No i did not misunderstand. UK got rid of terrorists!! really??

Of course you did..

And of course you misunderstood..

Show me where and who is talking about the rights of terrorists!!

If you think that saying ´oh hang on a second, we have been in a circle..30 years ago we said this is terrorism only and 30 years later, we still have the same problem. lets look at what is causing  the real problem here ´ means talking about rights of the terrorists, you are WRONG.

As far as the UK is concerned..Yes..Of course.. You managed to persuade IRA to lay their arms.. You spoke to them.. Your government spoke to IRA in order to finish the terrorism..

AND YOU FINISHED it..

No more people are dying because of sectarian violence ..

See.. there is a way!!!

Why does PKK increase their terrorist attacks and why does BDP display an opponent role when Turkish Goverment begun Kurdish initiative if they really became terrorist with some justifiable reasons?

Why are they against the policies which offers broader rights to Kurdish people?

The reason of terrorism is not related to Kurdish peoples´ rights. It is just about power expectations of PKK and  BDP´s leader level and also some feudal leaders´ in the region.

Whatever they do, Turkey is stron enough to solve all kinds of problems in spite of those terrorists obstecling efforts.

Kurdish initiative is being prevented by the nationalists..

It has been frozen!!

I dont think neither PKK nor BDP are against it. The main opposition to Kurdish reforms is coming from Turkish nationalists (from people who told us as ´this is terrorism only problem´- of course, if they support Kurdish reforms, it means you are accepting the fact that it was NOT terrorism only; there were some other problems- Existence of Kurdish opening itself is the sole indication of "why it was not a terrorism only problem")..

If the initiative  was not frozen, I doubt these attack would have not hapenned..

PKK militants would lay arms and come to Turkey.. But after the first wave in which we saw pkk members giving up arms and entering Turkey, nationalist sentiments STOPPED the initiative!!!. I think this is why PKK attacks are happening now.

Implement ´the initiative´, there wont be any attacks, I think..

There is a way..

Some people talks about war in Turkey!

There is no war in Turkey.

There is terrorrism.

What do these people expect?

The terrorists will kill women, children, old, civil, soldier, police etc. with bitchy attacks and the Turkish army will let them do and do not respond them?

The terrorists have to give up with their guns!

Some people can think terrorism have justifiable reasons. I can´t believe that! Even capital punishment is not allowed even to the most bloody terrorists, what can a country do to desereve 40000 deaths???!!!

No no! The only reason is their power expectations and they just use Kurdish people for that!

It is the peace we need.

Peace is made between two fighting parties..

If we dont make peace with PKK , with whom are we going to make peace with?

who are we fighting against? (that is the situatioon most of the nationalists would not accept..They would rather prefer to see more people dying than accepting the fact we have to make a peace with pkk..If PKK is not going to give up arms, how can we even think to make peace??? )

We do have a Kurdish Problem in Turkey..And the terrorism is just the end product of it. 

That is what it was in the first place..

If we were able to identify this problem in the first place, we would not have lost all those people..

 I explained before, people who has no clue about "who got killed and how? how many villages being destroyed with pretext of ´fighting terrorism´, how many Kurds being killed by the security forces etc ", should have ask themselves if they have right and enough knowledge to talk about our almost 100 years old Kurdish Problem..

Crying ´but it is 40.000´ without knowing above  can be described, at least, as the naivety 

Turkish goverment tried that too. They accepted 36 terrorists from their camps. That happened 3 or 4 months ago in Habur border check point. What did the terrorists do? They used these 36 people to provake the other people! And then they increased theri attacks.

If an opportunity appears on the solution of the problem PKK becomes crazy.

BTW i am not surprised that you have no answers why PKK increased their terrorists after Kurdish initiative and why is BDP opposite to these policises.

They are fed with chaos. They don´t want any problem to be solved.

We ordinary people have to stop deffending that they may have reasons for terrorism.

Check the post 123..I answered that ..

well what happened in Habur showed us the Turkish Problem we have..

This is a peace..yes?

We kept asking those people to lay arms and surrender...yes?

They did.. yes?

What did you expect then? a sorry face from them?

And what is OUR problem to see 100.000 people danced with their entrance? Why are we upset to see those people celebrating because they thought the war was over?

If we, Turks, are getting angry because the peace is being made, because Kurds celebrating the war is over, we have a problem there!!!!

If people are sending their sons into war without blinking their eyes but getting angry with kurds -our brothers/sisters ´ celebrating the peace, we do have a problem and that is ´the Turkish problem´.

We ordinary people should come up and say ´we dont want this war any more´

IRA has been  a successful ´terrorist organization´..That does not mean ´IRA is not a terrorist organization´!!

How successful? Blowing up children and families? A full hate of the UK towards them. Tell me what has it earned? Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland are still seperate after 30 odd years of terrorisim,  there is now a full dis´armamant does that make the IRA successful?

I´ve been a successful bounder that doesn´t make me a womaniser hahaha!

How much sleuce can fall from a persons mouth?

Man you talk a lot of shite sometimes, and i´m being politeful

So in your head anyone who kills people and getting away with it is ´successful´? what a wonderful philosophy, so the World Bankers in recent times have brought us to the edge of a depression, they are successful? The guy who batters his wife to death because what hw believed is right, he is successful? what a load of crap!!!!

Dont worry, I dont think you will ever be a good womaniser..

I would recommend ´bum slightly higher´ next time. Lips  shining may help too...

I know your politeness.. Many of us know your politeness.. You have showed us several times  in the chat room!! So you do not need to repeat it in the forum.

I am not going to talk about IRA with you..(I am so scared to talk to an ´expert´ on that issue ) 

If I were you, I would stick to ´British economy and how much ´back of the lorry  immigrants´ are consuming  your resources´..

 At last what you say is true