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190.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 05 Apr 2011 Tue 12:04 pm

People who blame the victims of rape make me sick. No means no, no matter what the men or women is dressed in. (Yes, it can happen to men too)

191.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Apr 2011 Thu 12:06 am

 

Quoting si++

Atatürk was a great leader and did good things for his country. We are all grateful to him.

 

Thank you dear God for sending us such a great leader!

Is that a royal plural Si++? Or are you sure ALL Turks share yoru view? I know a few who don´t...not belittling Ataturk here, you know my opinion about him, just saying you can´t expect your hero to be everybody´s hero as well.

 

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192.       si++
3785 posts
 07 Apr 2011 Thu 09:29 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

Is that a royal plural Si++? Or are you sure ALL Turks share yoru view? I know a few who don´t...not belittling Ataturk here, you know my opinion about him, just saying you can´t expect your hero to be everybody´s hero as well.

 

 

"We" stands for me and those who think like me and we are majority and we don´t care about what others think like "you".

193.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 07 Apr 2011 Thu 10:22 am

If somebody is really that great, you should be able to handle criticism about your hero. Truly great people can be criticized and survive it, because their good influences surpasses the critique.

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194.       si++
3785 posts
 07 Apr 2011 Thu 10:51 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

If somebody is really that great, you should be able to handle criticism about your hero. Truly great people can be criticized and survive it, because their good influences surpasses the critique.

 

Yeah! Exactly! As we see him as a great leader, we don´t care about what others have to say. They just talk null and void, it sounds to us.

 

Have a good day!

195.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 01:41 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Yeah! Exactly! As we see him as a great leader, we don´t care about what others have to say. They just talk null and void, it sounds to us.

 

Have a good day!

 

Hm, there were a lot of angry reactions on the list... That doesn´t sound like "we don´t care what you say" to me.

 

196.       si++
3785 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 02:08 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

Hm, there were a lot of angry reactions on the list... That doesn´t sound like "we don´t care what you say" to me.

 

 

And it does sound like to me that it´s only your impression!

197.       si++
3785 posts
 09 Apr 2011 Sat 12:08 pm

Turkish Minister insults Armenian Diaspora

 

April 07, 2011 | 19:39

Turkish State Minister and Chief EU negotiator Egemen Bagis said French officials had assured him they would not contribute to adoption of draft bill on bringing criminal charges against *** Armenian Genocide deniers.

Egemen Bagis stressed that the bill contradicts freedom of speech, writes Turkish Aksam newspaper. He also called representatives of the Armenian Diaspora introducing such bills a “hate traders.”

According to Armenian sources close to the Socialist Party of France, the party has decided officially to use his parliamentary rostrum on May 4 (MPs can submit bills on this day) to submit the issue of ratification of the law penalizing denial of the *** Armenian Genocide for discussion, adopted by the National Assembly on October 12, 2006.

 

*** controversial issue. It´s "so called" by Armenians and pro-Armenians but Turks deny it.

 

Source: here

198.       si++
3785 posts
 14 Apr 2011 Thu 02:28 pm

Again the same racist poster!

Turkey condemns racism

Again the same racist poster!

Turkish and Moroccan immigrants as a sheep being kicked

The Turkish Embassy in Brussels has condemned a far-right party after it used posters depicting Turkish and Moroccan immigrants as a sheep being kicked out of Europe.


This poster was used before in Switzerland

The poster was presented at a conference of the anti-immigrant Flaman Vlaams Belang party over the weekend. It features a white sheep that symbolizes European states exiling a red sheep with printed flags of Turkey and Morocco. It reportedly is based on a similar poster used earlier in another European country, Switzerland.

Racist and xenophobic

Turkish Ambassador to Belgium Murat Ersavcı said in a statement that Turkey condemned the poster, saying it was racist and xenophobic and that it stirs ethnic hatred. "It thus constitutes a crime under Belgian law," the ambassador said, underlining that Turkey was in contact with the Belgian Foreign Ministry and other authorities to express its objections over and seek action against the poster.

´Flemish cities have begun to look like Moroccan cities´

Speaking at the weekend conference, Vlaams Belang leader Bruno Valkeniers said Flemish cities have begun to look like Moroccan cities, with mosques mushrooming all over the region, and called on the Belgian government to shut the country´s doors to immigrants. Valkeniers also proposed the establishment of an anti-immigration network bringing together other like-minded parties across Europe.

Vlaams Belang is only one of the far-right parties denouncing immigration that has been witnessing a surge in their electoral support in the past years in Europe. In liberal Sweden, the far-right Sweden Democrats, a party with a neo-Nazi history, won 20 seats in the parliamentary elections in September. In the Netherlands, the country´s center-right minority government depends on support from anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders´ Party for Freedom, and polls show the party is second only to the Liberals.

 

Source: here

199.       si++
3785 posts
 18 Apr 2011 Mon 03:25 pm

Demolition begins on controversial monument in Turkey´s Kars

Work to demolish the monument continued despite heavy rain in the area, according to reports.


Work to demolish the monument continued despite heavy rain in the area, according to reports.

Demolition work has begun to tear down the controversial “Monument to Humanity” in the eastern province of Kars, a sculpture described as “freakish” by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in January.

The area where the monument currently stands was cleared Sunday in accordance with environmental procedures. The massive statue will be cut from top to bottom into large pieces and carried away using a 200-ton piece of machinery that is being brought to Kars from Istanbul.

“If [sculptor Mehmet Aksoy] wants to have the parts [of his monument] back, we can give them back,” Kars Mayor Nevzat Bozkuş previously said, daily Radikal reported April 7.

 

Source: here

200.       si++
3785 posts
 24 Apr 2011 Sun 11:27 am

U.S. President goes back on his pledge again

 

April 24, 2011 | 07:59

Since being elected U.S. President, Barack Obama has made his third address to the Armenian community in the United States in commemoration of the *** Armenian Genocide.

However, as during his previous addresses, the U.S. President used the term Meds Yeghern (Arm. Great Massacre), without qualifying the crime as genocide.

U.S. Congressmen Frank Pallone and Ed Royce called on the U.S. President to recognize the *** Armenian Genocide.

In his address Obama said the 1915 killings of about 1.5 million Armenians proved “one of the worst atrocities of the 20th century.” In his statement, Obama said "contested history destabilizes the present and stains the memory of those whose lives were taken." He said America knows this from the dark chapters in its own history.

Armenians in California and the System of a Down leader held protest against Barack Obama.

“I have consistently stated my own view of what occurred in 1915, and my view of that history has not changed. A full, frank, and just acknowledgement of the facts is in all our interests,” the U.S. President said.

“I support the courageous steps taken by individuals in Armenia and Turkey to foster a dialogue that acknowledges their common history,” Barack Obama said.

The Republican Party of Armenia states:

In his address Barack Obama pointed out Armenians’ contribution to various areas of life in the United States. He stressed that the 1915 events must be a guarantee that the “devastating events like these are never repeated.”

One of Barack Obama’s election pledges was to recognize the Armenian Genocide. However, he has gone back on his pledge once again.

 

Source: here

 

*** Controversial subject. Armenians and Westerners accept it, but Türks deny it!

 

 

Such a shame! Obama don´t forget what you promised to Armenians. Why don´t you keep it. We are sick of this "The president of the USA will say ´genocide´ this year, no he will not say it" thing every year. Just keep it, and then let´s see what will happen.

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