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The so called armenian genocide Facts\accusations
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170.       chiko
135 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 03:34 pm

you ( general you ) call what Isreal have done to arabs " genocide" ( i agree that it is genocide) but when someone call what WE did to armenian which is much worse than Gaza war you suddenly become very agressive and protective.  typical Turkish  i wonder if  you will be able to get out of your little worlds which only have bias,hateiunfairness and paranoia.

171.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 04:19 pm

si++,

i dont want to boast about my education like others do here. i occasionally catch their "high education" errors in some basic and common knowledge about geography, astronomy, religions or politics.

but you, si++ still are welcome to educate yourself from other sources, not only turkish gov history books or articles written by turkish nationalists.

 

i believe dink was killed for a reason, you turks felt insecure and threatened. his death exposes the naked truth about this delicate subject. his death stands a witness to the truth of genocide. you are so much afraid of the truth that you kill a person.

172.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 03:03 am

 

Quoting femmeous

si++,

i dont want to boast about my education like others do here. i occasionally catch their "high education" errors in some basic and common knowledge about geography, astronomy, religions or politics.

but you, si++ still are welcome to educate yourself from other sources, not only turkish gov history books or articles written by turkish nationalists.

 

i believe dink was killed for a reason, you turks felt insecure and threatened. his death exposes the naked truth about this delicate subject. his death stands a witness to the truth of genocide. you are so much afraid of the truth that you kill a person.

Well I don´t know what genocide means according to you. Maybe you should define it first than we can discuss if what happened back then can be qualified as genocide. But before you, UN got together and made a definition of it in 1948. Turkish state is ready to discuss it if 1915 events were a genocide according to this definition. You can believe what you want to believe. Then it´s only your belief. So what yani? You hate Turks, don´t you? You come to this site to jump onto every opportunity with which you can attack Turks in everyy possible way. I can see it in your posts.

 

173.       femmeous
2642 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 10:30 am

 

Quoting si++

Well I don´t know what genocide means according to you. Maybe you should define it first than we can discuss if what happened back then can be qualified as genocide. But before you, UN got together and made a definition of it in 1948. Turkish state is ready to discuss it if 1915 events were a genocide according to this definition. You can believe what you want to believe. Then it´s only your belief. So what yani? You hate Turks, don´t you? You come to this site to jump onto every opportunity with which you can attack Turks in everyy possible way. I can see it in your posts.

 

 leave the definition to me.

turkish state is not only ready but is so scared of this case that jails everyone who openly talks about it, so most of them had to flee to abroad to be able to freely speak about it.

re: my feelings to turks i will talk later if its important to you.

174.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 01:14 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 leave the definition to me.

turkish state is not only ready but is so scared of this case that jails everyone who openly talks about it, so most of them had to flee to abroad to be able to freely speak about it.

re: my feelings to turks i will talk later if its important to you.

 

Who cares about your definition? I have my defiition for "whore" and it´s only mine.

But UN definition is a universal one.  Everybody knows that 1915 events do not qualify according to that definition. Believe me Turkey is ready for an international trial according to that definition. So Armenians can file a case and they should have their proofs cause they look so sure that it was "genocide". But they also know that it wasn´t (lets´s say according to that definition). So keep your fucking definition for yourself femus.

 

re: no I don´t care about your obviously fucking feelings about Turks but you are here to show it with every opportunity, right femus?

175.       femmeous
2642 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 06:20 pm

 

Quoting si++

Who cares about your definition? I have my defiition for "whore" and it´s only mine.

But UN definition is a universal one.  Everybody knows that 1915 events do not qualify according to that definition. Believe me Turkey is ready for an international trial according to that definition. So Armenians can file a case and they should have their proofs cause they look so sure that it was "genocide". But they also know that it wasn´t (lets´s say according to that definition). So keep your fucking definition for yourself femus.

 

re: no I don´t care about your obviously fucking feelings about Turks but you are here to show it with every opportunity, right femus?

 

 what does the word "whore" have to do with an armenian genocide? or you lost a control over yourself on this subject? oh, wait a minute, is it how you turks are ready to talk? lol nice talk congrats!

 

you asked for my feelings first lol well, its up to you, let me know when you want to know about my feelings

it may take 500-600 years, but i dont intend to live this long.

176.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 09:56 pm

 

Quoting si++

Who cares about your definition? I have my defiition for "whore" and it´s only mine.

But UN definition is a universal one.  Everybody knows that 1915 events do not qualify according to that definition. Believe me Turkey is ready for an international trial according to that definition. So Armenians can file a case and they should have their proofs cause they look so sure that it was "genocide". But they also know that it wasn´t (lets´s say according to that definition). So keep your fucking definition for yourself femus.

 

re: no I don´t care about your obviously fucking feelings about Turks but you are here to show it with every opportunity, right femus?

 

So Turkey and Turks ready to talk..eh?

Is it how you are going to talk? with whores and fuckings?

And you will make people believe what a nationalist Turk says? 

 

177.       CANLI
5084 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 10:29 pm

Guys,please choose your wordings

Having different opinions in a matter or regarding the person you are debating with,is not an excuse to use such words.

Ý would have asked you to modify your posts,except that option doesnt work still

So any further use of such wording will cause the deleting of the post.

178.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 10:33 pm

I mentioned this  in the other related thread as well..

According to the book Talat Pasa’nin Evrak-i Metrukesi - memoirs of Talat pasha-(I hope nobody denies the authenticity of the documents in that book because you can not find a better source than Talat Pasha who was the architect of the incident) the census in 1914, shows that we had 1.256.403 Armenians in Ottoman borders. Talat Pasha also notes that some of the Armenian were not counted, so he adviced  to add some more into that value..

So, there were roughly 1.500.000 million Armenians.

According to the census in 1915-1916, the number of Armanians lived in Ottomani Borders were 284.157. Also with some corrections , the value becomes 350.000 or 400.000.

These deportations were done with the army units. So escaping by foot were not that easy..

Anyway, according to these documents, 972.000 Armenians dissapeared from Ottoman territory.

So from now on, people should stop speculating about the numbers..

The numbers are clear..

People should try to find an answer to the ultimate question : what happened to those 1.000.000  Armenians?

That is what people should be talking about..

 

ps..There is no shame talking about it..We should just know the truth..

179.       femmeous
2642 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 10:34 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

Guys,please choose your wordings

Having different opinions in a matter or regarding the person you are debating with,is not an excuse to use such words.

Ý would have asked you to modify your posts,except that option doesnt work still

So any further use of such wording will cause the deleting of the post.

 

 btw, to whom you are talking? if it was me swearing you wouldnt hesitate warning me or even deleting it.

180.       CANLI
5084 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 10:39 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 btw, to whom you are talking? if it was me swearing you wouldnt hesitate warning me or even deleting it.

 

 femmeous,if i will delete si´s post, i also will have to delete yours,and handsoms´ posts responding to him

That is why i warned, and if it continue i will delete the posts as i said.

 

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