Quoting summi:

Why turkish men like blonds tall and beautiful women? Even if they dont like then they always stare at foreigns. Its just impossible to be in Turkey that way. and now im quite scared

Quoting Dilara:

Men will ALWAYS stare at beautiful women, no matter where they come from! or if they are blonde , latin , brunnete , scandinavian etc...as long as they are pretty...

Quoting summi:

Why turkish men like blonds tall and beautiful women? Even if they dont like then they always stare at foreigns.

Quoting summi:

Its just impossible to be in Turkey that way. and now im quite scared

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting MrX67:

???????????????????????????such a bad joke??

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting mltm:

I hope you don't mean all turkish men.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting MrX67:

i bet you had some bad experiences,but not easy to believe how you can talk about all this much indifferent?????

Quoting catwoman:

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Because they are perverts, mysogynists and objectify women. Also because they watch porn since day 1 for news, for no news, all the f... time .

Quoting summi:

Why turkish men like blonds tall and beautiful women? Even if they dont like then they always stare at foreigns. Its just impossible to be in Turkey that way. and now im quite scared

Quoting MrX67:

and what about blondes whic they try thier best to get all stares on herself with her all wayssssssssss??????

Quoting catwoman:

MrX, calm down please. Your idea of mysogyny is completely different then mine - what I call a pervert is very far from what you would. Not all Turkish men are like I described and even the men that are perverted in my view, can be at the same time very polite and intelligent, so I'm not judging them in all ways, just in terms of their attitudes towards women and on sexuality.

Quoting MrX67:

and what about blondes whic they try thier best to get all stares on herself with her all wayssssssssss??????

Quoting karekin04:

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but was so different question,so lost myself by don't be aware of,again sorry...

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very rar happens to me,and i always believe the crisitism opoosite things,but question was so odd,i couldn't stop myself,but i think i'm ok now

Quoting MrX67:

sorry for my anger cat,but when i saw this sort silly questions,believe i lost myself,again again soory...

Quoting aenigma x:

This whole thread is sick and should be deleted!

Quoting aenigma x:

This whole thread is sick and should be deleted!

Quoting karekin04:

but catwoman's post was the first time I've laughed all week

Quoting summi:

Why turkish men like blonds tall and beautiful women? Even if they dont like then they always stare at foreigns. Its just impossible to be in Turkey that way. and now im quite scared

Quoting aenigma x:

Just....would be really interested in what kind of reply you were expecting?

Quoting Dilara:

Just enjoy the city and recognize that a bit of attention is something women like from time to time, it is like one ego-boost and please dont tell me it is not true!

Quoting suzieswimz:

One man obviously staring at them realized that I was with them and he actually apologized rather profusely.Very honorable thing to do.

Quoting suzieswimz:

My grandfather always said that as long as men have eyes they will look.

Quoting HomeSick:

My wife notices beautiful woman

Quoting MelekUK:

Between "wow, he/she was really handsome/pretty" and "hey baby how about me and you...?"

Quoting HomeSick:

Quoting *Carla Louise*:

I think it's nice for a woman to be admired for her beauty, but I get so angry when I hear some men talk about women in a degrading way or wolf-whistle and all that. It's really disrespectful, and I notice the way men do that in every country. Unfortunately the media encourages this, everywhere you look women are objectified.

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting MelekUK:

However, I think if a woman chooses to wear things which are a little more revealing, of course she will get more people looking whether it's her intention or not.

Quoting aenigma x:

I agree to a certain extent but also feel that if women don't want to be treated as an object - then don't act like one!! While I firmly believe women should wear whatever they want to, I also notice that some women are just as bad as men in judging THEMSELVES on their appearance and competing to look the sexiest !!
If you think of yourself as an object, so will men
(Sorry Catwoman, it's true)

Quoting catwoman:

Of course that's true. Women and men live in the patriarchy and both are brainwashed with the same ideas - 'that women are there to titillate men'. Some women see it as an extra asset, some kind of sexual control over men, which is really a big illusion of power because not only this woman is an object in the eyes of such men (that they have no intention to respect), but also because for these men, she is one of very many.

Since there is practically only one kind of message women get regarding their bodies and sexual roles, I think it's easy for most women to get trapped in it. Yes, unfortunately women allow this cycle to continue, but they always have an inferior role, so I think that men still commit a bigger crime in a way, because they disrespect and degrade others (not themselves). The fact that in some circumstances they seem to be only taking advantage of an available object doesn't make their behavior any less justifiable.

Quoting MrX67:

pity thats one of reality of Turkey>>>>http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/27/news/turkey.php and really very sad to see very young and pretty girls prefer this way to get life easier way and and another sad story for warn the mothers of future >>>>http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2004/10/c28fad55-44c3-4fcc-b3dc-73e93e4d8119.html

Quoting mltm:

legal prostituton is allowed in Turkey

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting mltm:

Quoting aenigma x: Quoting mltm: legal prostituton is allowed in Turkey Ohmygod! I never knew that!!!!!!!!!!!?! Its certainly not allowed here.....

Quoting aenigma x:

Ouh! Interesting - I didn't know that !!! I have checked it it seems it is legal in principle in the UK, but soliciting, running a brothel or "pimping" are illegal. Basically you can be a prostitute in the privacy of your own home!

You learn something new every day!!!

Quoting mltm:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting summi:

Why turkish men like blonds tall and beautiful women? Even if they dont like then they always stare at foreigns. Its just impossible to be in Turkey that way. and now im quite scared

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting lunila:

Quoting MrX67:

and i think stare is a normal action when you see an unusual thing

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting lunila:

Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting summi: Why turkish men like blonds tall and beautiful women? Even if they dont like then they always stare at foreigns. Its just impossible to be in Turkey that way. and now im quite scared i also stare at beautiful women!

Quoting summi:

woow what a topic

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: and i think stare is a normal action when you see an unusual thing I may stare when I see you then MrX67!

Quoting catwoman:

Look at this commentary: Men talk as much as women do! The stereotype is unfounded.

Quoting MrX67:

there are 3 things in life which we men never catch to women ..shopping,talking and grumbling (sure some exceptions)

Quoting femme_fatal:

when im in the west, i force people smile and say "hello" by staring at them, because they think we know each other (and they possibly dont remember) thats why i stare at them so intensively.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting MrX67:

there was a paranthesis at end of sentnce already cat

Quoting mltm:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting mltm:

Hey wait, I love you, femme moi! I love giving you flowers.. I cant wait until I see you next time canim!

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting aenigma x:

Boss...want me to "clean" up here?

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting mltm:

Quoting mltm:

Hey, the title of the topic here is 'girls', so there's no off topic...

Quoting aenigma x:

Sorry sweetcheeks, its not the thread thats being 'cleaned up' tonight....

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting mltm:

Quoting aenigma x: Quoting mltm: Hey, the title of the topic here is 'girls', so there's no off topic... Sorry sweetcheeks, its not the thread thats being 'cleaned up' tonight....

Quoting gezbelle:

Quoting catwoman:

And so, you took the post #100!

Quoting gezbelle:

Quoting aenigma x:

This whole thread is sick and should be deleted!

Quoting summi:

100 :| yeah.. but did anybody see first one???

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting aenigma x: This whole thread is sick and should be deleted! By far the most usefull post of this thread

Quoting mavisakal:

i just wonder why girls here judge all turkish men for disturbing women or being perverts?

who do you think you are? do you think you become as beautiful as marilyn monroe when you are blonde?

and i wonder why nobody talks about women who dies to sleep with waiters or other turkish men in resorts? what would you feel if we generalize all english or russian or german girls only according to what we see in bodrum or antalya? i am living in istanbul..and i dont think blonde women are disturbed so much here...go to google and search about the countries which has highest rate of rape or crimes like that ..i bet you wont see Turkey at the top.

i hope you don't think i am not defending turkish men..i just don't like that you treat us as if we all are here to fish girls then get them naked on cams! that must make you feel precious!

and i am sure the girl who started this thread was expecting the men here to say " oooh yes we love blondes blah blah" ... anyway... i think i talked too much

Quoting mavisakal:

i just wonder why girls here judge all turkish men for disturbing women or being perverts?

who do you think you are? do you think you become as beautiful as marilyn monroe when you are blonde?

and i wonder why nobody talks about women who dies to sleep with waiters or other turkish men in resorts? what would you feel if we generalize all english or russian or german girls only according to what we see in bodrum or antalya? i am living in istanbul..and i dont think blonde women are disturbed so much here...go to google and search about the countries which has highest rate of rape or crimes like that ..i bet you wont see Turkey at the top.

i hope you don't think i am not defending turkish men..i just don't like that you treat us as if we all are here to fish girls then get them naked on cams! that must make you feel precious!

and i am sure the girl who started this thread was expecting the men here to say " oooh yes we love blondes blah blah" ... anyway... i think i talked too much

Quoting yazmin_cita:

just for the record, I married a Turkish man and I love him to death but some of this is true. I know he talks to his friends about meeting russian girls and talk about their hair and beautiful blue eyes.. and he does whatch porn...much. How come he married me??? a Mexican?? put that aside we are still together because we love each other and because I realized that man (from any country)usually stare at tall blondes...beautiful because they are not the typical woman they are nice to fantasize with and look at. But, at the end, most of them will end up with a regular "yazmin" or typical girl with all or most qualities they look for in a wife. Now, some of the luckiest guys can find all these qualities in a tall blonde..

Quoting karekin04:

oh yikes! You might want to delete this post before the gang of 3 get ahold of it oops to late, since I'm quoting it.

Quoting mavisakal:

and i wonder why nobody talks about women who dies to sleep with waiters or other turkish men in resorts? what would you feel if we generalize all english or russian or german girls only according to what we see in bodrum or antalya?

Quoting catwoman:

While Mr mavisakal is righteously angry to hear that Turkish guys are called perverts, I think he should be quite aware of the popularity of porn among guys and how they "look" at women. Again, I define a pervert any guy who thinks that it's ok to objectify women - not to look at them as humans, but as sex objects. That's the bottom line.

Quoting mavisakal:

i just don't like that you treat us as if we all are here to fish girls then get them naked on cams! that must make you feel precious!

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While Mr mavisakal is righteously angry to hear that Turkish guys are called perverts, I think he should be quite aware of the popularity of porn among guys and how they "look" at women. Again, I define a pervert any guy who thinks that it's ok to objectify women - not to look at them as humans, but as sex objects. That's the bottom line.

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Quoting mltm:

I want to give my opinion just about one point.
Do you consider a man who watches porn as a pervert?
If we're gonna consider the men who watch porn as perverts, then I guess the number of perverts will be very high.
It's open to discussion but according to me watching porn cannot mean necesarily that that man degrades woman in his life.

Quoting gezbelle:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting mltm:

Quoting mltm:

It's open to discussion but according to me watching porn cannot mean necesarily that that man degrades woman in his life.

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting aenigma x: Quoting gezbelle: Quoting catwoman: And so, you took the post #100! do i win anything??? A romantic dinner for two with the classmate of your choice

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting catwoman: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting gezbelle: Quoting catwoman: And so, you took the post #100! do i win anything??? A romantic dinner for two with the classmate of your choice Who's your classmate of choice gezbelle?

Quoting mavisakal:

i think women are as guilty as men about being object! most girls just look at some magazines and try to make theirselves look like those beautiful women in magazines. just to be liked by men! (i mean most of girls)

Quoting mavisakal:

i cannot understand why all feminist women always talk about same things...being object blah blah..tell me what you do for other women who needs help..in istanbul i know lots of feminist women and all they do is just talking.. there are millions of women dont know reading and writing in turkey in anatolia. and millions women who are beaten by their husbands..but those beautiful city dweller women still only talk on tv!
you can get equality just by working..not talking..not chatting here..do something better.

Quoting mavisakal:

please dont take it personally...it is just a criticism for all women

Quoting mavisakal:

please dont take it personally...it is just a criticism for all women

Quoting gezbelle:

oh, he was my choice...
do i have to choose again?

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting gezbelle:

Quoting catwoman:

Mavisakal, here is my explanation to you as to why I'm so "obsessed" with porn: Anti-Pornography Activist Blog
Porn Free Internet

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Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting catwoman: Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting aenigma x: This whole thread is sick and should be deleted! By far the most usefull post of this thread How condescending!

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Im sorry, I took it that you were joking too, so my response was not really a serious one either

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My opinion too! I would like to know as this thread seems to be on this subject, about women who watch porn and how about women who watch porn with their partners? Are they all perverts?

Quoting yazmin_cita:

So by myself on my will, I will never watch porn.

Quoting mavisakal:

ok you are right about porn and women are abused in porn films.

Quoting mavisakal:

i think to be aroused by woman body is not to see them as object.it is nature! dont you ever like a man? dont you ever want to have sex with a man who you are not in love with?

Quoting mavisakal:

catwoman you seem so argumentative to me i am scared

Quoting yazmin_cita:

It always messes with my mind and my ego and I feel so insecure. Does he want me to look and act that way? It only makes me feel bad, not good. So by myself on my will, I will never watch porn. it does nothing to me. Now I am concerned for him since he watches almost everyday

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting qdemir:

Additionally, you seem to have a great deal of expreience of pornography.

Quoting catwoman:

Karekin, you trouble maker! You quoted it and now we have a record for an account that backs up our theory on Turkish guys being perverts... Thanks canim!

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Im sorry, I took it that you were joking too, so my response was not really a serious one either

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting yazmin_cita:

just for the record, I married a Turkish man and I love him to death but some of this is true. I know he talks to his friends about meeting russian girls and talk about their hair and beautiful blue eyes.. and he does whatch porn...much. How come he married me??? a Mexican?? put that aside we are still together because we love each other and because I realized that man (from any country)usually stare at tall blondes...beautiful because they are not the typical woman they are nice to fantasize with and look at. But, at the end, most of them will end up with a regular "yazmin" or typical girl with all or most qualities they look for in a wife. Now, some of the luckiest guys can find all these qualities in a tall blonde..

Quoting qdemir:

The vital question that needs a satisfying answer: why does a married man who is 'happy' at home need to watch porn?

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The vital question that needs a satisfying answer: why does a married man who is 'happy' at home need to watch porn?

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I ask myself that question everyday. There is a rap song (many perhaps) which says "we want a lady in the street but a freak in the bed". I think that speaks for the way many many man think (sadly including my husband).

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Quoting Trudy:

Quoting qdemir:

Trudy, have you read 'Animal Husbandry' by Laura Zigman? I agree with the author to some extent.

Quoting aenigma x:

With regard to porn, I can only repeat what I believe, that men are sexually aroused by what they SEE, women are aroused by what they hear and feel, which accounts for the unsuccessful attempts to produce porn for women.

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting aenigma x:

Women do not (in general) get as aroused by a picture of a naked male, for example, as a male gets aroused by a picture of a naked female.

Quoting aenigma x:

I didn't say it happened by nature, but only that statistics show that women prefer literature to images

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting catwoman:

'Have you ever noticed that theories of the inherent differences between men and women conflict with each other? For example, people will say that men are more 'visual,' but then say that men don't care about things like decorating and clothes? Or that men are more competent at math, science, and everything intellectual or important, but completely oafish and incapable when it comes to simple tasks such as changing a diaper?'

Pilgrim for Peace

Quoting MrX67:

God created women and men not for rivalary,just for complete each other

Quoting jenk:

summi,
you sound like no men ever looks at blonde beautiful women in your country. Then men in your country either have different sexual orientation or must have a genetic disease disabling their testosterone productions..
Another question. How would you feel if men ever don't look/stare at you? Wouldn't that be depressing when you feel you are not attracted to men? Or is there something else with you that makes you hate being stared at by men!?? If you feel that information would be private, then don't worry we would still understand. Private is always private..

How do you know that women never stare at men?
and is there something wrong with that?.. No i don't think so. Men would love to be starred at by women. I would , as a man, personally feel much better when women stare at me.
Am I being a pervert here or just being honest by saying all these??

well, you seem to be young. My recommendation would be
enjoy your hormones while you can. Life is short

Quoting libralady:

If I stare at a man, I make sure I am wearing sun-glasses

Quoting gezbelle:

Quoting aenigma x:

With regard to porn, I can only repeat what I believe, that men are sexually aroused by what they SEE, women are aroused by what they hear and feel, which accounts for the unsuccessful attempts to produce porn for women.