ha ha

Nooo..!!!

You are simply amazing!!!!!

Yes yes..

I have NO answer for your ´cleverly´ crafted posts..

Happy?

Is this your new tactic to convince people?

Look..Oince ´the genious´!!

There have been many rebellions staged by the Kurds..(Even your presidents accept them as rebellions but not you!! of course. They are not as ´clever´ as you are  )

PKK is the last one and the longest one, and they are still out there..

´Calling PKK the last and the most successful´ does not mean praising them but stating a fact. ie.. IRA is kind of successful too.. It does not change the fact that they are terrorists..it is just a stating something..

The claim that Kurds were in Anatolia before Turks is just wrong, it´s a propaganda for legitimazing their motive. Btw. Kurdish separatists really have to choose one of these contradicting claims:

- Whenever they feel like it they argue real Turkics are %x in Anatolia (give 3, 5, 9, 20 etc. for x) which would mean most Turks are native to the land.

- Yet they also argue they were here before Turks, and Turks came from C.A.

Aside from that, neither Turks were here from the start nor Kurds. Most Kurdish populated areas of today belonged to Armenians and Assyrians. They were gradually replaced in some areas by first Turkmen arrivals, do not forget that Diyarbakir was once the capital of a Turkish Atabegh state.

Anyway; what really defined the ethnic makeup of the region was Ottoman´s policy against Alevite Turkmens around the time of Yavuz and later on. Alevite Turkmens were killed or exiled or had to assimilate, whilst Kurds, being sunni, were encouraged to push into their former lands. Armenian deportation/genocide/whatever was the final significant event that also contributed to kurdish expansion. In the end, the region is very mixed today, Kurds, Zaza, Turkmen, Arabs, assimilated/converted Assyrians, Armenians, other ancient people etc.

However one thing is certain, although there has been significant effort by Kurdish institutes in Europe, Kurdish claims on the heritage of ancient peoples of the region such as Urartu were never accepted by any scientific authority. Thus saying "Kurds were there before" is a completely baseless claim, please prove it otherwise if you have the sources.

Aside from that, Mylo´s words are correct, there have been Kurdish immigration, even as close as the time of Gulf war when 500.000 Kurds of Northern Iraq who fled from Saddam were granted Turkish citizenship by Ozal. These people are estimated to be around 2 millions of population by now.

This alone proves that Turkish state has not had any negative population policy against Kurds, yet it has to from now on by the look of things. They should start by kicking out these 2 million people back to Barzani´s laps, then they should detect pseudo-leftist European immigrants of dubious Turkish heritage posing as Turks and pay a visit to them.

Exactly , problem is that, many disturbed by this, Greeks claim western Anatolia is their land as well, so mongolic Turks should return to Central Asia ...

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So you are saying the people who built Göbekli Tepe or Çatalöyük...ummm...what? You are aware of the many different cultures have had their way within the current borders of Turkey?

Hattians, Akadian, Achaens, Hittitite, Ionian, Lycian, Pyrygia ...and on and on...not to mention it is part of the Fertile Crescent. Which is to say....the people who reside in Turkey are an amalgam of all the people who were there before.

Humanity has been interbreeding and moving around for millenia....

From what I understand, who lives in Turkey, who has Turkish citizenship is a Turk. You seem to be against nationalism, but until humanity learns to share resources, it is what we have. If you are a citizen of a country, it´s your duty to do what you can to improve the lot of your fellow citizens.

If you don´t have national pride, in the end, you won´t have a nation.

Kurdish people have always been used by their own feudal leaders.

How can a non individual make rebellion?

PKK is just another one of those which is managed by feudal leaders.

While feudal leaders be richer and more powerful, Kurdish society loses their welfare.

Ah I heard that thesis about ´Kurds are actually Turks´.. But many of the historians -apart from the ones paid by the states and trying to prove state´s bizaare theories- say that  when Turks started to run away from Mongolians and came to central Anatolia, Kurds were there as well as Armenians and many others .. I can dig it out who says that, of course but, to be honest, ´Kurds were actually Turks´ did not stick.. It was Kenan Evren´s and still a few racists historians idea in Turkey and not have any credibility at all.. And also most of the Turks when something goes wrong there such as ´honour killing etc´ they are so easy to ´seperate´ them as Kurds or non -Turks..

So I never thought we would debate here ´actually Kurds are Turks´ -or mountain Turks etc...

What you are saying about 500.000 Kurds or 2.000.000 kurds coming during gulf war is nothing to do with mylo´s ´kurds coming to Turkey generations after generations´.. is it?

One thing mylo said interesting was Mongolians coming to Anatolia long before Turks. That  was quite  interesting ..I hope he explains it abit more.. As far as I know, only around 2000 BC  some people from Caucasus -not sure if they were Mongolians- came.. But  after that ..Not sure..

I dont think we should kick Kurds out of the country but if necessary, we should send all the racists back to central Asia.. Because they dont fit into Anatolia´s multicultral mosaic..

You have to know the source of your statement especially if you talk about a historical event.

Otherwise you just be coffee house debater.

Regarding Diyarbakır Kurds were replaced to there before 1071 by Arabs to provide the domination of Islam, those are Mervanis and Sheddanis, and its right they were Kurds but in those lands as you said Assyrians and Armenians were living, very important point, Kurds were not majority, only the leaders are from Kurds, those were the puppet states established by Arabs. It is like Memluk state which located in Egypt, only the leaders were Turks. It does not mean then Egypt is the land of Turks because of Memluks and it does not mean South-East Anatolia is the land of Kurds because of Mervanis simply.