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Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf
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30.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:02 am

Replies I have receivd to my question indicate that either you are all below the age of 18, or you are all adults who do not possess the philosophical depth to discuss such issues.

I shall keep quiet about nature's secrets, until a mature audience is available...

31.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:07 am

A man can't be a feminist, he can't argue with a feminist nor can he be in the same line of thinking with a feminist because feminism is a camp designed by and for women where they can fight for their own cause.

If a woman states that she is a feminist and that she protests legal/traditional sexual discrimination in society, I would consider her reaction as a sociological phenomenon and I would categorize it alongside the unfair treatment she is subjected to which is another sociological phenomenon. I would probably conclude that neither of those problem categories could be solved by punishing one of the sexes or applying restrictions on it.

We know that independence is won by fighting, peace is achieved by shedding blood and oppressive regimes are overthrown at the expense of countless innocent people. Once the objective is reached fighting subsides and life runs normally. As a matter of fact, some aspects of the feminist movement is reminiscient of all the aforementioned. Therefore it is more on the side of being an anomaly serving a purpose in a period of transition. Nevertheless, this transition is age long and it is still nowhere close to satisfying related needs in society.

By way of reasoning, feminist women and especially those who are male haters or those who are overly aggressive toward the other sex do not behave the way a benign individual would. Her anger causes her to develop a dysfunction that affects her relations with other individuals. Add to that the charecteristic obsessive attitude of feminists and their selective interests in certain matters and you will end up with a problematic personality who is impossible to get along with.



32.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:19 am

Being a feminist is not about being a man-hater. You assume that feminism is all I can think about?! The fact is that this site is one of the main places where I see mysogynism, so I have to comment! If I saw racism I would comment too - it does not mean I am obsessed with it.

I really fail to see how you can find so many problems with feminism but make no comment about the video clips posted earlier regarding Saudi men and their discrimination towards women.

33.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:26 am

Well let me say something about those Saudis: they can't be humans! They have a barbaric culture, they oppress women and blatantly violate not only the rights of women but human rights as a whole. Have you ever asked yourself how come they can do all this so openly? There are so many different stories in it and many of them are linked to the civilized part of the world.

Anyway, coming back to our original discussion, I did not direct that post to you exclusively. It just sums my idea about feminism and that's all.

If I needed an example maybe I would chose catwoman. She is way more feministic than you and God knows I feel sorry for her.

34.       zettea
160 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:33 am

Feminism is the result of oppression.

Wearing headscarf is not oppression.

Anything that is done willingly is not oppression. It's Freedom. It's Human Rights.

By the way, in islam, men have a dressing code to abide too.. not just women. The equity in Islam. Read & Learn before critisizing.

35.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:34 am

How do you defend Islamic states and their "equality" to women zettea?

36.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:41 am

When you enter a SAUDIA plane from Riyadh Airport, all Saudi ladies are attired in their black outfits and veils.

By the time the plane lands in Istanbul, you can not find a single lady in black.

Exactly the reverse happens on the flights from Istanbul to Riyadh.

I figure something eats all the SAUDI ladies in black on the planes to Istanbul, than gorges them back out on the return flights. during the 3.5 hour flight.

What do you think?

37.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:45 am

I used to organise conferences for the oil industry. It was an amazing event with delegates from all over the world.

We used to notice a very strange trend. Year after year, who were the ones in the bars at 3pm, drunk and asking the staff where they could get prostitutes?

Ahh yes, the muslim delegates.

Clearly Allah does not see what happens in the UK....(or Turkey, if Alpha's post is anything to go by )

38.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:51 am

Quoting AEnigma III:


We used to notice a very strange trend. Year after year, who were the ones in the bars at 3pm, drunk and asking the staff where they could get prostitutes?


so do you know where you can get those then? Any phone numbers?
lol

39.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:52 am

Quoting thehandsom:

so do you know where you can get those then? Any phone number?
lol



Yes! Call the government of Turkey! They run their own lol lol lol

40.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 01:52 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting AEnigma III:


We used to notice a very strange trend. Year after year, who were the ones in the bars at 3pm, drunk and asking the staff where they could get prostitutes?


so do you know where you can get those then? Any phone numbers?
lol


I mean for our guests of course..

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