your interpratation not mine

what an argument ender!

why should I waiste my breath on you, you understand what you want you call people what you want so what is the use trying to have a civil conversation with you.  You will only turn it to you way and insult or put down people.  Basicly the traits of a bigot so I do not waiste my time.

A bigot (in modern usage) is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different ethnicity, race, class, sexual orientation or gender.

Oh here we go again... When something bad happens it´s Kurdistan, when something good happens its called Turkey again, and the mountain Turks. Anyway, it´s true that honour killing is something that is linked to many Muslim communities. This doesn´t mean it´s a Muslim tradition, but that it IS a problem in a lot of communities, which Muslims should realize and battle. You can´t fix problems if you deny them. However, that it is just committed in Muslim communities is also not true. I have seen many documentaries on women who were tortured in India, or even killed there because of honour. Not all of them were Muslim. But if the Muslim community just says "it is not me, it wasn´t us, don´t look at me, I´m innocent" nothing will ever change. Yes, people from other religions do bad stuff too, but don´t stick your head in the sand. Honour killing IS a problem, it IS 99% women who are the victims, and it IS mainly done in Muslim communities.

You just proved my point Arafta, you assume everyone is talking about you and then you lash out at them.  It is a shame you think I called you a bigot but if you think I am a bigot I am fine with that.  I know what I am an I do not care what you think of me.

Have a nice day!

it´s true that honour killing is something that is linked to many Kurdish communities in Turkey. This doesn´t mean it´s a Kurdish tradition, but that it IS a problem in a lot of communities, which Kurds should realize and battle. You can´t fix problems if you deny them. However, that it is just committed in Kurdish communities in Turkey is also not true. I have seen many documentaries on women who were tortured in India, or even killed there because of honour. Not all of them were Kurds. But if the Kurdish community just says "it is not me, it wasn´t us, don´t look at me, I´m innocent" nothing will ever change. Yes, people from other ethnicities do bad stuff too, but don´t stick your head in the sand. Honour killing IS a problem, it IS 99% women who are the victims, and it IS mainly done in Kurdish communities in Turkey.

see the argument keeps its validity when you change the word muslims into Kurds in Turkey

and it`s your argument not mine. If someone is being hypocritical it`s again you. Could you tell us why we cant speak out about the Kurdish honor killing problem in Turkey when we know that at least 95% of those crimes in Turkey are carried out by the Kurds?

Sorry, but did my teacher make a mistake during geography classes? We are talking about things that happen within Turkish borders right? With people who have Turkish passports? My map of Turkey doesn´t show "Kurdistan" as a neighboring nation. I guess my map is all wrong, because hearing some of the people speak on here, there is a horrible place called Kurdistan, where no Turkish person EVER comes, where all the crime of the world comes from.

likewise those muslims in the european countries are all european citizens. why do you always point out their ethnicity when a few of the commit crime? you can blame muslims and gypsies but we can`t blame kurds, right?

There were many incest news articles in the papers recently.. Almost one or two every week ; committed by Turks. I wonder if racist Kurds were quoting these articles in their forums to make their case that Turks are not worth living together and labeling all Turks as rapists by saying that  ´all of these shameful crimes are committed by the Turks.. Not us´..

Who knows..