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International Mother Language Day/Kurdish
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| 90. |
05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:25 pm |
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No we cannot do the same. We didn´t colonized, we didn´t oppressed. Not much to citicise on our part.
Colonisation:
Was the Ottoman Empire a fairy tale?
Oppression:
- Between 1925 and 1991 speaking Kurdish publically or performing Kurdish songs was banned.
- "Human Rights Watch documents that the Turkish military forcibly evacuated villages, destroying houses and equipment to prevent the return of the inhabitants. An estimated 3,000 Kurdish villages in Turkey were virtually wiped from the map, representing the displacement of more than 378,000 people."
- There is oppression EVERYWHERE which affects anyone in public life including authors and poets. Rule 301 is not oppression? Even such websites as YouTube are banned!
I will not stoop so low as to mention the Armenians.
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| 91. |
05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:28 pm |
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Is there a Kurdish language or rather we should say Zaza, Kýrmançi, Sorani?
actually your right but not many people know the difference especially foreigners.
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| 92. |
05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:28 pm |
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I only asked if most of them can speak their own language. Your numbers show that they forgot to speak their language. only 12% of the population. Pretty soon they will be obsolete, I am afraid.
Actually on this you are wrong. Statistics show that in recent years more and more young Welsh are learning their language and proud to speak it. And why not?
Perhaps you were not able to understand the figures I posted?
This divides into 32.4% of 3-15 year olds, 17.8% of 16-29s, 16.7% of 30-44s, 18.7% of 45-64s and 24.2% of over 65s.
Edited (3/5/2009) by TheAenigma
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| 93. |
05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:29 pm |
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actually your right but not many people know the difference especially foreigners.
Plus.. it makes no difference to the argument 
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| 94. |
05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:34 pm |
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Plus.. it makes no difference to the argument
actually.. to arguing about these thigs makes no difference as well
Edited (3/5/2009) by turquoise
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05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:35 pm |
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Actually on this you are wrong. Statistics show that in recent years more and more young Welsh are learning their language and proud to speak it. And why not?
Perhaps you were not able to understand the figures I posted?
This divides into 32.4% of 3-15 year olds, 17.8% of 16-29s, 16.7% of 30-44s, 18.7% of 45-64s and 24.2% of over 65s.
Anyway. So you think it will increase? No problem then. I guess it should be similar for Scots and Irishes as well. No?
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| 96. |
05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:37 pm |
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actually.. to arguing about these thigs makes no difference as well
Yes you are right. If arguing makes you stressed and angry then it is to be avoided. If you find it enjoyable, then why not? 
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05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:40 pm |
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Anyway. So you think it will increase? No problem then. I guess it should be similar for Scots and Irishes as well. No?
The Scots and Irish speak germanic and gaelic languages. They rarely spoken now - but not because of any law or oppression
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| 98. |
05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:41 pm |
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Colonisation:
Was the Ottoman Empire a fairy tale?
Oppression:
- Between 1925 and 1991 speaking Kurdish publically or performing Kurdish songs was banned.
- "Human Rights Watch documents that the Turkish military forcibly evacuated villages, destroying houses and equipment to prevent the return of the inhabitants. An estimated 3,000 Kurdish villages in Turkey were virtually wiped from the map, representing the displacement of more than 378,000 people."
- There is oppression EVERYWHERE which affects anyone in public life including authors and poets. Rule 301 is not oppression? Even such websites as YouTube are banned!
I will not stoop so low as to mention the Armenians.
These cannot be compared to what Brits did.
Ever heard of Pax Ottomana? Look at the mess now in the Middle East and Balkans.
Ottoman Empire ended because of its debts. Look at the Brits, they are still feeding themselves from their colonies.
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05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:42 pm |
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These cannot be compared to what Brits did.
Ever heard of Pax Ottomana? Look at the mess now in the Middle East and Balkans.
Ottoman Empire ended because of its debts. Look at the Brits, they are still feeding themselves from their colonies.
I am not denying our history, so therefore your point is irrelevent 
You stated that Turkey had not oppressed or colonised, and I proved you wrong
I made no such statement about Britain
Edited (3/5/2009) by TheAenigma
Edited (3/5/2009) by TheAenigma
Edited (3/5/2009) by TheAenigma
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| 100. |
05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:45 pm |
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Yes you are right. If arguing makes you stressed and angry then it is to be avoided. If you find it enjoyable, then why not?
nope it doesnt make me angry or stressed. i mean we cant even solve those problems in turkiye and arguing about them with foreigners.its kinda funny
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