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The so called armenian genocide Facts\accusations
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80.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:34 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

it`s all about how low Armenians can get to portray Turks as evil. even the most biased sources say that its an alleged quote.

 

did hitler eyewitness what happened in Turkey in the ww1? No.

well..

then why we, Turkish goverment, spending huge amount of time trying to prove he did not say that..?

81.       wind
37 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:35 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

dont be funny man of course turkish ppl didnt sit and watch what armenians gangs were doing. it s normal that there was a reaction against their attacks.  we call it "self defending". but turk government gave a decision and moved them from those areas. what would you do if some ppl killed all of ur family and you saw them???

 

82.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:36 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}it clearly says that the Turkish archives are open.

 

I think may be I did not make myself clear..

The archives are open in theory..BUT that article tells you what parts from which archives have gone missing..{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

83.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:37 pm

 

Quoting si++

The problem of "Armenian genocide" is a much more serious one than it is thought by everyone, because it keeps breeding violence in more places than it is realized. The solution is to expose the truth, the whole truth related to this problem.

The Ottoman Empire was not an empire like the others, meaning that it was not built through colonization. It was created by the necessity of self-defense. And Ottoman rulers believed that it was their God-given duty to protect the peoples of the countries they ruled. For example, they reduced taxes in all those countries, abolished taxes in poor countries, and even sent sacks of gold to countries and cities in need, including some European cities. They sent food to Ireland when it was badly needed. They sent aid as far as Indonesia. They treated all citizens equally. When they liberated Cyprus from the occupation of Catholics, they sent gold, materials, personnel, and even drawings to repair Orthodox churches left in ruin by the Catholic occupiers. This is how the Ottoman "Empire" lived for 500 years. Armenians were given the status of preferred people because of their activities useful to all citizens.

After the Ottoman rule´s usefulness and power diminished, Western states began dismantling the Ottoman "Empire" for colonizing many of the countries they "liberated." Their main strategy was to promise independence to the non-Turkish citizens and to help them to rebel against the State. This strategy worked well in the Balkans and in the south of Anatolia, because Turks constituted a minority in most cities there.

 

Sorry but some of this just goes too far!   You are protraying Turkey and Ottomans as if they were whiter than white  and could do no wrong.  Wow - you were gods eh?

 

I was backing you Turks and agreeing with you, until I read this..... {#lang_emotions_puking}

 

84.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:38 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

well..

then why we, Turkish goverment, spending huge amount of time trying to prove he did not say that..?

 

who tries to disprove that? it should be proven first to be disproven, handsome!

85.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:38 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Seriously...where are your facts that this was "genocide"?

Maybe you have important information that should be passed on to historians who have failed so far...

 

America was one of the first countries who acknowledged the Armenian Genocide and thousands of missionaries have testified as to what happened, including German and Russians. Even a number of Turkish officials gave testimony under oath during the post war tribunals.  The Hitler statement was authenticated by Dr. K. B. Bardajian at Harvard in 1985 from secret notes taken by German Admireal Whilhelm during Hitlers speech.  Over a million people were butchered to death and fled the region.  Turkey has always dismissed this topic, never allowing external scholars to view historical documents.  I don´t know...chalk it up to a minor dispute or what a personal opinion...hmmm most doubtful.

86.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:39 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

who tries to disprove that? it should be proven first to be disproven, handsome!

 

Oh... come on..

 

87.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:40 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

America was one of the first countries who acknowledged the Armenian Genocide and thousands of missionaries have testified as to what happened, including German and Russians. Even a number of Turkish officials gave testimony under oath during the post war tribunals.  The Hitler statement was authenticated by Dr. K. B. Bardajian at Harvard in 1985 from secret notes taken by German Admireal Whilhelm during Hitlers speech.  Over a million people were butchered to death and fled the region.  Turkey has always dismissed this topic, never allowing external scholars to view historical documents.  I don´t know...chalk it up to a minor dispute or what a personal opinion...hmmm most doubtful.

 

 Stop talking your father´s words, and find out for yourself.  Where is America´s proof to back the Armenian "genocide".  And....even more interesting...what is the purpose of it?

88.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:41 pm

I will quote what I have translated before here

It can may be tell you WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO LIVE WITH THE TRUTH:

 

They lied to us all the time.
They told us "but they killed us too".
There were mobs over the borders with Russia and they killed.
They were barbarians too.
But what have they got to do with women, babies, men and elders from Bursa,Sivas,Maras and Adana?

Ittihatcilar killed them because they were just Armenians.
Forget ittihacilar, and  murderers.
You are closer to victims not the murderers.
Because you are humans.

 

89.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:41 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I will quote what I have translated before here

It can may be tell you WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO LIVE WITH THE TRUTH:

 

They lied to us all the time.
They told us "but they killed us too".
There were mobs over the borders with Russia and they killed.
They were barbarians too.
But what have they got to do with women, babies, men and elders from Bursa,Sivas,Maras and Adana?

Ittihatcilar killed them because they were just Armenians.
Forget ittihacilar, and  murderers.
You are closer to victims not the murderers.
Because you are humans.

 

 Why do you keep repeating things?

90.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 24 Oct 2008 Fri 09:44 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Sorry but some of this just goes too far! You are protraying Turkey and Ottomans as if they were whiter than white and could do no wrong. Wow - you were gods eh?

 

I was backing you Turks and agreeing with you, until I read this..... {#lang_emotions_puking}

 

i agree. that`s the same kind of bigotry as of teaschip.

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