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30.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 08:15 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting vineyards:

It must not be that easy to call people fascists. It is different from being called a communist.


It is not that difficult actually.
As I said, previously I explained why I called the mod fascist.
Not calling him fascist would be politically incorrect!!


I really think that you are crossing the line handsom. Calling someone a fascist is not a trivial accusation and of course it's a personal attack. Doesn't matter whether you explained it or not!

31.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 08:23 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting vineyards:

It must not be that easy to call people fascists. It is different from being called a communist.


It is not that difficult actually.
As I said, previously I explained why I called the mod fascist.
Not calling him fascist would be politically incorrect!!


I really think that you are crossing the line handsom. Calling someone a fascist is not a trivial accusation and of course it's a personal attack. Doesn't matter whether you explained it or not!


I will think about it and during this period of thinking I will call him "DEMOCRAT" or something else when he posts something racist/ultra nationalist/army friendly/anti kurdish/deep state supporting.
OK?

32.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 08:28 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

I will think about it and during this period of thinking I will call him "DEMOCRAT" or something else when he posts something racist/ultra nationalist/army friendly/anti kurdish/deep state supporting.
OK?


The rules are clear "no personal attacks". You are not exempt of this rule.

33.       azade
1606 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 08:34 pm

Fascism and communism are two different political ideas, why is one worse than the other (and thus must be censored)? Both have killed millions.

34.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 08:36 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:

I will think about it and during this period of thinking I will call him "DEMOCRAT" or something else when he posts something racist/ultra nationalist/army friendly/anti kurdish/deep state supporting.
OK?


The rules are clear "no personal attacks". You are not exempt of this rule.


It was not a personal attack (I am still thinking about it if it was. ).
It was the truth.
it is like not calling hitler a fascist, which is a politically correct term.
But anyway, no more words from me on this..

ps..of course nobody should be exempt of that rule..

35.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 08:42 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

It was not a personal attack (I am still thinking about it if it was. ).
It was the truth.
it is like not calling hitler a fascist, which is a politically correct term.
But anyway, no more words from me on this..

ps..of course nobody should be exempt of that rule..


Oh come on, don't pretend you don't understand this!!!

36.       KeithL
1455 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 10:36 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting vineyards:

Keith, if I were you would delete the posts containing personal attacks directed to you. How come these people call you a fascist?


I agree with that.



I am anything but a fascist. But I am also against anarchy and anarchists. If simply disagreeing with thehansom makes me a fascist in his opinion, then he needs to look at his own definitions of free speech.

As far as my turkish education, I have not taken it blindly from the internet. I have worked with some of the biggest companies in Turkey and am a partner in one of them. I have had many discussion both political and socio-economic with Turkish politicians at several levels because of my job. Does this make me an expert? Of course not. But I am much more informed than you may know.

As you have read from one of my last posts, I have no harsh feelings towards Kurds and openly state they deserve complete equal rights.
I draw the line where it comes to re-drawing Turkey's eastern border. There had been relative peace in the east (once Apo was brought to justice) until the Iraq War started. Once the Iraqi Kurds began to gain control of N. Iraq, that "Kurdistan Fever" spread into Turkey and gave the Kurds there the hope of joining their Iraqi kurd brothers. But this is wrong. You can be proud to be a kurd, but a kurdish Turk...

37.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 10:50 pm

Quoting KeithL:

But I am also against anarchy and anarchists.


What do you mean by that? Does it mean that you don't approve of people opposing the government?

38.       KeithL
1455 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 10:52 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting KeithL:

But I am also against anarchy and anarchists.


What do you mean by that? Does it mean that you don't approve of people opposing the government?



In the case of the Turkish kurds, they have a right to equality. But they do not have a right to border modification.

39.       janissary
0 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 11:17 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting vineyards:

Keith, if I were you would delete the posts containing personal attacks directed to you. How come these people call you a fascist?


I agree with that.



I am anything but a fascist. But I am also against anarchy and anarchists. If simply disagreeing with thehansom makes me a fascist in his opinion, then he needs to look at his own definitions of free speech.

As far as my turkish education, I have not taken it blindly from the internet. I have worked with some of the biggest companies in Turkey and am a partner in one of them. I have had many discussion both political and socio-economic with Turkish politicians at several levels because of my job. Does this make me an expert? Of course not. But I am much more informed than you may know.

As you have read from one of my last posts, I have no harsh feelings towards Kurds and openly state they deserve complete equal rights.
I draw the line where it comes to re-drawing Turkey's eastern border. There had been relative peace in the east (once Apo was brought to justice) until the Iraq War started. Once the Iraqi Kurds began to gain control of N. Iraq, that "Kurdistan Fever" spread into Turkey and gave the Kurds there the hope of joining their Iraqi kurd brothers. But this is wrong. You can be proud to be a kurd, but a kurdish Turk...




+100000000

They cant think as we do Keithl. Coz they live in abroad. they are in safe not like us. We think twice when we want to go somewhere crowded. When we watch the news we think we were lucky today. we feel lucky when we passed there a few minutes before. They cant see we live, work, walk, support same team, watch same series on TV togather, coz they tell what they hear from others.

Im an Ataturkist, he is my leader, I m devoted to his principles thoughts. His nationalism wasnt a racist and Im not too. he said "how happy to him who says Im a turk" NE MUTLU TURKUM DİYENE!

to Deli kızın: if you dont take my bro to here I will be very glad. u do it all the time, I warned you many times

40.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Apr 2008 Sun 11:23 pm

Quoting janissary:

They cant think as we do Keithl. Coz they live in abroad.


Wow.... brilliant logic... :-S

How many times do we have to say that we DO NOT support terrorism? Do you not understand this?

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