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16 Sep 2010 Thu 04:44 am |
I have a question for you arafta, why do you label countires by their religion?
Canada is one of the most diverse country religion wise.
Are you that intolerant towards other religions that are diffrent than yours?
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 04:49 am |
so we can`t label countries by their religion? I think you forgot to say "except muslim countries". why do the christians label us the "islamic world"?
isn`t it because you can`t tolerate anything other than your own religion?
Edited (9/16/2010) by Arafta
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 05:02 am |
Instead of using "you" to point out either muslim or christian use "they" because "you" is pointing someone out specificly, the proper way to point out a group is by using "they".
I just like the way "you" seem to make it a point to say that "I" am intolerant towards other religions.
And for your information I imbrace other religions not just "tolerate" my own so stop saying I am intolerant.
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 05:16 am |
Instead of using "you" to point out either muslim or christian use "they" because "you" is pointing someone out specificly, the proper way to point out a group is by using "they".
I just like the way "you" seem to make it a point to say that "I" am intolerant towards other religions.
And for your information I imbrace other religions not just "tolerate" my own so stop saying I am intolerant.
"you: the one or ones being addressed"
source: merriam-webster
as you see "you" is used both as a singular and plural word.
now, will you answer my question? why can`t I label countries by their religions while the christians label us "the muslim world"?
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 11:11 am |
Sorry for the late reply, tonsilitis kept me half conscious for a couple of days. There´s not much left for me to say, though, as I´ve noticed a few people already answered for me.
I just found it amusing that somebody would consider an individual incident that happens in Europe a christian tradition, but would swear that the numbers Wiki quotes as for honour killings in Muslim societies (a few a week in one country only!) do not prove anything. It also makes me laugh how Turkey doesn´t have a Kurdish problem, but whatever bad happens, it´s not Turks, it´s Kurds 
That makes me laugh too..
Actually, I think, even they dont believe what they are saying. It is just the fact that they have nothing to say about Kurdish problem which they were told "it did not exist" all those years.. After all these, after again and again they were proved to be wrong, what can they say?
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 11:30 am |
The only reason why you are able to get your hands on statiscs is taht every reported case of abuse is registered.
At least it is being reported and not hidden like in some places.
That is true actually..
In the middle east, in arabic countries, they are not reported.. Example will be "Iran not having any gays". In Egypt there are no honor killings for example according to statistics..
(Even in London, there was this case: The guy kills his daughter for his honor; buries her ; reports her as missing etc.. Years later his wife comes out and tells what happened.. If it was in Turkey, possibly, that woman would not come up. She would be fearful of her life. The difference of living in the UK made the difference.. She knows that her life can be protected in the uk.. If the same case was in Turkey, there is a great chance that we would not hear anything at all..)
I think all these secrecy is quite related to islamic societies and Islam´s allowance for male supremacy. No wonder why honor killings are generically speaking an Islamic thing..
In the end "it is a shame and it is a barbaric thing to do"..
Trying to deflect this shame or not to talk about it, does not help those girls.
It only helps the killers and the rapists..
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 11:41 am |
What arafta chooses to ignore is the fact that while the west is very differentiated religiously, the east is predominantly Muslim. It´s probably because of the immigration, which is bigger westwards than eastwards.
And since when is one incident equal to a few a week? that´s not quite a mathematical challenge, is it? 
We don´t have a problem with oppression of Gypsies or Muslims in Europe - we have problems with illegal immigrants, but that´s not only Gypsies and Muslims, there´s plenty of white Christian folk as well. Au contraire, it seems that some Muslims have problems with our European laws that grant equality to both genders, polygamy or showing the face in public places...
Oh, and child abuse, although unfortunately happens here, is illegal, unlike in many Arab countries where young girls are sold for marriage to men. How would you call that if not legalised paedophilia?
Edited (9/16/2010) by Daydreamer
[forgot a sarcastic remark about child abuse]
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 11:52 am |
I am serious.. I just saw it in yesterday´s newspapers. A guy, who is not Kurdish, abused his daughter, his relatives and he was even abusing or planning to abuse (I could not read the rest.. It makes me sick) his grand daughter.. And a month ago or maybe a few months ago, it was like 2 similar cases every week in the papers(for the info, they were not Kurds mainly)..
God´s sake!! You just wonder sometimes, what the percentage they make in real numbers!!
It is a really difficult thing to bring it up as far as the girls are concerned.. The real numbers can be really high..
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 12:36 pm |
I am serious.. I just saw it in yesterday´s newspapers. A guy, who is not Kurdish, abused his daughter, his relatives and he was even abusing or planning to abuse (I could not read the rest.. It makes me sick) his grand daughter.. And a month ago or maybe a few months ago, it was like 2 similar cases every week in the papers(for the info, they were not Kurds mainly)..
God´s sake!! You just wonder sometimes, what the percentage they make in real numbers!!
It is a really difficult thing to bring it up as far as the girls are concerned.. The real numbers can be really high..
This has reminded an article I posted one year ago:
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06 Oct 2009 Tue 12:31 am |
Doğu ve Güneydoğu Anadoluda her dört evden birinde ensest ilişki ve cinsel istismar yaşanıyor. Ne yazık ki toplumun mevcut tabuları yüzünden bu konuda kimse yüksek sesle konuşamıyor. KAMER Başkanı Nebahat Akkoç
In East and Southeast of Turkey (Where mostly Kurds live), there are incest relations and sexual abuse in one out of four houses but nobody can speak up about it because of the taboos. -- Nebahat Akkoç
Quoted form the this link
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 01:58 pm |
will you answer my question? why can`t I label countries by their religions while the christians label us "the muslim world"?
arafta by you taking the example of the minority of "christians" that labels you either by your religion or gender or sexual orientation you are no better than those bigots or racists and you lower yourself to their level of ignorance.
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16 Sep 2010 Thu 03:36 pm |
arafta by you taking the example of the minority of "christians" that labels you either by your religion or gender or sexual orientation you are no better than those bigots or racists and you lower yourself to their level of ignorance.
hahaha you said "minority of christians"? please look up the phrase "islamic world" on google and see how that phrase is used by all your media, politicians and the rest of the christians.
Sorry but you messed up badly. Bye.
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