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censorship by admins!
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 10:06 pm |
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Azade, have you been to SE Turkey often?
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 10:31 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Azade, have you been to SE Turkey often? |
I thought she 'lived' there 
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 10:38 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting KeithL: Azade, have you been to SE Turkey often? |
I thought she 'lived' there |
Maybe, I don't know.
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 10:49 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting KeithL: Azade, have you been to SE Turkey often? |
I thought she 'lived' there |
Maybe, I don't know. |
Maybe she did live there, but was insulated from the larger society around her.
In areas I've been I was exposed to both Turks and Kurds and I don't know what other ethnic groups. It is sort of rude to ask, you know? I was at weddings where the attendants were all ethnicities.
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 11:03 pm |
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I don't really think this should be a battle of "who knows more", we obviously have different experiences from various places in various situations, seen with different perspectives, but yes, I live on and off in Hakkâri. If I had a somewhat nice job I would like to live there permanently, hopefully sometime in the future, but it is not possible right now, for reasons not related to this subject.
None or very few of the villages there are remote from bigger towns and in any village I have been in life does not seem to be very different than life in cities. Families are continuing to live more modern lives and have less children. It's the same development as turks have gone through. Though there still are some unconvenients in our lives like method of showering, lack of proper heating and having go and bring water from various wells/springs/whatever during the winter due to frozen pipes. In other ways life is better there. People are always friendly and helpful in ways I have never seen any other place and in this discussion it is simply not fair to draw a picture of a people supporting horrible acts, because it is false.
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 11:07 pm |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting KeithL: Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting KeithL: Azade, have you been to SE Turkey often? |
I thought she 'lived' there |
Maybe, I don't know. |
Maybe she did live there, but was insulated from the larger society around her.
In areas I've been I was exposed to both Turks and Kurds and I don't know what other ethnic groups. It is sort of rude to ask, you know? I was at weddings where the attendants were all ethnicities. |
alameda, I am not sure what you mean?
I mentioned the city I live in because it is probably the best example to support my question  Anyway thanks you have answered it, while others were busy speculating my hidden agenda :-S
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 11:27 pm |
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Quoting azade:
I mentioned the city I live in because it is probably the best example to support my question Anyway thanks you have answered it, while others were busy speculating my hidden agenda :-S |
I was not looking for agenda. Was only asking to see what perspective you have. Thanks for answering.
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 11:34 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Quoting azade:
I mentioned the city I live in because it is probably the best example to support my question Anyway thanks you have answered it, while others were busy speculating my hidden agenda :-S |
I was not looking for agenda. Was only asking to see what perspective you have. Thanks for answering. |
Hope you didn't feel singled out Keith I respect your opinions
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09 Apr 2008 Wed 12:18 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting KeithL: This is hardly an argument. In El Paso, Texas they speak Spanish. In Quebec City, Canada they speak French. In Oberwart, Austria they speak Hungarian. These are not good enough reasons to change a border. |
Agreed . But in Turkey, Kurds cannot speak kurdish at schools, which basically means that they can't go to schools. They can't even name their holiday in their native language, they are forbidden to use Kurdish names!!!!!! You still think there's no oppression? |
u must be joking...this is really big lie...and this lie got bigger recently and were seemed that there is pressure on kurds at schools,or at work...many kurds are hurt coz of your thoughts...u dont know wanything about TR and u just talk about things u hear...listen I have graduated from Turkish hight school, university and got master'S degre...I had many kurdish friends...they were supported from goverment...in my school like others kurdish students got scholarships more than me...in usual goverment and turkish education system supports them more than other turkish...goverment and european thinks that area of Turkey need help...and Turkish goverment never apply any discrimination on kurdish people...in gereral they are more luckier to get scholarship..they share their desk with turkish student without any trouble...
lets talk about EU countries...if u wanna study in any eu countries u have to speak and write their language very well...u have to be citizen to have country's benefits...isnt it???moreover u have to pay more than citizen for education...(if u call kurds here in turkey as a different nation,they had to do these...but they dont have to coz we call them as a Turkey's nation.)
I have also worked as a lecturer after my graduation at the same university...I have never met any discrimination...u all have prejudge about TR...
firstly u have to check other regions of TR..do u know how blacksea's ppl attend school or work..how is difficult blacksea's ppl life ??? u dont know coz u dont interested any other region of TR...
in Turkey it is forbidden to use some name,nickname etc...I know many ppl who wanna give their son name ''SADDAM''.I dont wanna discuss why ...but it is forbidden to use that name as well...it is not just for kurdish,it is for all ppl...Turkish alphabet include 29 letter then u have to use that letters in name...this is the reason...
kisses all nationlists and anti turks
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09 Apr 2008 Wed 12:33 am |
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Quoting azade: Quoting alameda: Quoting KeithL: Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting KeithL: Azade, have you been to SE Turkey often? |
I thought she 'lived' there |
Maybe, I don't know. |
Maybe she did live there, but was insulated from the larger society around her.
In areas I've been I was exposed to both Turks and Kurds and I don't know what other ethnic groups. It is sort of rude to ask, you know? I was at weddings where the attendants were all ethnicities. |
alameda, I am not sure what you mean?
I mentioned the city I live in because it is probably the best example to support my question Anyway thanks you have answered it, while others were busy speculating my hidden agenda :-S |
My response was to this comment you made before you mentioned the city you live in:
"My question was how many ethnic turks apprx. live in south eastern Turkey. As I said, I don't think there are any whatsoever in the far south east, which is the part I know well. I wonder about other places. haven't been able to find any information about it."
The most SE in Turkey I went to was Sanilurfa. There were Arabs, Kurds and Turks there that I was able to identify.
You mentioned Hakikari, which is just about as far as one can go without being in Iran. It must be interesting there. I have no idea how it is, but I would like to visit it someday, although I probably won't.
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09 Apr 2008 Wed 12:39 am |
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Oh do come one time, I'll prepare the most delicious çay don't miss it out on it 
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