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there is a HAdith that our mother "ayiþa " says : "in hajj we were discovering our faces all the time , but when we passed by strangers we cover our faces "
that will answer you´re questions .
and as you know we take our religion not just from quran , but from quran and sunna , even that we have evidence from quran that order women to cover their faces , i´m sure you know it , but some people wants to explain the quran as they like not as it is right .
and what is the advantage of wearing hejab without covering face ? cover the hair ? how cares about hair .
alhejab has existed to prevent stranges curious stares , does that works with turkish hejab ?
i saw turkish women here in madina wear turkish hejab , they are more beautiful and attractive than with no hejab .
you know , not all women´s hairs are beauty  , but their faces often like a piece of full moon , so they should cover faces to Achieve the advantage of wearing hejab
Actually NO, it doesnt answer my question
à asked you if you can point out ayat or hadith by Rasul SAV to say that women should cover their faces, and you didnt.
Know why ? Because there is NONE !
As i said between us are Quran and Hadith ´strong ones´ nothing else, not personal opinions or some philosophical opinions why women should wear niqab
Because as much as i´d appreciate those opinions i would actually follow ALLAH order only not anyone else, unless of course i adopt those opinions as well !
So even if women were such a beauty wearing hijab, ALLAH would know that and would order it if HE wanted !
Rasul´s wives RA were wearing niqab thats explain what Ayþe RA said but that doesnt mean it applies to all women too as well .
Quoting abudy99
you have a good experience in arabic pronuonsing (as you said ma3roof ) , but for sorry you have no idea about what (El amr Bil ma3roof ) does in matter of fact .
all you know is what you hear from media , which attacks (El amr Bil ma3roof ) round the clock .
if you´re Foreigner and none muslim , they will understand your religion and never talk to you .
if you´re Foreigner muslim , they will understand your (mathhab) and never talk to you .
give me one example of any turkish women (or any Foreigner wonen) how stoped by (El amr Bil ma3roof ) because of her hejab, if you find one i give a guarantee when she sues them she will win the case .
Arabic is my first language actually, and i would give you examples on how El amr Bil ma3roof treats women if you want, and its not that nice !
Let alone, as you say Saudi is a religious country, rules by Ãslamic law, so...there is no rule in Quran or Hadith says you should force women to wear hijab nor niqap
à mean, there is no Had ´punishment´..so why on earth you force them there represented in El amr Bil ma3roof ?
Quoting abudy99
don´t you believe that in islam the parents have the full responsibility of their family ? that is what alqur´an and alsunna say ....etc
Yes i do believe that, not only in Ãslam but its every parents responsibility, but the question till what age ?!
Would parents monitor their kids and be responsible about what they are doing till kids became old men and women too ?!
Parents responsibility toward their children is to bring them up and support them till they stand up on their own feet, then Children who are now grown ups take that responsibility and would be their own responsibility
Yes of course parents rules doesnt end, but it change
Rasul SAV taught us how to bring up our kids...7, 7 and then 7...he didnt say till the day they die !
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Of course I´ll go with you. Is this an all womens retreat with BYOB...I hope they have gambling again.
I just know that Catholics will not kill you if you convert. Like I said, I can´t speak for some small Christian sects/cults. I know that many will "shun" individuals for leaving.
So please explain yourself in more detail. Because what you just said above is a violation of equal human rights and simply sick.