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Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 07:59 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: I truely appreciate what you are saying Azade. However, why are the rights of this woman more important than the rights of the shop owner to hire who he/she wants? If this is not an image they want protrayed in this salon, why should he/she be forced to hire her just to avoid a lawsuit? Maybe she was a crappy hairdresser...did anyone think of that? Maybe the shop owner found someone more qualified and this woman is assuming that she wasn't hired because of her veil. People are very quick to cry descrimination. I have been thru this before in my professional life. I was accused of denying benefits to a Muslim man. It did not matter that he did not meet the criteria for this particular benefit...he just assumed it was because he was Muslim. Strangly enough, as soon as he learned that my husband is Muslim....his tune changed a little....and he apologized. WOW...all of a sudden I am not decriminating against him!! |
I agree with you Elizabeth and find it ridiculous that people sue eachother for petty things or use discrimination as an excuse when they can't find no other. Also it's up to the employer who they want to hire but in this case it seems (to me anyway, that's what I based my post on) that the woman was rejected only because of her headcovering, but none of us can really judge that.
But in general I strongly believe that no one should be denied a job they qualify because of the way they look.
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 08:57 pm |
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Quoting azade: But in general I strongly believe that no one should be denied a job they qualify because of the way they look. |
I seem to recall a photo of you wearing a headscarf once Azade. Do you play at being muslim or have you converted? 
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 08:59 pm |
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Quoting azade:
But in general I strongly believe that no one should be denied a job they qualify because of the way they look. |
one thing to add here, fine, no one should discriminate anyone on the grounds of belief/race.
but as an employer i wouldnt want to hire a lady who would want to work for in bikini.
does it count for you as a contra argument (to bolded)?
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:03 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting azade:
But in general I strongly believe that no one should be denied a job they qualify because of the way they look. |
one thing to add here, fine, no one should discriminate anyone on the grounds of belief/race.
but as an employer i wouldnt want to hire a lady who would want to work for in bikini.
does it count for you as a contra argument (to bolded)? |
Exactly...good point Femme. Every job has a dress code...and any employer has the right to set the dress code that they deem appropriate.
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:09 pm |
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to my feelings and beliefs i want to wear loose baggy pants at work, but they tell me to wear white shirt and black skirt 
f... managers!
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:11 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: to my feelings and beliefs i want to wear loose baggy pants at work, but they tell me to wear white shirt and black skirt
f... managers! |
I think you should file a lawsuit! What does this company have against green? red? yellow? ect...
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:11 pm |
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Quoting azade: Quoting Elisabeth: I truely appreciate what you are saying Azade. However, why are the rights of this woman more important than the rights of the shop owner to hire who he/she wants? If this is not an image they want protrayed in this salon, why should he/she be forced to hire her just to avoid a lawsuit? Maybe she was a crappy hairdresser...did anyone think of that? Maybe the shop owner found someone more qualified and this woman is assuming that she wasn't hired because of her veil. People are very quick to cry descrimination. I have been thru this before in my professional life. I was accused of denying benefits to a Muslim man. It did not matter that he did not meet the criteria for this particular benefit...he just assumed it was because he was Muslim. Strangly enough, as soon as he learned that my husband is Muslim....his tune changed a little....and he apologized. WOW...all of a sudden I am not decriminating against him!! |
I agree with you Elizabeth and find it ridiculous that people sue eachother for petty things or use discrimination as an excuse when they can't find no other. Also it's up to the employer who they want to hire but in this case it seems (to me anyway, that's what I based my post on) that the woman was rejected only because of her headcovering, but none of us can really judge that.
But in general I strongly believe that no one should be denied a job they qualify because of the way they look. |
So, are you saying if you were an employer who's business was to sell makeup, you would hire a woman who wasn't groomed well and had a bad complection. Sure, this is the sales person who's going to make me money. Come on, in this world like or not we do go by appearance and if someone shows up for an interview with me in a tank top, gym shoes and holes in their jeans, I definately would not be impressed.
However, there are jobs that do not require appearance or looks as a basis to hire someone. But we are talking about a salon, where appearance is their business. It looks like the owner made a good decision afterall. She was a lawsuit waiting to happen...and ironically enough it did!
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:13 pm |
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Despite all the HR training companies go through, apparently we make up our minds when interviewing someone in the FIRST 30 SECONDS!!!! It is also a fact that beautiful people have more successful careers...
Who says appearence does not matter!
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:16 pm |
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My job is in healthcare administration. At one point in time, I was interviewing a nun who was also a nurse. I told her that if she wanted to work here, she would be required to remove her habit. She did....no lawsuit, no arguement. She understood that employment was conditional to her adhering to certain rules that everyone at this facility must abide by. Funny how some people think the rules don't apply to them.
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:18 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Despite all the HR training companies go through, apparently we make up our minds when interviewing someone in the FIRST 30 SECONDS!!!! It is also a fact that beautiful people have more successful careers...
Who says appearence does not matter! |
 GOD why dont i look like JLO? why? 
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