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31 Jan 2008 Thu 02:44 am |
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This is a turban 
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 02:46 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: I have no issues with idea that uncommon words and forced elegant language being in use for difficult ideas. But when the idea is sooo common that you could find almost the same in turkish coffee houses for retired men (emekliler kiraathanesi is the turkish name for it), you immediatly think that 'OMG what the heck is this.Sooo fake. Sorry but nothing hides away the cheapness of it.
I would rather prefer listen that idea from the common man with his own words.
Sorry really..
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It is no problem, I understand your opinion and accept your criticism as being told frankly.
do not forget i wanted to speak clearly, and that some socio-philosophical (i think) terms were used such as personal freedom and freedom of speech.
As for the coffee houses, i enjoy talking and drinking coffee.
Which i would have done in this case also, lest that the way this post was lead and Deli Kizin's hesitative replies have not determined me into an answer. Should this be a starting point into an another discussion, here i am.
Very short and pragmatic, i prefer the emekliler kiraathanesi (thank you for the turkish term . A nice tavla, coffee (unless pregnant  ) and a nice chat (in romanian there is the expression o vorba cinstita - an honest (literally translation, meaning coming from the heart-sincere, ... the way there are the talks in this place) talk.
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 02:49 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting thehandsom: I would rather prefer listen that idea from the common man with his own words.
Sorry really..
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Well, then be happy for all the women here  We cant walk into these coffee houses, so all we get is to hear the cheaptalk from here!
Hey garson, a tavla and a kahve please |
i am slow in answers dammit! 
Actually it is my luck to. i do not turn into kirmizi biber. 
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 02:51 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting portokal: where is the proposing one? |
Somewhere making a fool of himself?  |
yes and no.
yes, if we look at the fact he is not here , no if we look at the fact that maybe he has done it like this for me.
then i am making a fool of myself .
which opens more problems. he would not feel comfortable with it. i would not feel comfortable with his uncomfort (lack of comfort/non-comfort :head_bang.
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 02:52 am |
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Quoting adonis: wearing turban is not related to Islam. |
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 03:00 am |
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Quoting portokal: Quoting adonis: wearing turban is not related to Islam. |
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damn it.
it was no need for this.
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 03:09 am |
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Quoting portokal:
It is no problem, I understand your opinion and accept your criticism as being told frankly.
do not forget i wanted to speak clearly, and that some socio-philosophical (i think) terms were used such as personal freedom and freedom of speech. |
haha.
Of course it is personal freedom and personal speech. Ama, some socio-philosophical terms being used to express very common ideas is just a bit tacky and cheap according to me.
Reminding me gilded copper. That is all.
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 03:13 am |
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where is my message in turkish? i can't see it now.
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 03:21 am |
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Quoting portokal:
AlphaF, I disagree with the way you lead (by questions) your discussions with Deli Kizin because I think it is sometimes harder to learn this way, because this method is dual, either cristalize, or confuses even more, not according attention to the undesired mistakes in thinking and aiming to find eventual hidden tendencies as being hided, but true.
This is the method I would use for a candidate at an interview, a selection, for example. Aiming to find out what a person actually desires, but not aiming at the fact that a person maybe desires/needs a healthier way of thinking. The latter can be practiced along with illogical realms such as jokes. |
AlphaF
sorry for the unproper formulation. i am rather uneducated, which after a certain age transforms into lack of manners.
what i was disagreeing with is the fact i know form experiments... that thoughts influence the outcome of discussions.
To Alpha and all other members whom we had this discussion in this thread:
i understand the name of portokalfa is the name given to a mime and not a symbol of something more in which you gave the courtezy to my name to come first.
i also understand a hidden criticism towards my expressing. it is not something i do good (i feel like, and that is because(1.i have my limits,2. i do not want to,3 i am doing it in this thread), not something i should even done. it is not what suits me, nor what i am required to do. i can well refrain from coffee houses. and some other things. i do not need them. it would be a lie to tell you, AlfaF, that this s because of you. no. it is the way i am. sharing your teachings with my inner desires. and this is the best a woman can give. it is called, in a way i think, love.
i can refrain.
even from marrying you i can refrain.
i would not be the fourth wife, isn't it?
i will not refrain from doing what is good and suitable, thus and not only thus pleasant to me.
and i shall let you resolve this short circuit of pain.
because i was wrong in the lack of understanding. it was what i did. not like i mistake.
PS i did not mis-spelled AlphaF, i am sure without looking.
And you, AlphaF, there is a point where i question if you deserve me. not taking in calculation my mistakes.
all this bitterness and doubt you have and what you needed to get over, too. and you did. you now feel it also.
after that point i do not doubt anything.
not even the responsabilities i have or the way i should act.
which would be - if i was to listen to your channel obturations(and tremendous fear of being left), to leave. if it was to my heart only, to listen to your approaches from now on.
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 03:47 am |
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Quoting portokal: Quoting portokal:
AlphaF, I disagree with the way you lead (by questions) your discussions with Deli Kizin because I think it is sometimes harder to learn this way, because this method is dual, either cristalize, or confuses even more, not according attention to the undesired mistakes in thinking and aiming to find eventual hidden tendencies as being hided, but true.
This is the method I would use for a candidate at an interview, a selection, for example. Aiming to find out what a person actually desires, but not aiming at the fact that a person maybe desires/needs a healthier way of thinking. The latter can be practiced along with illogical realms such as jokes. |
sorry for the unproper formulation. i am rather uneducated, which after a certain age transforms into lack of manners.
what i was disagreeing with is the fact i know form experiments... that thoughts influence the outcome of discussions.
To Alpha and all other members whom we had this discussion in this thread:
i understand the name of portokalfa is the name given to a mime and not a symbol of something more in which you gave the courtezy to my name to come first.
i also understand a hidden criticism towards my expressing. it is not something i do good (i feel like, and that is because(1.i have my limits,2. i do not want to,3 i am doing it in this thread), not something i should even done. it is not what suits me, nor what i am required to do. i can well refrain from coffee houses. and some other things. i do not need them. it would be a lie to tell you, AlfaF, that this s because of you. no. it is the way i am. sharing your teachings with my inner desires. and this is the best a woman can give. it is called, in a way i think, love.
i can refrain.
even from marrying you i can refrain.
i would not be the fourth wife, isn't it?
i will not refrain from doing what is good and suitable, thus and not only thus pleasant to me.
and i shall let you resolve this short circuit of pain.
because i was wrong in the lack of understanding. it was what i did. not like i mistake.
PS i did not mis-spelled AlphaF, i am sure without looking.
And you, AlphaF, there is a point where i question if you deserve me. not taking in calculation my mistakes.
all this bitterness and doubt you have and what you needed to get over, too. and you did. you now feel it also.
after that point i do not doubt anything.
not even the responsabilities i have or the way i should act.
which would be - if i was to listen to your channel obturations(and tremendous fear of being left), to leave. if it was to my heart only, to listen to your approaches from now on.
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I am confused (not a difficulty for me )
Did you mean to post your last comment on this thread or was it meant to be a pm? Or perhaps you are teasing? .
I think I need my sleep 
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