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09 Jan 2008 Wed 06:00 am |
‘Headscarf still an issue,' Parliament speaker says
Speaker of Parliament Köksal Toptan has said the headscarf issue remains a social problem, saying that it should cease to be on the agenda and must be resolved as soon as possible and once and for all.
Toptan was answering questions from the press upon his arrival at the Ankara Chamber of Commerce's (ATO) conference hall to attend a meeting sponsored by the Turkish Association of Agriculture (TZD). Toptan stressed that the headscarf was still a social problem and that it had to be settled immediately one way or another. "Technically speaking, I don't think it can be resolved through a change in the constitution, but since it stands out as a social problem, it should cease to be on Turkey's agenda," he said.
In response to questions on the notorious Article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code (TCK), Toptan said: "It is apparent that it is the Turkish citizens who are implied in the phrase 'Turkishness' in Article 301. It is obvious that we cannot possibly file any lawsuits in connection with an insult hurled at people of Turkish origin who live outside of Turkey. The government is working on this issue. Once it is finished and submitted to Parliament, the optimal steps will be taken. But let me say this: The hypothesis that 'articles similar to 301 exist in the constitutions of all European countries, but are not enforced' is not true. It is enforced in all of them, and the number of cases is far higher than in Turkey, as a matter of fact. But we should also admit that we have had problems from early on since the passage of this article. Maybe an amendment of this article will lessen the practices based on it."
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 06:54 am |
I would think members of the Turkish Parliment would have much better things to be concerned with! What an ridiculous waste of time and resources. Here's an idea...letwomen make their own decisions about this issue!
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 08:28 am |
Quoting girleegirl: I would think members of the Turkish Parliment would have much better things to be concerned with! What an ridiculous waste of time and resources. Here's an idea...letwomen make their own decisions about this issue!
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Hahahah, you're kidding me? Women shouldn't decide on such important issues on their own, god forbid, they might leave Islam altogether!
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 08:38 am |
Quoting catwoman:
Hahahah, you're kidding me? Women shouldn't decide on such important issues on their own, god forbid, they might leave Islam altogether! |
Of course I am kidding...what do I know? I am just a stupid western woman!
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 10:08 am |
Quoting girleegirl: I would think members of the Turkish Parliment would have much better things to be concerned with! What an ridiculous waste of time and resources. Here's an idea...letwomen make their own decisions about this issue!
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i agree that women should make thier own decisions about this isssue, i know this is so sensitive islamic issue but to me the relation between any person and god is so private and only god can forgive or punish, so humans should stay away and try to stop making rules about religion for people, the islam is so clear as allah said in holy quran in albagara's sura (the cow sura):
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
"2.256": There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah(god) he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing."
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 10:18 am |
Quoting catwoman: Quoting girleegirl: I would think members of the Turkish Parliment would have much better things to be concerned with! What an ridiculous waste of time and resources. Here's an idea...letwomen make their own decisions about this issue!
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Hahahah, you're kidding me? Women shouldn't decide on such important issues on their own, god forbid, they might leave Islam altogether! |
dear catwoman i guess you are little wrong not all woman would leave islam, for me i will never leave it even if they turned me to peices. .
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 01:47 pm |
What I hate about religions (at least those with long traditions), apart from the fact that they seem a mass brain-washing, is that they are based on patriarchal system of values. It is men who tell women whether she may or may not wear a scarf, it is men who tell women she cannot have an abortion...Let women decide for themselves, who gives you the right to know better!
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 02:21 pm |
But seems some women like to talk for other women even if their men don't decide about their decissions,a bit more tolerance and a bit more respect,thats the best fix...Sure there r planty reasons of that problem and sure all headscarfed girls or women don't do that with their free willing,but i think we forget planty women who do that with their free wiling just as a part of their beliefs,you will defend democracy when its good for you,but you will deny some freedoms when seems danger for you,such a big paradox.We all have to respect all sort freedoms ''in limits'',unless doesn't give any harm to social and world peace..
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 04:43 pm |
The only people create this as a problem yet again the politicians, other higher state managers of Turkey.
There is no problem with the society.. there are people who wear and there are poeple doesnt...
its just holding the society busy with this topic and see whats going on behind of what they are doing...
the problem is that... woman who wears headscarf cannot enter some public areas especially to schools...
the problem is not that if they can decide theirselves or not...
for true analysis.. you have to buy your tickets and travel all around turkey and ask every single woman wears headscarf 'why are you using this?'... and then you can understand whats the reality...
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09 Jan 2008 Wed 04:49 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: The only people create this as a problem yet again the politicians, other higher state managers of Turkey.
There is no problem with the society.. there are people who wear and there are poeple doesnt...
its just holding the society busy with this topic and see whats going on behind of what they are doing...
the problem is that... woman who wears headscarf cannot enter some public areas especially to schools...
the problem is not that if they can decide theirselves or not...
for true analysis.. you have to buy your tickets and travel all around turkey and ask every single woman wears headscarf 'why are you using this?'... and then you can understand whats the reality... |
Even then i think you would come up with more questions than answers.
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