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Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf
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90.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:18 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Despite all the HR training companies go through, apparently we make up our minds when interviewing someone in the FIRST 30 SECONDS!!!! It is also a fact that beautiful people have more successful careers...

Who says appearence does not matter!


GOD why dont i look like JLO? why?

91.       teaschip
3870 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:20 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Despite all the HR training companies go through, apparently we make up our minds when interviewing someone in the FIRST 30 SECONDS!!!! It is also a fact that beautiful people have more successful careers...

Who says appearence does not matter!


GOD why dont i look like JLO? why?



You want your bottom and lips plumper? Ooh and her husband, come on JLOW.

92.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:28 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Despite all the HR training companies go through, apparently we make up our minds when interviewing someone in the FIRST 30 SECONDS!!!! It is also a fact that beautiful people have more successful careers...

Who says appearence does not matter!



Beauty is power....I see it all the time. I have never met an ugly female CEO....it is just the truth. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen too many ugly male CEOs, but they seem to be able to get to their positions later in life whereas women need to make it by the time they are 40.

93.       teaschip
3870 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:34 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Despite all the HR training companies go through, apparently we make up our minds when interviewing someone in the FIRST 30 SECONDS!!!! It is also a fact that beautiful people have more successful careers...

Who says appearence does not matter!



Beauty is power....I see it all the time. I have never met an ugly female CEO....it is just the truth. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen too many ugly male CEOs, but they seem to be able to get to their positions later in life whereas women need to make it by the time they are 40.



Hopefully she's not reading this, rare exception to the rule however, my companies CEO is UGLY! Although her personality is like a man's, she acts like she is part of the good old boys club, quite disgusting. Then you have women who do have power, that are intimidated by women who do have good looks.

94.       azade
1606 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 10:01 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting azade:


But in general I strongly believe that no one should be denied a job they qualify because of the way they look.


one thing to add here, fine, no one should discriminate anyone on the grounds of belief/race.
but as an employer i wouldnt want to hire a lady who would want to work for in bikini.
does it count for you as a contra argument (to bolded)?



There is a huge difference between a bikini and a hijab. I can't see how those can be compared?

Quoting teaschip1:



So, are you saying if you were an employer who's business was to sell makeup, you would hire a woman who wasn't groomed well and had a bad complection. Sure, this is the sales person who's going to make me money. Come on, in this world like or not we do go by appearance and if someone shows up for an interview with me in a tank top, gym shoes and holes in their jeans, I definately would not be impressed.

However, there are jobs that do not require appearance or looks as a basis to hire someone. But we are talking about a salon, where appearance is their business. It looks like the owner made a good decision afterall. She was a lawsuit waiting to happen...and ironically enough it did!



I get your point, there is a little bit of discrimination everywhere. As with your example, as a customer I still wouldn't care about what the sales person looks like but I also know there is a lot of people who disagree. Each to their own.
On the topic of hair salons all I can say is a hijabi cut and set my hair and it was gorgeous

All that has been said about beauty in the last posts is the reason that some women chose to put on a hijab.

95.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 10:09 pm

Quoting azade:


There is a huge difference between a bikini and a hijab. I can't see how those can be compared?


yes, one is almost naked, the other is almost covered.
whatever, i wouldnt want to hire: bikini, hijab, burka, a girl with a crown on her head, anyone wearing a mask of a clown etc etc.

SAY NO HIJAB!!!
NO TO HIJAB!
NO TO BURKA!
NO TO WOMAN ABUSE!
NO TO BACKWARD TRADITIONS/RELIGIONS!!!!

96.       azade
1606 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 10:12 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting azade:


There is a huge difference between a bikini and a hijab. I can't see how those can be compared?


yes, one is almost naked, the other is almost covered.
whatever, i wouldnt want to hire: bikini, hijab, burka, a girl with a crown on her head, anyone wearing a mask of a clown etc etc.

SAY NO HIJAB!!!
NO TO HIJAB!
NO TO BURKA!
NO TO WOMAN ABUSE!
NO TO BACKWARD TRADITIONS/RELIGIONS!!!!



Well I knew you were going to throw something like this and it's also the reason I didn't elaborate more, because you're never going to change your view and I'm never going to change mine. We've been through one too many discussions on this forum on this matter, even though it's prohibited.

97.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 10:24 pm

It wouldn't be much fun without these discussions. I enjoy hearing different points of view even if I am at odds with them, in fact the more opposed I am to them, the more interesting I find it.

98.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 10:28 pm

Quoting azade:


Well I knew you were going to throw something like this and it's also the reason I didn't elaborate more, because you're never going to change your view and I'm never going to change mine. We've been through one too many discussions on this forum on this matter, even though it's prohibited.


azade, you are completely heartless to the opressed women of east, why would you show your compassion to them? anyway you are just guest to the east, right? you are also a guest to the religion. you wouldnt allow yourself completely ruled by the opressing customs, would you?

99.       azade
1606 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 10:43 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

It wouldn't be much fun without these discussions. I enjoy hearing different points of view even if I am at odds with them, in fact the more opposed I am to them, the more interesting I find it.



As long as we don't listen to eachother or try to be openminded it's really tiring to throw the same slogans at eachother every time so I'm gonna fold. Now if anyone had anything new to bring to the table that would be something else

100.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 10:45 pm

Quoting azade:

Quoting Elisabeth:

It wouldn't be much fun without these discussions. I enjoy hearing different points of view even if I am at odds with them, in fact the more opposed I am to them, the more interesting I find it.



As long as we don't listen to eachother or try to be openminded it's really tiring to throw the same slogans at eachother every time so I'm gonna fold. Now if anyone had anything new to bring to the table that would be something else


what interesting thing you brought to the table, azade?

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