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17 Dec 2006 Sun 05:34 am |
Quoting Trudy: Quoting CANLI: Surat El Nur,Ayat 31.
And it say,tell the Muslim Women,not they should do,telling is an order.
And look at it this way,lying is forbiden in all religions too.
Are all people honest ?
Same like wearing headscarf. |
I read it. And like Robyn said, it only says 'do not show your ornaments'. It does not state exactly to wear a scarf. I think that is interpretation. |
u r also forgetting Hadeeth and Sunna!
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17 Dec 2006 Sun 05:39 am |
Quoting Rain: long time.. not aroun..
You guys talkin so far from tha post..but i see tht u guys not discuss like racin with somethin..
aLLah created people...send many prophets to show right way.. who belive got paradice after die.. all prophets teachin allah and isLam.. only people chnged the books tht allah sent.. they chnge it fo theirslf wich way is easy fo them..
Kuran say tht women body only fo women husbnd.. and u should cover ya head like canli said..this is not only Quran say.. all religion books sayin.. but all books chnge only Qran never chnge..so if ya read qoran sure u guys can see very clear..
second..isLam not the religion force people to do somethin.. everythin on ya hands to see wich is rght or wrong.. 3..if ya not wear hairscarf is not mean u r not muslim or u r bad..allah give money fo the people who is muslim or not muslim( like japanese people like usa like qorean) aLLah said who want knowlege i ll give directly.. who want money if i want then only u ll get it..
Qran say ya cant drink alcohol.. some muslim drink also.. but we cant say anythin..this is their way to get paradice or hell.. but the rules cant drink.. cant play gamble..yes people dunno anythin about isLam who never read qoran ..so we cant say they are stupid or idiot..we should teach them why like this..
isLam the 1 of religion cant kill innocent people..cant behave bad to the people.. but in israel.. u can see many people say tht their books write u can kill innocent babies..cant see many diffrnce..france kill many innocent in cezair..holland kill many innocent in indonesia.. uK kill many innocent in malaysia.. can u show me..Turkey did? dont think so.. if ya can show i would like to see and listen..
time to not fight..time to learn and share somethin each other to make more nice world..we should learn where we doin mistake muslim or other religions.. we should learn to say WE .. not Me..
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ah, i missed slangs!
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17 Dec 2006 Sun 05:41 am |
Quoting Rain: eywallah arkadaslar.. |
man, where u been... i was starting to pull up my sleeves.
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17 Dec 2006 Sun 05:42 am |
Quoting Lapinkulta: thanks god ,argument finished DDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
NOT FAIR ... i was at work
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17 Dec 2006 Sun 05:45 am |
do'h! i took myself to a deadend! no more tongue twsiting? it was fun! c'mon... somebody.. start talking, say something..
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17 Dec 2006 Sun 05:48 am |
arabianofelix > sana bir soru yazdım, sayfa 15de
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17 Dec 2006 Sun 05:57 am |
ah evet. i thought it was answered!
of course the Quran, but meant we also have the Hadith and the Sunna of the prophet Muhammad{PBUH}.. send me any PM for further questions, since this thread have reached a tying knot!
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17 Dec 2006 Sun 10:47 am |
Quoting arabianofelix: Quoting Trudy: Quoting CANLI: Surat El Nur,Ayat 31.
And it say,tell the Muslim Women,not they should do,telling is an order.
And look at it this way,lying is forbiden in all religions too.
Are all people honest ?
Same like wearing headscarf. |
I read it. And like Robyn said, it only says 'do not show your ornaments'. It does not state exactly to wear a scarf. I think that is interpretation. |
u r also forgetting Hadeeth and Sunna! |
As far as I know, Hadeeth and Sunna are very subject to interpretation. Several 'groups' in Islam have different views about it. Or do you want to say that a Sunni, a Shi'a, and a Sufi all think the same?
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17 Dec 2006 Sun 08:08 pm |
Quoting Trudy: Quoting arabianofelix: Quoting Trudy: Quoting CANLI: Surat El Nur,Ayat 31.
And it say,tell the Muslim Women,not they should do,telling is an order.
And look at it this way,lying is forbiden in all religions too.
Are all people honest ?
Same like wearing headscarf. |
I read it. And like Robyn said, it only says 'do not show your ornaments'. It does not state exactly to wear a scarf. I think that is interpretation. |
u r also forgetting Hadeeth and Sunna! |
As far as I know, Hadeeth and Sunna are very subject to interpretation. Several 'groups' in Islam have different views about it. Or do you want to say that a Sunni, a Shi'a, and a Sufi all think the same? |
No they all not think same ofcourse,but no much differences too in main things.
And as you see,Sunni, a Shi'a, and a Sufi all agree on Hijab,scarf i mean.
And as for Hadith,we know how to differentiate .
We have strong hadith,weak hadith,and so on,
Strong hadith means reliable from many sources,weak is not,and so on,we have degrees of reliability,and we know it.
Who want to know real thing,what ALLAH,or our Propfet SAV said,or ordered,its easy to do in İslam.
Who want to know,can search and will find too.
İf you want talk about it much further,we can pm.
But last thing,we cann't argue anything really in İslam,because everything is clear for who want to know.
So its better to say,i know,but i won't do.
İ wasn't wearing hijab,scarf till lately,and i knew its obligation from ALLAH,but i didn't do.
İt was my choice to do so,but i cann't say its not obligation in İslam ,i know it is.
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