touristic places who are sluts! When we talk about touristic places, we talk about touristic places, not absolutely ALL Turkish guys!
Why do people love Turkey so much? Because it is different in some ways then the other places they've been to. Does it mean that all of Turkey is different? No, but there is clearly a difference when you go there!
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.....though unfortunatly I was in the situation myself (my ex boyfriend is now in prison for 8 years).
.....lie robin said you get men like that all over the world - in all different countries" though not as much but it does not mean we have to discriminate all me from one country because of the actions of other men in their country.