Hayır tam tersi seni kırmak istemiyorum . kendımı zorluyorum ama seninle yapamıyorum çünkü sonra kendimi çok kütü hisediyorum .sana verebılecek en ıyı yapabıldıgım kadarını verdım. evet bılıyorum bu pek parlak degıldı.sorun su kı bızım tenımız uyusmuyor . Dünyanın sonu değil ya bir şey yasadin ve bitti seni her hangi bir konu için kandırmadım bence böylesi daha iyi hoşça kal.

No, on the contrary, I did not want to hurt you. I am forcing myself but I cannot do it with you because afterwards I feel really bad. I made the best decision I could for you. I know it was not very brilliant. The problem is there is no physical appeal between us. It is not the end of the world, you lived something and it is over. I did not cheat you about anything. I think it is better this way. Good bye.

No on the contrary I dont want to break your heart. Im trying hard but I cant stay with you because afterwards I feel bad about myself. I gave you the best of what I could do for you. Yes I know that it wasnt so bright. The problem is so that we dont have chemistry. Its not the end of the world huh you had an experience and its over I havent deceived you in any issue I think its better this way farewell.

"ten uyumu" doesnt mean only chemistry, it means "sexual chemistry". It literally means "skin harmony".

if you dont know about something please dont bother attempting to correct it.

"Ten uyumu, dokunmayı karşı koyulamaz hale getiren, feromonlar gibi hormonal, bilinçaltı süreçler gibi psikolojik ve tarafların birbirlerinin cinsel anlayışına hitap eden öğelere sahip olması durumu gibi, sosyal çerçevelerde iki kişi arasında meydana gelen olumlu ve çekici etkileşimlere verilen isimdir."

http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_uyumu

ten uyumu is not only sexual. its also a social aspect and interaction. if you say sexual chemistry than the other side will only understand sexuality. its a different way of saying "we dont go well together"

"rtaya çıkışında feromonların en önemli rolü oynadığına inandığım, ilişkilerde(her türlü ilişki, yalnızca cinsellik olarak algılamamak lazım) gidişatı belirleyecek olan unsurların en önemlisi. önemli çünkü bilinçaltı süreçlerle kontrol edildiği için, karar verme mekanizmalarımızdan -dolayısıyla da bilincimizden- uzak olarak gidişatı kontrol etme pozisyonuna ve yetisine sahiptir."

either way its something chemical. the whole reason why "chemistry" made its way into the slang was because of the "reaction" that happens between two people, hormonal, nerval or methapohrically speaking.

people will laugh at you if you say "skin harmony" to someone that you want to say there is mutual attraction between you two. because it means something that resembles to dermathology or spa.

"Skin and Body Harmony, LLC is a female owned skin care and wellness center in Stone Mountain, GA. Our mission is to provide customized skin care services, natural skin care products and holistic wellness therapies to health savvy women while reducing our carbon foot print on the environment. Celebrities enjoy the privacy and personalized service we offer both in our location or at their home/studio.  Our goal is to provide quality treatments and education."

http://www.skinharmony.co.uk/

http://www.skinharmony.se/

http://www.harmonyskincare.com/

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Glow-Hair-Skin-and-Harmony/158978750786995

http://www.skinandbodyharmony.com/

you cant translate idioms literally.you need to translate them with other idioms or reference to its meaning.

plus "physical appeal" definitely doesnt do, as the other side will simply think that he/she doesnt like him/her because of his/her physical appearance or just not "his/her type". ten uyumu is something that has almost nothing to do with physical appearance

You are mixing the nouns appearance and appeal, burakk.

oh you mean you were trying to say immaterial attraction when you said "physical appeal" ?

Yes, you are right as always, and I agree with you that ten uyumu literally means skin harmony

Ten (skin) also may refer body (as in the following lyrics)

Soyun da gir koynuma / tenim ilaçtır benim 

So, ten uyumu means  harmony between two bodies.

You know, higher sexuality is harmony between two bodies tuned up using the same tuner! 

It is still sexual chemistry

really? when was the last time you had social sex? or psychological?

Sex is a social and pshycological phenemonon too. Read Freud and you will see the importance of sex in human pshycology.

yeah thats exactly what im saying. thats why the attraction between two people is not onl sexual. at least not in th "ten uyumu" meaning

there is no point in trying to defend something thats obviously wrong. dont be ashamed we all do mistakes

We have different opinions. There is no need to argue more.

It is not obviously wrong, actually  it is not wrong at all.  Forget everything and get on the street and ask 10 people on the street if what comes to their mind when they hear "ten uyumu" , 9 out of 10 will automatically say it is  "sexual harmony". Thats what that term means in people´s mind. 

Yeah because ten(skin) obviously implies sex. It doesnt imply character or soul.

TDK,  Güncel Türkçe Sözlük  

i dont think so. acutally many people think about touching when you say ten uyumu. rest thinks it has something to do with personal attraction http://eksisozluk.com/ten-uyumu--206199

but go in the street in an english speaking country and ask them what "skin harmony" is all of them will say something about dermothologic commercials. ask them "sexual chemistry" and they will ask you why you are making the distinction between chemistry and sexual chemistry, since one includes the other.

AD AKTARMASI (MECAZ-I MÜRSEL)

Bir sözcüğün benzetme amacı güdülmeden başka bir sözcüğün yerine kullanılmasıdır. Buna Düz Değişmece ya da Mecaz-ı Mürsel adı verilir.

Temel anlamıyla bağlantılı olarak zamanla ortaya çıkan değişik anlamlara yan anlam denir. Sözcüğün gerçek anlamının dışında, ancak gerçek anlamıyla az çok yakınlık taşıyan yeni anlamlar kazanması yan anlamı oluşturur. Bir sözcüğün yan anlam kazanmasında genellikle yakıştırma ve benzerlik ilgisi etkili olmaktadır.

also i dont understand why you guys cant handle the fact that i correct your mistakes

My biggest mistake was to take you serious. Please correct it too.

Nessah you support the enemy? Traitor 

you wouldnt get angry over my correction if you thought that taking me serious was a mistake. correct that

enemy? was my correction of your mistake was so hostile for you? wow man/woman you should really work on your ego

Yes if yours was a real correction.

so you are doing ego trips about something that you dont think is real?

I guess so.

glad that we agree on the fact that you objections are virtual

It doesnt mean it is wrong because I think it is real. Most of the time what I think real is real. And it is not different now

the fact that they are virtual means that they are biased on personal emotions and are subjective, which is fallacy. unless you take pleasure from defending things that you think are wrong

Sorry , I can´t go to English Speaking country. I thought  we are discussing [""] a a term in Turkish "Ten Uyumu" said by a Turk.

Lets come back to Turkish streets ! 

The thing is I defend what I think is real which is real and you defend what you think is real which is not

What  a plava !!!

you cant make things unreal by just saying so. thats called personal assurence, mostly happens after a great shock of failure. im sorry i caused such an effect on you by simply pasting you several sources about it

But your source says the same thing what I say. Sex is not only a physical phenemenon. If you desire someone it is a sexual thing. And ten uyumu is about sex. What do you think it is about for God´s sake? It is about friendship?

no we are clear on what ten uyumu means in turkish, we were just discussing how to express it better in english since its translation from turkish to english. translating TO english concerns what an average english speaker thinks when you say the word, not what a turk on the street thinks. and besides i alredy linked you to ekşisözlük which i believe to be as closest as we can get on the "streets" from the internet.

i will referr you to my first post where i linked gokuyum to several sources that shows that "skin harmony" really doesnt mean anything between the skin of two people. just make a google or youtube search

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=skin+harmony&oq=skin+harmony&gs_l=youtube.3...1215.3897.0.4065.12.12.0.0.0.0.152.1323.4j8.12.0...0.0...1ac.1.HZZ6DHCeAI0

no. my source says that ten uyumu is not only about sex. you say its only about sex and nothing else. please use your eyes while reading

I am really tired. I dont want to argue anymore. What I will say last is "ten uyumu" is "sexual chemistry"

i would get tired too if i received so many blows to my ego

Let´s stop this this never ending discussion as poor LadyA is already upset by what she learnt in her translation.. to respect her feelings lets stop this stupid discussion.

I did. But some people really like oral masturbation

its your resistance to correction that keeps it going, and my protest against your subjectivity. dont make extra excuses now since you are proven wrong

You deserve it! 

E tu Brutus?

yeah i agree. your mother loved that a lot

*runs away after dropping the bomb*

Hocam büyüksün! 

Why do you include my mother to discussion? It shows how a person you are. 

burak stop it, thats very rude and childish thing to say

Nessah do you see who you support?

exactly!!

its not that..it just this type of stupid arguments has been recorded many many times on tc, and never helped to learners , on the contarary its just given only one message that is   turks likes to arguing on  stupid things. 

I am not representitive of Turks. It is a big responsibility to carry for me

i havent been a member here for that long and every week i see fights like this here, its so silly and stupid. sometimes i just shake my head and thinking is this really a site for LEARNING and HELPING people with turkish language??, cuz it sure doesnt look like it most of the time.

There are many egoist people in this forum including me. So it is normal that we fight a lot. But I never include others´ mothers and sisters into my fights. This is really pitiful.

To be honest, I have involved in many stupid arguments in the past too. And I realized that this type of arguments are just satisfying our egos but on the other hand it is being such a bad example for learners and it puts them off . 

there is never a winner ..

lets go back to our main goal "teaching Turkish" [helping Turkish learners]

I agree withh Gokuyum, We should not involve our mothers in this. cos it is unacceptable and will cause a big fight.

Tunci, let me kiss you dear

Do not we really? 

Hocam, do not let him kiss you!

Are you jealous?

For some moments i thought i was in a greek site 

Of course we dont

You cant find men like us in greek sites

Now, this discussion is about to giving birth to another discussion --->  Turkish Men  versus Greek Men..

Please represent Turkey tunci You are  a good example. I vote for you.

Hmmmm don´t take it for granted 

Nothing new and interesting? 

I am off  this thread, good nite friends ! 

Turkish delights are best

Good night tunci.

why dont ya´ll talk in private or in somewhere else and give some respects to Lady_A? my god....

Meh. We dont even talk about her.

In first I don´t blame learners who are share messages to know the translation ..and I have done it in the past ,,but I know after that .it is a wrong thing

so the big problem in my opinion it is thrown our personal messages for translation

I am really regret cause i have done it in the past

But I should to say something all translators here are very Respectable

My vote, as well, goes to him

Sexiest man

I think you are not supposed to be lokumi.. What about being red bitter pepper? 

Pepper to enemies, lokum to friends

Guys,

It´s just now that I returned to the forum and read all your messages. I could not believe my eyes when I saw 78 replies.

Let me tell you my opinion on the matter, that is neither Turkish or English

Although I would like to believe burakk´s translation more, because it´s less difficult to accept, I have to also pay attention to the number of persons who agree with gokuyum´s translation. Given the context only I am aware about, the "more than just sexual" chemistry applies, but I guess I will never know what he really meant exactly.

So thank you for trying to make it clear for me, no offense taken from the discussions you have had about my message. I have no problem about privacy as I am very much aware that I am exposing my personal life when requesting the translations.

You are an open person and there is a charming fragrance of honesty, stay that way.

Once there was a proverb in the translation section here, it came to my mind when I read the message....here it is:

Yol gidenindir peşinden ağlayamam. Yüreğim ahır değil her öküzü bağlayamam. ´I cannot cry after every one who leaves. My heart is not a byre, I cannot tether every ox there.´

Thank you for what you said and for the proverb which is so true

i like this proverb, it is very true......thanks for turkish and english side by side