Quoting Cacık:

I think that if a person wants to cover up, they should be allowed to do so. But in all my experience here and abroad, it is those covering up that do not respect other ways of life. I have found that there are millions of lovely open-minded Turks, male and female, who strongly believe in the freedom of choice. But the overwhelming majority of covered up people say they believe in freedom, so long as it is there view of freedom.

As you say AEgnima, why is it in this area of the world, that women are always the focus of the blame ? Walk into any street here and see the 'sons' glaring at women, smoking, drinking, using bad language, but of course, it is fine for them because they are MEN !!!!

No woman (or man) EVER deserves to be punished for falling in love, desiring to wear a pair of jeans or anything else.

ANYWAY - I THOUGHT RELIGIOUS TALK ON THIS SITE WAS [U]BANNED][/B] :-S

Quoting kat007:

Quoting kat007:

RE: No woman (or man) EVER deserves to be punished for falling in love, desiring to wear a pair of jeans or anything else.

I agree with you.

Quoting AEnigma III:

I dont understand your point Yes, I used the phrase "cover" meaning cover parts of the body. I have no misconception of hijab :-S

Canli, as I said, I respect religion but not hypocracy. I am not criticising hijab (where did you think that?) I am saying that it is unfair to call women in Istanbul "bad muslims", without criticising the men as well.

That is ALL I said.
ANyway, let the "debate" continue, I wont be joining you.

Quoting CANLI:

Heyyyy,heyyy,as i remembered in another thread,you were mixed up between Hijab and Niqab,so i posted a link for you to show you how we dress up wearing Hijab

And i agree with you about what you say too,who said im objecting ?!

Quoting AEnigma III:

ANyway, let the "debate" continue, I wont be joining you.

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

Hun,i did not accuse you of anything
İ know you try to understand too as many of us do,and i didnt mean you by the term 'Covered people' i wasnt addressing you too
Because i understand what you mean,that is why i posted the link,because i remember you asked about it before

And we debat,we talk so we dont have any offensive terms between us generaly not in here only
We try to understand eachother for that.

İm sorry if you got me wrong,i didnt mean it as you got it

Quoting AEnigma III:

Elham dont use this as an excuse to demonstrate intolerance to headscarfs. This is about hyprocracy.

Do you think its fair to criticise women in Istanbul and say they are bad muslims because they don't cover themselves, but fail to mention the men who drink, smoke, dont go to mosque etc?

Is that fair?