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70.       abudy99
28 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 02:34 am

 

Quoting abudy99

first of all give me an evidence for what you said : aysha and the other wives of muhammed -pease be upon him-  ride camels alone ?

all stories in "prophet says" tell they were ride camels with one of their related .

it´s true they owned camels so did women in saudi , they owned more than turkish did.

 

second , we don´t allow women to drive not becuse the driving itself is out of law , but because we have something in islam called " block the pretext "

now in saudi every family have a car or two , some regular families have more than 5 cars , so tell me what´s ganna happen when women drive ? the count of cars will be double .

rate of Harassment , rape , sexual crime will be rise .

alot of unnecessary problem will be exist .

that doesn´t mean any women driver will  burning in hell , no one says that .

but we prevent lady driving to save ladies from dangerus risks

p.s : i have a question for you , and i hope you answer it honestly :

what do YOU think of lady driving ? are they good drivers ?

 

 

 

71.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 02:37 am

Your question is similar to asking "can men be good cooks?´ . What do you think?

 

Yes, ladies can also be good drivers, so long as they do not cover their faces and eyes while driving.....To say the opposite,  would be unfairly undermining 50% of god´s creation.

72.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 03:13 am

Abudy, I have a better idea. To greatly improve road safety, ban men from driving as well. The number of car accidents will fall dramatically lol

 

From what you´re saying, if ladies drove in SA, it would cause rapes and escalation of crime? How? Do you mean that Saudi males do not rape because they don´t see driving women? And, if women drove, males would suddenly feel the urge to commit a crime?

 

I´m sorry, but there´s just one explanation to why Saudi women are banned from driving and travelling on their own - you discriminate them, want to control them and treat them like farm animals, or, in other words, you lack self-confidence.

 

I´m sorry for harsh words but I got really angry at the thought that I might have been born a Saudi and be treated like a possession, not an equal human being. Ughhh

73.       abudy99
28 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 03:58 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

Your question is similar to asking "can men be good cooks?´ . What do you think?

 

Yes, ladies can also be good drivers, so long as they do not cover their faces and eyes while driving.....To say the opposite,  would be unfairly undermining 50% of god´s creation.

 

 according to many articles and reports , women are bad driver .

 

74.       abudy99
28 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 06:25 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Abudy, I have a better idea. To greatly improve road safety, ban men from driving as well. The number of car accidents will fall dramatically lol

 

you know , it´s great idea  because in saudi  one person killed  every hour by car accident . do you believe that ? so your idea will keep the people alive  here LOOL .

 

From what you´re saying, if ladies drove in SA, it would cause rapes and escalation of crime? How? Do you mean that Saudi males do not rape because they don´t see driving women? And, if women drove, males would suddenly feel the urge to commit a crime?

and you know , the female will be easy for criminal when she is drive alone or travel alone , that´s how the rate of crime will rise , not like what you mentioned . 

I´m sorry, but there´s just one explanation to why Saudi women are banned from driving and travelling on their own - you discriminate them, want to control them and treat them like farm animals, or, in other words, you lack self-confidence. 

I´m sorry for harsh words but I got really angry at the thought that I might have been born a Saudi and be treated like a possession, not an equal human being. Ughhh

you´re sorry and you should be (there is no need to harsh words )

want to control them and treat them like farm animals ???

it is bad thing to say .

when you prevent anyone you love from doing bad thing , he will think that you don´t love him , but you do that for his good .

we do that for women´s good too .

the women in saudi are treated like queens

she doesn´t need to work  and push herself in trouble , the man should go to work instead his woman .

she doesn´t need to spend a cent on herself or her kids , the man should spend all money on his woman and family.

she doesn´t need to drive , the man should drive for her or bring a special driver .

 

and it will be your good luck if you have been born in saudi so you´ve got the opportunity to be a muslim and feel how life is great when you´re  amuslim .

 

and down there you´ll find out how many times i modified this replay



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75.       toggle
346 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 10:07 am

I really can not beleive my eyes:

 

"when you prevent anyone you love from doing bad thing , he will think that you don´t love him , but you do that for his good .

we do that for women´s good too ."

 

This is obviously restricting the freedoms of a citizen. It is so obvious that men are regarded as citizens but women are half citizens. 

 

I am very sorry to say this but these are thoughts of a sick mind.

76.       Suyu
78 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 11:06 am

 

Quoting abudy99

 

 

every society around the world has bad and good points , at least we -saudis- have islamic law , which conserves : mind ,  money ,  body , religion ,  honor and property .

becouse of that we have the lowest rate of crimes , foundlings , gambling , and alcohol issues .

and any thing goes wrong in saudi it because of doing what is against islamic rules , the islam is not calling to terrorism , nor to  immorality .

 

Well, it is the worst country among muslim ones so I dont know about those nice things you wrote. In most discussions where people are argueing about islam this country is always mentioned by those who are against muslims because it is the easiest example to show what is wrong with islam.

77.       Suyu
78 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 11:15 am

 

Quoting abudy99

second , we don´t allow women to drive not becuse the driving itself is out of law , but because we have something in islam called " block the pretext "

now in saudi every family have a car or two , some regular families have more than 5 cars , so tell me what´s ganna happen when women drive ? the count of cars will be double .

rate of Harassment , rape , sexual crime will be rise .

alot of unnecessary problem will be exist .

 

what do YOU think of lady driving ? are they good drivers ?

 

That´s absolutely out of logic and not just absurd but ABSURD.

 

And what is that question? DISCRIMINATION, in EVERYTHING women can be as good as men. Just they need practice because in the whole world they are let to be equal with men not so long ago.

 

AVOIDING DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM, JUST MAKES IT MORE SERIOUS.

 

I can tell that maybe there are wise men in Saudi Arabia who can make a woman happy but you are not one of them. You totally lack of logic but that is not your fault, they taught you just this in your "nice country"...



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78.       Suyu
78 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 11:21 am

 

Quoting abudy99

 

 

 according to many articles and reports , women are bad driver .

 

 

I hope under this name abudy99 someone is acting specially because I cant believe someone can be this stupid. Which articles? Saudi arabian? So they are telling you how to think and you cant have your own opinion. What a great country.

79.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 11:27 am

these countries should be isolate themselves with  something like chinese wall..not permit all western impurity to damage their thoughts..



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80.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 16 Jul 2009 Thu 11:37 am

 

Quoting ReyhanL

these countries should be isolate themselves with  something like chinese wall..not permit all western impurity to damage their thoughts..

 

They do not want to isolate themselves....

 

It would be unfair if other ladies of the world miss the chance to experience the company of gloriously divine and holy Saudi men.

 

They only want to isolate their girls;  for the ladies´ own good, of course.  Wink



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