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100.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 04:49 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 These people?  Look in the mirror handsom....you are just as guilty.  You can´t see that you and those that think like you on either side of the debate (oience for example)....are the root of all of this bullshit.

 

This incessant need to be right all the time is just a snapshot of what happens between warring factions....a sampling of the larger, uglier problem!  No one stops.  No one says ok, this death was enough!  No one puts down their guns because they are "RIGHT"! 

 

There is no right or wrong anymore....all there is is a need to do one better than the last guy. 

 

Well you may think that way from the outside..

Show me one single post from me that I supported this war!!!

Show me one single post from me I said ´we will kill all of them´.

You are putting  warmongering people with the ones who "says enough is enough.. we need peace now" into to the same platform.. 

 

101.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 05:04 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well you may think that way from the outside..

Show me one single post from me that I supported this war!!!

Show me one single post from me I said ´we will kill all of them´.

You are putting  warmongering people with the ones who "says enough is enough.. we need peace now" into to the same platform.. 

 

 

 I´m surprised that you would be so literal.   I never said that you posted anything like "we will kill them all" (you are much more careful than that).  But when you can´t stop...when you push and push and push your own agenda....you are in the same "platform".  The fact that you can´t see that is not surprising in the least! 

 

What´s really pathetic though is that I think most of the time you only continue your arguments because you can´t stand to be wrong or to lose. 

 

102.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 05:21 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 I´m surprised that you would be so literal.   I never said that you posted anything like "we will kill them all" (you are much more careful than that).  But when you can´t stop...when you push and push and push your own agenda....you are in the same "platform".  The fact that you can´t see that is not surprising in the least! 

 

What´s really pathetic though is that I think most of the time you only continue your arguments because you can´t stand to be wrong or to lose. 

 

 

I dont have an agenda at all..I thought  you would have known this by now..

There is nothing wrong trying to stop a war or reminding people what  racism is, what is causing that war etc..!!

People who supported the Vietnam war were upset to see others telling them ´this war is a stupid war´.

You could not finish that war without upsetting the warmongering people!!

 

 



Edited (6/14/2010) by thehandsom

103.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 05:32 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I dont have an agenda at all..I thought  you would have known this by now..

There is nothing wrong trying to stop a war or reminding people what  racism is, what is causing that war etc..!!

People who supported the Vietnam war were upset to see others telling them ´this war is a stupid war´.

You could not finish that war without upsetting the warmongering people!!

 

 

 

 You don´t want to believe that you are part of the problem and clearly no one can make you see that.   The problem is....both sides think the same way and until someone figures out that in fact, they are part of the problem and decides to make a change....there will be more Pinars´. 

I will let you have the last word as I know you MUST and I have said all I need to.

104.       scalpel
1472 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 05:40 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

Dont cry, scalpel. There is a solution for you. Marry a Mongolian girl and you will become a central asian.

Are you sure about your ancestors though? {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

 

 

 Not really. My dad´s side is from Caucasia Batumi, and mom´s side is from Balkans Kosova...And my kid is half Kurdish! I can´t be a Turkish racist but some little brains think I am.

  

105.       Paramedic
24 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 06:12 pm

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

 Not really. My dad´s side is from Caucasia Batumi, and mom´s side is from Balkans Kosova...And my kid is half Kurdish! I can´t be a Turkish racist but some little brains think I am.

 

 

lets just buy a TC pony that eveyone can ride

106.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 06:20 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 You don´t want to believe that you are part of the problem and clearly no one can make you see that.   The problem is....both sides think the same way and until someone figures out that in fact, they are part of the problem and decides to make a change....there will be more Pinars´. 

I will let you have the last word as I know you MUST and I have said all I need to.

 

Well sorry but, we see all those hawks in both camps..

I  dont blong to any of them.. I never was..

I am a person who is refused to join  the main stream  and be a racist..

And I am well aware that ´refusing to join the main stream and reminding people what racism is´  make some people crazy..

And I am not sorry for that..

And if you think that stand of ´I dont want to be one of the people in the crowd´ makes me part of the problem..

Then let it be..

I still believe getting up and saying ´I dont agree with your stupid war´ to the face of hawks is the right thing to do.. 

 

 

 

107.       vineyards
1954 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 06:45 pm

Thehandsom you have explained your idea and I believe it is very well understood.

There is no need to continue with this. Stop implying that your fellow site users are racists etc. Racism is not just a shame, it has legal consequences too. There are also legal consequences of calling someone a racist on a public platform. If you continue with this, I will have to delete your posts.

 

I am trying to be as concise as possible. Don´t call people racists, bigots etc.

 

Those criticising thehandsom on the same ground, this warning applies to you too. Please observe the site rules. There is nothing to be gained from flaming one another...

 

108.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 06:58 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

Thehandsom you have explained your idea and I believe it is very well understood.

There is no need to continue with this. Stop implying that your fellow site users are racists etc. Racism is not just a shame, it has legal consequences too. There are also legal consequences of calling someone a racist on a public platform. If you continue with this, I will have to delete your posts.

 

I am trying to be as concise as possible. Don´t call people racists, bigots etc.

 

Those criticising thehandsom on the same ground, this warning applies to you too. Please observe the site rules. There is nothing to be gained from flaming one another...

 

 

You always have that freedom to delete my posts..

However, instead of trying to delete my posts because you think my posts are implying some people might be racists, you should be more careful about what posts constitutes to racism...

Being against racism is not a shame but being a racist is!!

109.       si++
3785 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 07:04 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I never heard of Mongolic Turks..

I think Mongolians belong to yellow race like Chinese but Turks are not..

 

 

Hansom, you sounded like you are into genetics of Turks when you provided some percentage of central Asion genes in today´s population of Turkey.

 

Didn´t you know Kazaks are descendants of Turkic tribes and Mongol groups, so are Tatars?{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

110.       oeince
582 posts
 15 Jun 2010 Tue 01:02 am

Girleegirl, you may not like my angry writing style.

 

If i was someone who does not feel the harms of terrorism i would criticize myself too.

 

However, our 40000 citizens died because of terrorism. That hurts very much.

 

Terrorism goes on in Turkey because some people introduce them as freedom fighters although they are just bloody terrorists. Some people tries to convince other people that PKK is working for Kurdish society although PKK just uses Kurdish people and its harmful for Kurdish people mostly. Some people tries to turn the ethnic differences to hatred although ethnic differences are the base fertileness of countries. Some people can describe a terrorist organisation as successeful and they can unblushinglycan introduce themselves as peaceful.

 

Turks and Kurds are brothers and sisters. Millions of people think like that. But just like a classroom turns to be chaotic by two rapscallion students, the country turns to be chaotic by a very little amount of people who supports terrorism.

 

These people do not want the problem to be solved. They own their involvement to the hatred that they create.

 

If these terrorism supporters let us free, Turkish and Kurdish people lives in harmony, with very high socio-economic living standarts.

 

As i told before, I am Turk as much as I am Kurt. If someone can blame me with being racist, he must suspect of his own subconscious. Especially, if this person blames Turkish people in all his writings.

 

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