I was merely asking a question, not stating any of the things you are indicating. And my question still stands. I asked out of pure curiosity, the language part I added as explanation of my question.

Azade, we are answering you politely. But your posts do suggest a border change. So I don't understand your point.

My question was how many ethnic turks apprx. live in south eastern Turkey. As I said, I don't think there are any whatsoever in the far south east, which is the part I know well. I wonder about other places. haven't been able to find any information about it.

Azade, you should remember that you are as biased as some of the most biased voices here. Yours is a thoroughly a Kurdish perspective.

If any ethnic group dares to establish a nation of their own they must fight a war of independence. In the foundation of all nations there is blood and ours is not an exception.

We are not fools, we have known this cause long enough to realize that Kurds essentially hate Turks, they want their own country, they blame all the problems they suffer on Turks.

Let me try and give you another perspective, most of the problems including economic, social, terror related and cultural alike are indeed caused by our Kurdish citizens.

Here are my reasons:

* They have a feudal, oppressive and primitive culture. Do you think most Kurds grant any rights to their women? What happens when a neighbor sees a woman's hair looking out from a window. News is rushed to the family board and the woman is executed by the most eligible male member of the family.
The dimensions of the male chauvenism is indeed apalling in most Kurdish families. As a woman, if you are raped, you are murdered by your family on account that you have become dirty.

* Despite decades that have passed by Kurds are still living in a feudal order where aga is the owner of the tribe. Most members of the tribe do not even hold identity cards. They have to ask the permission of their aga for anything including marriages. There are lots of other practices in family life for example, having to pay the father of the bride a large sum in order to get married, when your husband dies you are supposed to marry the brother of your husband among many other primitive traditions.

* Most Kurdish families have never heard of population planning. Families with 10-15 children are not uncommon. So is polygamy.

* Kurds do not live where they are they are always in pursuit of better opportunities elsewhere. Millions of them live in Europe and Western Turkish provinces. There are a great deal of mafiaman deliberately using the nick Kurd to infuriate people. Because in everyone's mind a Kurd is someone capable of all sorts of evil and they use this.


True our government made a number of big mistakes and it has still been doing many more. Nevertheless, you should think twice before believing in a video clip featuring Kurdish people being tormented by people. Most of those videos are set up by PKK militants. Usually, a few people begin throwing stones at the police and there are some terrorists firing their arms. When the police intervenes the group of women began wailing and throwing themselves in the middle of the street. Normally, demonstrations are restricted by the governor of that city and this situation is declared to public before that day. The police does make a mistake by using their clubs mercilessly on people. That is unfortunately the standard stuff in most of Turkey. But when all these elements come together in a video clip, you have a striking show at hand.