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140.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 15 Jun 2010 Tue 11:33 pm

During the Turkish War of Independence, many Ottoman subjects of Greek origin sided with the invading Greek Army ...and openly rejoiced the arrival of the invaders, leading to many atrocities against their non-Greek neighbors; they were absolutely sure of the eventual Greek victory.

 

Whether or not they were right to side with the invaders of the Empire, is not my concern. What I know and history records however, is that the Greek Army dismally lost the war and abandoned their supporters in their hurry to run back to Greece. They did not even stop to look back.

 

The war had ended. Victorious Turkish soldiers were released from the army and were returning home, often to find their villages burnt down by their ethnically Greek neighbors. Young Turkish Republic was just out of a very long spell of wars..poor and very very tired...there was no way to stop an obvious vendetta, unless a way was found to evacuate the Anatolian Greeks to the safety of Greece.

 

The reverse was also true. Every Turkish village within the boundaries of Greece was a sad reminder to the returning Greek soldiers. Empire Turks, now in Greece, were no safer.

 

ATATURK saw that a mutual exchange of population was a sad, but an absolute necessity. VENIZELOS agreed and the exchange was made. No bloodshed on either side.

 

VENIZELOS later officially nominated ATATURK for NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, mainly for this act.

 



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141.       oeince
582 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 02:27 am

You are like a mosquito which disturbs people by keep buzzing.


You are even arguing with a person who always says “Kurdish people are my full brothers and sisters” and “hopefully we will acquire high socio - economic standards together” because you are fed with fights.


While people speak of ending terrorism and curing the wounds you keep asking “but who started the fight” like a kid and you sweep the conflict.


Your sayings about the beginning of PKK are lie in any case. Trying to introduce a terrorist organisation as a heroic public rebellion is terrorism itself. PKK is just a bloody terrorist organisation that is supported by foreign intelligence services.


Even if your sayings were right, while the government tries to improve living standards of Kurdish people, keep asking “but who started”, increasing terrorist attacks, and being opposite to these policies is slavishness. Translation of these is not to want serenity in the region. When you do these you unblushingly can talk about peace! What a hypocrite you are.


What you cannot stand is the possibility of the solution of the problems by the Turkish Government. The possibility of brotherly life of Kurdish and Turkish people makes you sick. Because you do not like a powerful and peaceful Turkey. What you want is improvement of PKK and BDP. You want to create the suitable conditions and at the end split South East Anatolia from Turkey. You are trying to disseminate the ideas which prepare the infrastructure of that bloody plan.


You are trying to imply that PKK owns room for negotiation in order they have killed thousands of people for the last three decades. However, the main reason of the problems is PKK itself. PKK is the enemy of both Turks and Kurds. While the government tries to cure the wounds that PKK made, implying that they have room for negotiation is supporting terrorism.


No no, Turkish and Kurdish people will solve all the problems. But no concessions will be given to terrorists. Kurdish people will feel that Turkish Government works to provide them highest level of living standards.  We already took a long way. At the end, Kurdish people themselves will externalize the biggest obstacle in front of them, PKK.


That day, you will be ashamed. Talk a bit more until that day. Scatter your poisons.


But don’t forget, Good ones always win!


I will be on a business visit until the middle of July with limited internet access. I hope you pull yourself together when I am not here.



Edited (6/16/2010) by oeince

142.       oeince
582 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 02:37 am

Anyone, who reads the statements finds out who writes informative posts and who keeps repeating his own agenda with different words.

 

I can describe where you shall be with that style but will not write it in public.

 

As i told before, you are the most disgusting and provaking person i met nowadays.

 

 



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143.       Paramedic
24 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 03:00 am

 

Quoting oeince

You stupid!

 

I read your writing!

 

You liar, you haven´t answered any of my questions, i explain my ideas clearly. You just play with words.

 

And you can think that you did sth good!

 

What a shitty mouth you have! What a bastard you are!

 

 

 

gee I get  in trouble for just saying a posting is lame and this is allowed ........... tuhhhhhhh



Edited (6/16/2010) by Paramedic

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144.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 05:16 am

 

Quoting Paramedic

 

 

gee I get  in trouble for just saying a posting is lame and this is allowed ........... tuhhhhhhh

 

 {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

145.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 10:19 am

 

Quoting oeince

You are like a mosquito which disturbs people by keep buzzing.

You are even arguing with a person who always says “Kurdish people are my full brothers and sisters” and “hopefully we will acquire high socio - economic standards together” because you are fed with fights.

While people speak of ending terrorism and curing the wounds you keep asking “but who started the fight” like a kid and you sweep the conflict.

Your sayings about the beginning of PKK are lie in any case. Trying to introduce a terrorist organisation as a heroic public rebellion is terrorism itself. PKK is just a bloody terrorist organisation that is supported by foreign intelligence services.

Even if your sayings were right, while the government tries to improve living standards of Kurdish people, keep asking “but who started”, increasing terrorist attacks, and being opposite to these policies is slavishness. Translation of these is not to want serenity in the region. When you do these you unblushingly can talk about peace! What a hypocrite you are.

What you cannot stand is the possibility of the solution of the problems by the Turkish Government. The possibility of brotherly life of Kurdish and Turkish people makes you sick. Because you do not like a powerful and peaceful Turkey. What you want is improvement of PKK and BDP. You want to create the suitable conditions and at the end split South East Anatolia from Turkey. You are trying to disseminate the ideas which prepare the infrastructure of that bloody plan.

You are trying to imply that PKK owns room for negotiation in order they have killed thousands of people for the last three decades. However, the main reason of the problems is PKK itself. PKK is the enemy of both Turks and Kurds. While the government tries to cure the wounds that PKK made, implying that they have room for negotiation is supporting terrorism.

No no, Turkish and Kurdish people will solve all the problems. But no concessions will be given to terrorists. Kurdish people will feel that Turkish Government works to provide them highest level of living standards.  We already took a long way. At the end, Kurdish people themselves will externalize the biggest obstacle in front of them, PKK.

That day, you will be ashamed. Talk a bit more until that day. Scatter your poisons.

But don’t forget, Good ones always win!

I will be on a business visit until the middle of July with limited internet access. I hope you pull yourself together when I am not here.

Ha ha

You got to be joking me lol

All I am saying is very simple even you CAN understand:

"we have a KURDISH PROBLEM and the terrorism is the side effect of it"

"If we solve our KURDISH PROBLEM, terrorism will go away"

OK?

Do you get it?

Shall I say it again?

BTW..I did not know you WERE that scared of me {#emotions_dlg.angel}

lol lol

146.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 10:32 am

 

Quoting oeince

Anyone, who reads the statements finds out who writes informative posts and who keeps repeating his own agenda with different words.

 

I can describe where you shall be with that style but will not write it in public.

 

As i told before, you are the most disgusting and provaking person i met nowadays.

 

 

 

Dont get upset!! {#emotions_dlg.angel}

 

Come on, gives us more examples like how Diyarbakir -a Kurdish populated city- is under developed because of their support for terrorism but Antalya on the other hand which does not suport terrorism has become rich.. lol lol

 

Stop trying to get personal..Really..You wont gain anything and you will make yourself a lauging stock.. lol

Why dont you stick to the subjects you think you know best!! Maybe footie?

Clearly, your ideas about Kurdish problem of Turkey is not beyond  delusional fantasies.

All those Foreign powers; intelligence agencies; countries dont like Turkey to become a power base; we are all innocent; they are our brothers; but they have to accept that they Turks first; they are still feudal but our brothers etc..

Come on!!

 



Edited (6/16/2010) by thehandsom

147.       si++
3785 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 10:46 am

 

Quoting oeince

Anyone, who reads the statements finds out who writes informative posts and who keeps repeating his own agenda with different words.

 

I can describe where you shall be with that style but will not write it in public.

 

As i told before, you are the most disgusting and provaking person i met nowadays.

 

 

 

oeince,

 

I agree with you that he keeps repeating himself and everyone gets sick of it.

 

You know what we had a Kurdish member here (named ciko) even he got sick of his posts about Kurds and asked for his account´s deletion. I remember his post very well but I couldn´t find it today when I searched for that post. Edit: Upon LIR´s post I tried user chico and the posts I am talking about are not deleted. Apperantly somebody with admin rights must have deleted it. So this guy is tolerated by our admins here. So beware you can get deleted because of this fight with him. Everybody who doesn´t agree with him is easily labeled as racist, fascist etc. and admins are apperantly on his side.

 

In the past, many valuable members were deleted because of the fights with this guy (ex: cynicmistic) or simply left this site (ex: erdinc) because of his terrorising this site with his usual stuff.

 

You know what, even I found myself with this guy one time in a fight. Now I look back it and think that it was waste of time, really.



Edited (6/17/2010) by si++ [LIR´s post about user chico]

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148.       oeince
582 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 10:46 am

Liar, Provaker and Terrorist,

 

Go on go on. These are your last flutters.

 

I am going to work for the following month to get rid of your fathers.

 

You go on to annoy people like mosquitos which have no profit for the world.

 

Thank you for introducing yourself and your kind to me again. I needed to remember that!

149.       oeince
582 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 10:48 am

Thanks si++

 

Hope to see you around after the middle of July

150.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Jun 2010 Wed 10:50 am

 

Quoting oeince

Liar, Provaker and Terrorist,

 

Go on go on. These are your last flutters.

 

I am going to work for the following month to get rid of your fathers.

 

You go on to annoy people like mosquitos which have no profit for the world.

 

Thank you for introducing yourself and your kind to me again. I needed to remember that!

 

NOOOO

Dont gooo...lol

What about the watermelon?

So you will be working for the full month? {#emotions_dlg.laugh_at}

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