Good evening to everyone.
I have to be quick toninght, so I will write in English.

First of all a sincere and much oblidged "thank you" to Cyrano, Edrinc et al for their help.

Daydreamer, your questions did not bother me at all, you had every right to ask, no need to apologise.

Görüþürüz

See you

Hello tabard,

I apologize to both of you since I had missed the letter g in there. So, it should have become Sevgili (Daydreamer). You are right, sevgilim is the most common addressing on love-letters. As for the other addressing; we don't use words like sir and madam after Sayın.

1. Sayın İlgili (formal) = Dear Sir or Madam

This means "to one who is concerned" since we don't know whom we addresse and if that person is sir or madam.

2. Sayın/Saygıdeğer tabard (formal) = Honorable tabard

Sayın Beyefendi/Hanımefendi (Honorable Sir/Madam) wouldn't be wrong, but this use is uncommon. We usually use the name or statue of the person. Examples:

Sayın/Saygıdeğer Ãœye = Honorable Member
Sayın Bakan = Honorable Minister
Sayın Cyrano de Bergerac = Honorable Cyrano de Bergerac

3. Sevgili/Sevgideğer tabard (informal and polite)

4. Sevgili: : This can be also used in the sense of "sevgilim", you can see this use in especially literary texts, but the context doesn't allow you to consider it as "my lover" as long as one whom you address isn't your lover.

I have noticed that turkish learners usally prefer to use bana as the equivalent of "me". As you know, in Turkish there are two forms as equivalent of "me" in English. beni is usually a direct object while bana is an indirect object. Thus,

Beni gülümsettin = You made me smile

Beni here (like "me") is direct object. And it is/was Daydreamer who caused your smiling. And the actual action was done by Daydreamer whether she herself wanted to do this or not. (this is another story.) But the example below is what you pointed.

Babam o işi bana yaptırttı = My father made me do that work. - "bana" (indirect object), "o iş" (direct object).

Similarly,
Düşmanımı bir katile öldürttüm. - katil(indirect object), düşmanım (direct object)
Mektubu müdüre imzalattım. - müdür(indirect object), mektup (direct object)
Anne çocuğu doğurdu. – çoçuk(direct object)
Annem beni doğurdu. – beni(direct oject)

So, we can generalize that we choose -i hali of word(ben-i, çocuğ-u) when we need to use a direct object; –e hali of word (ban-a, katil-e, müdür-e) when we need to use an indirect object.

And, as the last thing, here are tiny corrections of your Turkish text.

"Çok iltifat ediyorsun(1) Daydreamerim, beni gülümsettin. Ama kabul edelim ki(2), ne benim ne de senin Türkçen mükemmel. Sana göre, yazdıklarımın birkaçı/birazı mükemmel. Ama aynı anda(3), bana göre, senin de yazdıklarının birkaçı/birazı mükemmel. Fakat ikimiz de biliriz ki, çok hata yapıyoruz.

Biliyorsun, hiçbir zaman inanmıyordum onları yazabileceğime. Bu forum o şansı bize vermiş, onun için forum yöneticisine ve yardımcılarına çok çok teşekkür ederim. Maalesef "okulumda" yalnızca öğreniyoruz(4), konuşma ya da pratik yok.

Not: Ãœniversite öğrencisi değilim. Çoktan beri üniversiteden mezun oldum. Evli ve çalışan bir adamım. Sadece buradaki üniversite, akşamleyin, yabancı dil dersleri veriyor. Türkçe'yi seçtim. Haftada üç saat öğreniyorum."


1. You could also use:
Övmek: Beni övüyorsun. (polite)
Pohpohlamak: Beni pohpohluyorsun. (impolite)

2. The equivalent of "admit" here must be "kabul/itiraf etmek"(confess, aknowledge).

3. "an" here is not incorrect, "zaman" however has common use. "Ama aynı zamanda"

4. According to your English expression there, "öğrenme ediyoruz" is not incorrect, and is understood what you wanted to say. But this isn't good use, so it would be enough to use only "öğreniyoruz" just like when you used "öğreniyorum" at the end of your note.

tabard,

Your Turkish is highly good. You are doing great job. Please continue...

Greetings.

Sevgidiðer Cyrano de Bergerac,

Açýklarýnýz dýkkatle inceledim, onlarýn için size çok teþekkür ederim. Ýki ekstra/ilave(?) sorum var, onlarý açýklayabilirseniz iyi olurdu.

Dear tabard,

Yes, as you guess, there is an e-case in "yazabileceğim-e". Because, as you know, there is a case of direction in there. Your belief regarding your being able to write is directed toward the action(verb). And "to be able to write" here is the object of your belief. In these cases, there is always an e-case. Glance at these:

bana = to me
sana = to you
tatil-e = to holiday
bina-y-a = toward the building
gülme-y-e başlamak = to begin to laugh
yüzme-y-e çalışmak = to try to swim

and so on...

On the other hand, you could also say, for example:

"yazabileceğim-i sanmıyordum".

Here is "i-case". There is no case here which is directed toward the action. The main verb(sanmak)directly deals with the second verb(yazmak)itself. Smilarly,

görme-y-i istemek
gülme-y-i bırakmak
yazma-y-ı düşÃ¼nmek


As for the other point, first I have to say my English, as you already knew, is too poor to enlighten you in any Turkish subject.

"-ca" in "yalnızca" makes the meaning clearer. Otherwise, there would be ambiguity in the sentence.

"Maalesef okulumda yalnız öğreniyoruz".
"Maalesef okulumda yalnızca öğreniyoruz."

The second one definitely express that you are only learning, and you aren't doing something else, such as practicing.

İt is just like: sade - "sadece"

"Maalesef okulumda sadece öğreniyoruz."

The meaning here is clear too.

Sorry tabard, I did my best; still I don't think I made the points clear. Maybe someone else would make them clearer for this time.

Greetings.

arkadaşlar merhaba...
bu forumdan yeni haberim oldu...
ben de türküm ve türkçe öğrenmeye çalışanlara her konuda seve seve yardımcı olurum...

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