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3950.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Sep 2009 Wed 02:25 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

You know what gets my goats about it? Were he a regular John Dąbrowski, he´d have been imprisoned 31 years ago. Since he´s Mr Important Director he spends these 30 years going to film ceremonies, making movies and living his life to the full. For f****´s sake! He had sex with a 13 year old girl. He should be punished for that. Watching Polish tv news and debates (sic! there are numerous debates about whether Switzerland should have arrested him) one may get the impression that it´s an innocent man that the Evil States of America decided to persecute. They say that the girl, well...now a woman...has forgiven him and doesn´t want to press charges, they say that it happened 31 years ago so it should be forgotten, that Polanski had a tough life (spent the WWII in the ghetto and his wife, Sharon Tate got murdered by the Manson´s gang) or that he´s not a regular Dąbrowski but an artist and they have a different sensitivity. Finally, that the girl wasn´t raped because she consented to it.

 

I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.

 

My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they g <[script] src="../../js/tiny_mce/themes/advanced/langs/en.js" type="text/javascript"> ave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)

 

I must say that I completely agree with you..

A rapist is a rapist and he is worse I guess because of the girl´s age..

If you can bare, read the girl´s testimony:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion..t-polanski-did-1794717.html

 

3951.       teaschip
3870 posts
 30 Sep 2009 Wed 05:07 pm

He makes me sick....he pleady guilty and committed the crime he should do the time.  We will just have to see once again if we have two forms of judicial branches...one for the wealthy and one for the everday people.

3952.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 12:00 am

Sorry, TheH but I couldn´t resist:

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

If you can bare, read the girl´s testimony:

 

 

 

Yes, I can bare but I don´t think many people would like to see it lol

3953.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 12:02 am

 

Quoting teaschip

He makes me sick....he pleady guilty and committed the crime he should do the time.  We will just have to see once again if we have two forms of judicial branches...one for the wealthy and one for the everday people.

 

I can´t wait to see the trial, that is if Switzerland sends him to the States. His lawyers are trying to delay things, probably wanting to make a deal with the prosecution in the US

3954.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 12:43 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Sorry, TheH but I couldn´t resist:

 

Yes, I can bare but I don´t think many people would like to see it lol

 

Ohhhhhhh..Gosh.. Roll eyes

DD..

Will you stop playing with my fragile little heart please? Cell phone

 

3955.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 01:02 pm

 

Student throws shoe at IMF chief in Istanbul protest (But misses)

 

 

Security guards dragged the student away as he chanted "get out of the university, thief IMF."

Turkey is hosting the IMF and World Bank annual meetings in Istanbul.


 

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/n...f-in-istanbul-protest.html

 

If Iraqis can do it so can we..

But when are we going to see any of these shoes hitting the target?

3956.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 04:15 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Student throws shoe at IMF chief in Istanbul protest (But misses)

 

 

Security guards dragged the student away as he chanted "get out of the university, thief IMF."

Turkey is hosting the IMF and World Bank annual meetings in Istanbul.


 

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/n...f-in-istanbul-protest.html

 

If Iraqis can do it so can we..

But when are we going to see any of these shoes hitting the target?

 Turkish press is now saying he is a journalist ... and the newsflash is that he has just been released from custody

 

3957.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 04:44 pm

I like the people who throw pies and cakes much better then the people who throw shoes...

3958.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 06:15 pm

 

Student oath is ‘ethnic discrimination,’ says human rights commissioner

..

Thomas Hammarberg, head of the Council of Europe Human Rights Commission, has criticized the phrase “Happy is he who calls himself a Turk,” which is part of the morning oath recited by Turkish primary school students.

 

..the commissioner said the famous phrase amounts to “ethnic discrimination.” The Turkish government responded quickly, saying: “The word ‘Turk’ does not represent an ethnic, linguistic or religious origin; it expresses Turkish citizenship.”

 

Hammarberg said in his report that there are various oaths students are made to chant every day, including another with the line, “I am a Turk and I am proud to be a Turk,” which elevate the ethnic identity over all others. The report said there are 12 to 15 million Kurds in Turkey, alongside 3 million Caucasus pupils, nearly 3 million Roma and around a million Laz, and made the recommendation that Turkey should accept these demographics as “richness.”

 

.... The government also said the term “minority” is defined by the Treaty of Lausanne.

 

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/..discrimination8217-2009-10-01

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This is what we said nearly 2 years ago..

We should have abolished it!!!

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_29075

 



Edited (10/1/2009) by thehandsom

3959.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 06:33 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.

 

My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they gave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)

 

I agree with you...she had no way to consent....not only was she under age, he also drugged the poor thing.  I really feel the girl (now a woman) has been humiliated enough. It´s tragic she has to go through all the publicity again, it´s too bad there isn´t a way to protect her identity.

 

Just because someone is a great artist, does not make them a saint.  How about Leni Riefenstahl?  Nobody can dispute her artistry....maybe it´s more about the victim?  Are female rape victims not important?

 

I can´t believe there is any dispute about the criminality of his action.

3960.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 07:13 pm

Quote:

“I am a Turk and I am proud to be a Turk,”

 

 

So if I´m not a Turk living there..I still have to recite I am a Turk?  Strange..not a good way to embrace multi cultures.

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