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Armenian Tashnak Party: 'Armenian territories' will come off Turkey sooner or later
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130.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 12:44 am

Quoting AlphaF:

Check the role of US in Armenian rebellion against the OTTOMAN Empire...around year 1915.
Ask yourself why.
See if there are similarities between what US did then, and what US is trying to do now...



When your ecomony is in the fore front and you can speak freely with out imprisonment, then talk to me..

131.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 12:45 am

Quoting teaschip1:

Your right it is sooo last year and that's what some Turks would like it to remain... Oh well, if it is factual I at least feel my cruisade was worth it along with 19 other countries...



I might have known you would take the "party" line. What gives the US World Police the right to think they can "declare" something genocide or not anyway?

132.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 12:52 am

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting teaschip1:

Your right it is sooo last year and that's what some Turks would like it to remain... Oh well, if it is factual I at least feel my cruisade was worth it along with 19 other countries...



I might have known you would take the "party" line. What gives the US World Police the right to think they can "declare" something genocide or not anyway?



The same right we have to invade Iraq......Now let's discuss a more important topic like dudus.......shall we?

133.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 12:58 am

Remember you tried invading Vietnam too...The fat lady in Iraq did not sing yet...

Operation Armenia in 1915 was not a success either...

Check up what happened in Korea...Had Turks not protected your back, you could hardly recover enough to sit down by now.

And do not think the Japanese forgot the bomb... They will get even, if not militarily - economically.

134.       mylo
856 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 01:01 am

Quoting AlphaF:

Remember you tried invading Vietnam too...The fat lady in Iraq did not sing yet...


She did and she's saying get the f"""" out of my country,nobody heard her too many bullets flying around))))))

135.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 01:03 am

Quoting AlphaF:

Remember you tried invading Vietnam too...The fat lady in Iraq did not sing yet...



You missed the welcome home party for all the Vets too.

136.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 01:04 am

Quoting mylo:

Quoting AlphaF:

Remember you tried invading Vietnam too...The fat lady in Iraq did not sing yet...


She did and she's saying get the f"""" out of my country,nobody heard her too many bullets flying around))))))



So are we!

137.       mylo
856 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 01:08 am

Uncle George W would be so hurt,How is his foundation for the bereaved going on?

138.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 01:09 am

She can have Eastern Turkey, if she is ready to pay the price Turks paid for it...

No use looking for French or American help...They usually desert at critical moments.

139.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 01:52 am

The origins and nature of relations between Moslems, Jews, and Christians - who shared Anatolia in peace for centuries is very complex...neither shallow minded greedy neocons of USA today can understand it, nor can the problems that arose later be explained in black and white terms.

I will give you guys a hint (only a hint, no more) Those who would like to understand the relation better, will have to follow the hint.

The founder of Ottoman Empire is Osman Bey.The first capital of the Empire is a small village called Sogut. When Osman Bey sat down in front of his tent, in the just acquired capital of this new Empire, he had two well tried and trusted friends with him. One was called Tekin Alp, the other was named Sari Saltuk (also known as Koca Saltuk).

My research into detailed identities of these two friends, led me to very interesting theories that I can not really prove.

The resarch itself was a lot of fun..but the secrets therein, if any, will be only for those who take the trouble to search them, themselves.

140.       vineyards
1954 posts
 28 Nov 2007 Wed 03:55 am

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting AlphaF:

Check the role of US in Armenian rebellion against the OTTOMAN Empire...around year 1915.
Ask yourself why.
See if there are similarities between what US did then, and what US is trying to do now...



When your ecomony is in the fore front and you can speak freely with out imprisonment, then talk to me..



Do you ever read human rights violations reports? Did you know that your mighty country has also a mighty big file there? In the past, many bad things happened to those defending unwelcome causes and many of those bad things happened in your country. We are now looking to leave the sins of the past behind us. Turkey has achieved a great deal in that department. We often criticize the US because we feel that the going is the other way around there.

As for our economy's being not so forefront- you are right; we might as well be called a banana republic compared to the US. Your economy is not doing well either but you don't feel it. Your government keeps you in a fool's paradise that runs on money coming from outside the US in the form of cheap Chinese labour, cheap production in the third world where nature is recklessly deranged by polluting industries and oil patronage. Being a superpower you have every right to drain the resources of the world to the limits. Did you know that the US (correct me if I am wrong) is the only country that hasn't signed the Kyoto protocol. It seems American people are happy burning hell a lot of gas in their 5 liter engine cars at 1 dollar a gallon and will happily invade any country that stands in the way.

You may call this a priority enjoyed by a superpower. I will stick with human rights, equality both for my own country and for all the other countries in the world. I will continue to believe that there must be integrity in all spheres of life and that includes politics.

Now tell me, how much do you care about the Iraqi people who have lost their lives since the beginning of this war? Is this bashing, name calling or what? Let me answer my own question: we are not bashing anyone here but before you childishly accuse a nation of a genocide, remember objectivity and also be man (in your case woman) enough to acknowledge the mistakes of your own government.

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