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100.       catwoman
8933 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:07 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

This is what I find wrong. They should speak Turkish as well! Because when going to primary and secondary school in Turkish, you have the chance to study at university and escape from the poverty you live in. It is stubborn not to send your child to school because they dont teach in your native langauge but inb the language of the borders you actually live within.

I think that in areas mainly inhabited by Kurds, education should be given in Turkish, but an extra course of Kurdish language should be added to the general programme. It shouldnt be compulsory, because there are also some Turks and Araps in that region.


But from what I understand some Kurds can't speak turkish at all. I think that the first couple years should be in kurdish and during that time they could learn turkish and continue their education in higher classes in turkish.

101.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:10 pm

Quoting catwoman:

But from what I understand some Kurds can't speak turkish at all. I think that the first couple years should be in kurdish and during that time they could learn turkish and continue their education in higher classes in turkish.



Maybe, but in that case it should just be a temporary measurement untill the Turkish language is accepted in that region too..

I find it unacceptable for the inhabitants of a country, especially if they are born there, not to speak the language. You cant complain about not getting rights, if you dont work to obtain them.

102.       catwoman
8933 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:13 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Maybe, but in that case it should just be a temporary measurement untill the Turkish language is accepted in that region too..

I find it unacceptable for the inhabitants of a country, especially if they are born there, not to speak the language. You cant complain about not getting rights, if you dont work to obtain them.


Why exactly? Canadians in Quebec don't have to speak english! How many languages are there in Switzerland! I don't think that anything should be forced on people. They would realize that they either have to do everything on their own or learn turkish and go to Istanbul for a job! They should be free to choose what's best for them. There's nothing unacceptable about it, and on top of that, Turkish should certainly be taught at schools.

103.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:17 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Why exactly? Canadians in Quebec don't have to speak english! How many languages are there in Switzerland! I don't think that anything should be forced on people. They would realize that they either have to do everything on their own or learn turkish and go to Istanbul for a job! They should be free to choose what's best for them. There's nothing unacceptable about it, and on top of that, Turkish should certainly be taught at schools.



But I believe both French and English to be the official languages in Canada.. that means if you need something from government or from your municipality, you can request it in French as well. In Turkey, the official language is simply Turkish. ALl government related works, will be in Turkish. If you want to be part of that society, you need to speak that language.

104.       KeithL
1455 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:19 pm

Quoting catwoman:


Why exactly? Canadians in Quebec don't have to speak english!



This is not quite true.

105.       azade
1606 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:31 pm

vineyards most of the things you are saying are not true. Prejudices are very harmful and only make things worse.

106.       KeithL
1455 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:43 pm

Quoting azade:

vineyards most of the things you are saying are not true. Prejudices are very harmful and only make things worse.



what is not true in what he said? Every village may not be this way but these traditions still exist in many kurdish villages.

107.       vineyards
1954 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:46 pm

Azade, I am 40 years old. I have traveled in East Turkey extensively. As a university student, I had Kurdish schoolmates later on colleagues. I have learned enough.

108.       catwoman
8933 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:55 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

But I believe both French and English to be the official languages in Canada.. that means if you need something from government or from your municipality, you can request it in French as well. In Turkey, the official language is simply Turkish. ALl government related works, will be in Turkish. If you want to be part of that society, you need to speak that language.


ok... you're right I still think that the first couple years of school should be in kurdish during which they would learn turkish and continue on their education in turkish.

109.       alameda
3499 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 09:58 pm

Quoting azade:

My question was how many ethnic turks apprx. live in south eastern Turkey. As I said, I don't think there are any whatsoever in the far south east, which is the part I know well. I wonder about other places. haven't been able to find any information about it.



Actually, that's not true, I know quite a few who live there. I've spent time in their homes. There are ethnic Turks in that area.

110.       KeithL
1455 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 10:06 pm

Azade, have you been to SE Turkey often?

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