Could you be more specific? What is being immoral, what is doing bad things in public? Bad girls? And why her father? If she is over 18 or maybe 21 and unmarried will they still call her father? Does her father own her or something?

I think I just felt offended So please explain yourself in more detail. Because what you just said above is a violation of equal human rights and simply sick.

 As you may know, insults are not allowed in that site

You can have your opinions any way you like and you will be grant respect  here, it doesnt matter that we or anyone else agree with your opinions or not, but will be respected !

Ýts not welcome here to insult others here, and you should know that because you accepted it in order to join TLC .

So please modify your post and express yourself in a way that is welcome here, or else your post will be deleted !

 It is taken care of.

Members, please be aware of forum rules. We may all have different opinions (like CANLI and I ) but there is no need to call each other names. You may find someones thoughts to be very disturbing and ofcourse you are entitled to respond to it, but please refrain from personal comments.

Mhsn Supertitiz, you modified your post at the moment I deleted it. However since your new post is not much different and your reason for edit still shows the same words.. I see no point in restoring your comment.

1. if you want to understand the qur´an an hadith as you like there won´t be any evdience against anything you like . e.g : the addict will ask you : if you can point out ayat or hadith that proof the heroin is prohibited  ? you can´t.

Know why ? Because there is NONE !

the qur´an an sunna  must explaind by specialist (3ulama´ ) otherewise there is no need for prophets , it will be enough to print copies of quran and that´s it .

you will cancel alot of islamic sciences : the tafseer , where we can find quran explanation .

the fiqh , where we can find the Detailed matters of islamic shari´a

osol alfiqh , where we know how to use the quran and sunna for  deduction .

sciences of hadith , where can Distinguish the good from weak hadiths .

you will cancel generations of specialist beginning from sahabah to the last one which is me kidding .

you can´t understand the qura´n and hadith without going back to the understands of the Best centuries , they attended The revelation of the Qur´an and took it from the mouth of the prophet , they asked him about the qur´an and shari´a , so they had more knowledge of qur´an and sunnah than anyone came after them .

so it´s wrong when you say that anyone can take qur´an and sunnah , and extract the orders from them . unless the qualified poeple , and i guess me and you are not that qualified .

so here you will find proofs from qur´an and sunnah for covering face ( it´s a small arabic book since you are arabi   .  http://www.al-eman.com/islamlib/viewchp.asp?BID=314&CID=1

yes please give me some , and true ones please , not like what we always read in newspapers , i know most of them are false .

that is you question , and you answer it very well by saying :

i agreed 

even it has good means , but i couldn´t find this in hadith books , please check .

 yes they call her father , and no he doesn´t own her , but he still her father . she lives in his house and she must respect family rules .

if any girl does a crime , is it offended when she´s taken to police station ? or to jail if she deserves it ? 

 But how can you know that these ulema handle out of religiosity or for power?

And think of the Iranian-shia system, where everybody is entitled to ´taqlid´ and choose their own mujtahid. That makes that many people in the same society follow different views of explanation of Quran and Sunna, because every mujtahid can explain it differently because of the existence of ijtihad.  Ofcourse, the system in itself seems good: instead of makign everybody follow a muqallad, everybody can choose the mujtahid that is closest to your own thoughts, and because people change through the ages, the fetwas and opinions of the new mujtahids will be very different from those of the muqallad. But isn´t it very dangerous that a religion is made so difficult that it can only be explained to the people by ulema?

 I was wondering what you understand from ´crime´, my dear.

..............as long as the same is done when a "boy" has committed a "crime".  Does daddy get called in that instance????  Somehow I think I already know the answer but please...do tell.

 ofcourse they call his father, and no he doesn´t own him, but he is still his father. He lives in his house and he must respect family rules

 the islam is very simlpe and clear , and allah says about qur´an (( [17] And We have indeed made the Qur-an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?  )) suratul qamar .

what difficult is , when we dicover a new problem or matter , who can decide it´s (halal or haram ) other than ulama´ , and how can they decide ? by analogy with old shari´a sentences , or by major rule of islam .

 For me it is simple and clear, an infidel will burn