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Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 01:46 am |
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 12:50 pm |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/7011120.stm
Everybody is suing everybody for anything they can get - she has no right to sue the hairdresser. Would you visit a dentist who had bad teeth, would you buy a product you were not able to see, would you buy a tattoo from an artist who refused to show you his/her own tattoos or work - I think the answer is no.
This is another time-waster of the courts and tax-payers money.
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 02:02 pm |
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This is a very convincing
Isn't it remarkable how headscarves always bring all the anti-Muslims out in droves? Maybe they can explain:
1.) Why they think a person cannot have a personal attitude to modesty/behaviour and at the same time interact with those of a different view? For example, would they demand that teetotallers be banned from doing bar work?
2.) If they would refuse to hire bald/balding men as barbers/stylists?
3.) If they think women have less imagination than men, and thus cannot have their hair styled without an 'example' in front of them?
4.) If they believe women can only go to stylists who have exactly the same style that they want to have?
5.) If they think women are so dumb they do not realise that the stylist serving them did not actually style her own hair?
6.) If they would sack a woman stylist if she lost her
hair during cancer chemotherapy, on the grounds that she could no longer fulfil an 'absolutely basic' job requirement?
7.) If they would apply such standards to other professions, e.g. only employ women in the fashion industry who are physically 'perfect', i.e. ban the disabled. If you must see hair in order to have your own styled, by the same logic you must see people with two arms and two legs in order to imagine yourself in their clothes.
The one point that the owner of the hair salon did not clear up was if the person suing her had been given a chance to actually style some hair, to see if she was any good. Failing to do so was simply wrong.
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 02:17 pm |
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Quoting elham: Isn't it remarkable how headscarves always bring all the anti-Muslims out in droves? Maybe they can explain: |
Hi Elham - firstly thanks for calling me an anti-Muslim. Isn't also amazing that you consider all who think that time-wasters of tax-payers money and court time are naturally anti-Muslim. I could care whether this girl was Muslim or Hindu, Christian or Jewish, the fact remains that many jobs require certain things, and in this world too many people are jumping to sue when they think anything is against them. Let me ask you what would happen then if I, non-covered person were to ask for a job in a place that requires me the wear a headscarf, would I have any chance in court fighting against it - probably not. Secondly I would not even go for the job because I know it would be pointless.
Secondly, many of my closest and dearest friends and family are Muslims (and many I might add being covered ladies whom I love) and I love them deeply and unconditionally and have a very good understanding of their values and thoughts as do they of me and mine. Many times their viewpoints are no different to mine.
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 02:38 pm |
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Quoting elham: Isn't it remarkable how headscarves always bring all the anti-Muslims out in droves? |
For my part, my objection to headscarves is not because I am anti-Muslim. The headscarf is a symbol of the way muslim women are treated as possessions and second class citizens. Whatever you tell me about the Quran, I will never be convinced that this is anything but man's jealousy.
As to the topic, how much confidence would you have in letting someone style your hair who covers HER OWN HAIR!!!
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 02:43 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting elham: Isn't it remarkable how headscarves always bring all the anti-Muslims out in droves? |
For my part, my objection to headscarves is not because I am anti-Muslim. The headscarf is a symbol of the way muslim women are treated as possessions and second class citizens. Whatever you tell me about the Quran, I will never be convinced that this is anything but man's jealousy.
As to the topic, how much confidence would you have in letting someone style your hair who covers HER OWN HAIR!!! |
what if they are wearing headscarves willingly?
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 03:09 pm |
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Quoting ciko: what if they are wearing headscarves willingly? |
Of course most women wear them willingly. They have been brought up with this culture and they accept it.
Does it make it right?
It's not about muslims only, I have the same revulsion for any culture where women willingly (or unwillingly) accept a lesser role and are treated like slaves. The USA have some great ones...Quakers, Plymouth Brethren, Mormons....
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 03:16 pm |
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does wearing headscarf make woman a slave or second class citizen? i disagree with you..most of them wear it because they think quran orders to wear it..not because of men.
but i would not wear headscarf if i were a woman because it differentiates you to other people..do men wear anything like that? no!! 
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 03:23 pm |
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Quoting ciko: does wearing headscarf make woman a slave or second class citizen? i disagree with you..most of them wear it because they think quran orders to wear it..not because of men. |
I dont think you will EVER understand the point I am making! WHY SHOULD a women have to cover herself, but not a man? Because it is in the Quran? Mohammad was a man no?
It seems that men have selective memory when talking about the Quran. I believe it says that they should remain virgins also until marriage, that they should never drink alcohol?
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05 Dec 2007 Wed 03:28 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting ciko: does wearing headscarf make woman a slave or second class citizen? i disagree with you..most of them wear it because they think quran orders to wear it..not because of men. |
I dont think you will EVER understand the point I am making! WHY SHOULD a women have to cover herself, but not a man? Because it is in the Quran? Mohammad was a man no? |
offffffff read my post again aenigma i agree with you..it is nonsense to wear heascarf..yes but i am saying to wear headscarf doesnt make a woman second class human or a slave..i dont think you will ever understand the point i am making
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