Hehe yes.  The Welsh Assembly and theH are almost synonymous

 yeah seems they do and im trying to get the point of you giving them as an example,thats why im asking ... and ive never heard about them so i wanna know who are they and what they want.

do they want to make that part of UK their own country or make their own parliament and law? why they are subject to UK?

 This is going a bit offtopic!!  It was an example of people in the UK who speak a different language and may make local parliamentary decision themselves.

Maybe BECAUSE of this they don´t need to go to extremes....

 ummm so they have the right to make their local parliamentary decision themselves or is it legal?? i got  a bit confused. can u explain more as you answer my questions please. if u dont want to or if u cant be bovvered  i understand you..

 Well it IS confusing...even Wikipedia admits it!  Here is a link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Assembly_for_Wales

 ok what i understood from reading it is that they have a government and do their own elections...also found some of your sentences there you could answer my questions by saying yes or no i see that u dont even know about them very well but u giving them as an example.

anyway,i got that they are nothing to do with the subject was being talked about today.that was what i was trying to understand.

thank you

 Actually it had a lot to do with the topic - it was in reply to Sui asking if we have people in the UK who are allowed to talk their own language in parliament   I did not copy any sentences from Wiki, but did check the Welsh Assembly site to check that what I was saying was correct - is that a problem?

Your fixation about the Welsh Assembly is off topic though yes.  

And..here is the site in the Welsh Language!

http://wales.gov.uk/legislation/?skip=1&lang=cy

And I think my point here is clear - if we can do this in the UK, why do you react so strongly against Kurds merely speaking Kurdish in parliament in Turkey?

Now, this is some bogus reasoning.

Why do we react so strongly against Kurds merely speaking Kurdish in parliment in Turkey, if you guys can do it in the UK?

Let´s see. For one thing, we are not a parlimentary monarchy like the UK nor are we a united confederation.

Additionally, which Kurdish language would you prefer to hear in the Turkish parliment? There is the Zaza dialect, for instance, and the Kurmanji. Most Zaza speakers cannot understand Kurmanji at all, and Kurmanji speakers cannot understand Zaza. Within each dialect, there are also sub-dialects, which complicate things even further. According to you, which Kurdish dialect should become the second official language of the Republic of Turkey? Or, whould we have both dialects, and have three official languages?

Should Arabic become a second official language in France. 1.5 out of 10 in France today is either a Muslim with a North African background or speaks Arabic as their first language. Should the Pakistanis and Indians press for their parlimentary linguistic rights, and demand that it is spoken in the British parliment? Should the Hispanics in the US demand that Spanish becomes the second official language in the US?

I agree with the point that people should not be suppressed for speaking their mother tongues. People in Turkey should not be harrassed for speaking Kurdish at home or on the street. Over the years, much has changed, and you can actually hear a lot of people speaking Kurdish openly on the street without getting arrested. Neither Kurdish music nor Kurdish literature is banned. The movement is toward the positive not the negative end of the spectrum.

It is one thing to criticize the oppression of the Kurdish language in a socio-cultural dimension, and it is another thing to argue that it should become a second official language and be spoken in the parliment. The Republic of Turkey is not a confederation like Switzerland nor is it anything like the UK. At a political level, the language of the Republic of Turkey is Turkish. It doesn´t matter if you are a Kurd, an Armenian, a Circassian, or a Yezidi, the langauge of the parliment is Turkish. There is nothing wrong with that.

We don´t really have to take the UK as a role model in anything at all. You have got your own system, and we have got our own. You also have got your own delicious history of oppressing your minorities (as well as the foreign lands that you colonized), and we have got our own.

I don`t really see your point.

Because of and you likes DO NOT see the point or dragging your feet for not  seeing the point,  my country gave 40.000  (may be more) dead and still spending huge amount money for the war which could be easily prevented  if you are able to SEE the point. 

People in Turkey have been harrased and supressed because of using their mother tongue.

That is the FACT.

In the same parliment, some presidents spoke in their own languages and every MP seemed as happy as Larry when they were listening to him. Again, in the same parliment MPs were taken to the jail years ago because they spoke Kurdish!!

(Very same MP who spoke Kurdish in the parliment in this case -Ahmet Turk- could not speak with his mother when he was in jail because his mother did not know Turkish)

The problem is not that ´in the parliment only official languages are spoken´, the problem has been ´any language can be spoken apart from kurdish in Turkey´ 

Basically, years after years we have made the life hell for our own people because of this oppression and obsession.

This has been the problem.

This is the point you are denying to see..

Let me tell you one very very important thing:

Some people speak English

Turks speak Turkish

Kurds speak Kurdish

I know it is suprising. is it not?

Geez..It took 40.000 people dead to understand this surprising fact!!

About UK being an example for Turkey? why the hell not? is it better  people get oppressed or get killed?

Is it not the same reason similar such as ´we are Turks, we are unique ,our problems are different, our neighbours are different, or  excuses we have been hearing all those years?

UK can be a great example about how ´elegantly´ these problem can be solved. 

But of course, you have to see and acknowledge the problem  first.

Since some of us refusing to see that HUGE point, we are coming to ´why this generation will not have it´

But lets reapeat alltogether:

"Kurds speak Kurdish, Turks speak Turkish".

I am hoping that it will stick into our brains in the end.

I was replying to THIS post - is that ok with you?

 This is completely different - I am not suggesting that immigrants should be permitted to speak their own language in parliament.  You do not need to lecture me about immigrants - we know more about them than you do".

 Again, I was replying to Sui´s question.  Yes we colonized, oppressed and are happy to criticise our history (and present).  Come back and argue when you can do the same.