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3960.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 07:13 pm

Quote:

“I am a Turk and I am proud to be a Turk,”

 

 

So if I´m not a Turk living there..I still have to recite I am a Turk?  Strange..not a good way to embrace multi cultures.

3961.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 07:27 pm

Fethiye to host bird watching fest 

 

A program of activities and trips have been organized in the popular resort town of Fethiye this weekend, providing exciting opportunities for anyone interested in birds

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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=..009-10-01

 

A bird enthusiast is watching:

 

 

 

 

 

 

3962.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 08:25 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

So if I´m not a Turk living there..I still have to recite I am a Turk?  Strange..not a good way to embrace multi cultures.

 

If you are a citizen of the Republic of Turkey, you are a Turk

 

Citizens of Poland are called Poles....and the Poles are just one tribe of the Slavic tribes of what is now the Polish State....much like many countries took the name of whatever dominante tribe was there...like Germany...and German tribes...

 

IOW...this is much ado about nothing...........

 

3963.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 08:39 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

If you are a citizen of the Republic of Turkey, you are a Turk

 

Citizens of Poland are called Poles....and the Poles are just one tribe of the Slavic tribes of what is now the Polish State....much like many countries took the name of whatever dominante tribe was there...like Germany...and German tribes...

 

IOW...this is much ado about nothing...........

 

 

What are you talking about it?

We have given  70.000 deads over this subject!!!

I explained this 100 times.. 

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT WE, TURKS, SAY "the word Turk refers to a person living in Turkey".

When I say ´Ne mutlu Turkum diyene´, does somebody perceive the word TURK as an ethnic identity?

As a Turk, I am saying "yes". Millions of Kurds are saying "YES".

Turk is an ethnic identity.. Like English, like German, like Kurd etc..

Do you see the dilemma of your self?

Turk is an ethnicity. It is used as an ethnicity almost everywhere, almost in every book.

Our entire ´genesis´ is based on the theory that we TURKS came from central Asia and we are so proud of it!!

Are  you coming up and saying that ´Yes Turk is ethnicity but it is not in that context´?

3964.       _AE_
677 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 08:46 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

IOW...this is much ado about nothing...........

 

 

Pardon my ignorance but what does "IOW" mean?

I keep thinking you are talking about the Isle of Wight!!! lol

 

Hmmmm

"In our world"?

"In oily water"?

"Irrespective of womanisers"?

"Ignorant old women"?

"Imps owe wages"?

 



Edited (10/1/2009) by _AE_

3965.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 09:04 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

Pardon my ignorance but what does "IOW" mean?

I keep thinking you are talking about the Isle of Wight!!! lol

 

Hmmmm

"In our world"?

"In oily water"?

"Irrespective of womanisers"?

"Ignorant old women"?

"Imps owe wages"?

 

 

 In Other Words....although I don´t know anyone accept for Alameda that uses this.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

3966.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 09:04 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

If you are a citizen of the Republic of Turkey, you are a Turk

 

Citizens of Poland are called Poles....and the Poles are just one tribe of the Slavic tribes of what is now the Polish State....much like many countries took the name of whatever dominante tribe was there...like Germany...and German tribes...

 

IOW...this is much ado about nothing...........

 

 Yes, I realize that if you are a citizen..but what if I´m not?  Am I still a Turk?

 

3967.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 10:32 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 Yes, I realize that if you are a citizen..but what if I´m not?  Am I still a Turk?

 

 

Language is filled with these discrepancies......tell me....do you,, or others, consider you Caucasian?

 

...........so what part of the Caucasus are you from?

3968.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 10:33 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 In Other Words....although I don´t know anyone accept for Alameda that uses this.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

my..........you live such a sheltered life....

3969.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Oct 2009 Thu 10:44 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

What are you talking about it?

We have given  70.000 deads over this subject!!!

I explained this 100 times.. 

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT WE, TURKS, SAY "the word Turk refers to a person living in Turkey".

When I say ´Ne mutlu Turkum diyene´, does somebody perceive the word TURK as an ethnic identity?

 

............and a Caucasian is a white person.....????? It´s a pecularity of linguistics....and some exploit it for different reasons.  Maybe we should call countries by numeric formulas?

 

There seems to be a trend now to define countries by a single ethnicity...silly.........nobody is pure anything.....we are all related.

 

If you have not noticed the English have quite a varied look....because they are a mix of different tribes...

same is true of the Germanic groups...Saxons, Teuton, Franks............and on and on..... Then there are the Celts.....

 

You are falling into a trap.....Turk is both a nationality......and an ethnic derivation.............as is a Pole an ethnic derivation and a nationality name....like a Caucasian....and it goes on and on.....you make it a big deal....what do you want to do....rename the country?

3970.       teaschip
3870 posts
 02 Oct 2009 Fri 02:36 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

my..........you live such a sheltered life....

 

I guess this is the new Cali lingo that hasn´t yet hit our area.Big smile

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