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Honor Killing in Turkey
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 02:02 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: remember we all live in Turkey, kurds, turks etc...
how can you seperate them?? |
+1. We have to accept many cultures make up England now - Turkey is no different.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 02:06 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: remember we all live in Turkey, kurds, turks etc...
how can you seperate them?? |
+1! And by seperating in we (the good ones) and they (the bad ones) I don't think any problem of any kind will be solved.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 02:46 pm |
Quoting scalpel: i noticed sth.no turkish guy here tells the truth.i do know what makes 'em afraid of telling the truth.first,it must be known that "honor killing" or whatever its name,never related to the turkish culture,but kurdish culture.it happens only among kurdish people.if its western turkey,its again kurdish people.sex is not a taboo anymore for turks especially in big cities like istanbul, ankara, izmir,antalya etc,etc,etc...for example they say majority of the turkish girls in istanbul have sex before marriage.it most probably is the same as in izmir and ankara.and no girl's killed. im not saying its good or bad.just pointing out a fact.i dont understand why some wants to draw another pic of turkey. |
I don't know which part of Turkey you are living in Scalpel but where Iam living sex isn't as free as you make it out to be! In various parts of Izmir, Ankara or Istanbul it may be that girls have sex before marriage etc, but Turkey is such a huge country, and so much of Turkey is made up of rural areas, I think Turkey has a long way to go before the majority of girls are free to have sex before marriage etc.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:04 pm |
Pardon me !
Maybe i'm a bit ignorant here,but is it for girls to have sex before marriage is one of the measures of civilized countries ?!
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:06 pm |
Quoting CANLI: Pardon me !
Maybe i'm a bit ignorant here,but is it for girls to have sex before marriage is one of the measures of civilized countries ?!
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Good point! However, it is the measure of civilised countries to have EQUALITY of both sexes. Therefore, if it is ok for men to have sex before marriage, then it must be ok for women.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:07 pm |
Quoting CANLI: Pardon me !
Maybe i'm a bit ignorant here,but is it for girls to have sex before marriage is one of the measures of civilized countries ?!
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No. Of course not. But if they have, it can NEVER be a reason for killing them!
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:08 pm |
And CANLI, why do you only query the acceptence of sex before marriage for WOMEN? As I said, EQUALITY is the measure of civilised countries..
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:09 pm |
Quoting CANLI: Pardon me !
Maybe i'm a bit ignorant here,but is it for girls to have sex before marriage is one of the measures of civilized countries ?!
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how did you come up with this, i am really trying to understand?
does anybody said that "in civilized countries, girl must have sex before marriage" ?
why you are interested so much in that?? why dont you leave those to the persons privacy?? is virginity only between legs??
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:11 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting CANLI: Pardon me !
Maybe i'm a bit ignorant here,but is it for girls to have sex before marriage is one of the measures of civilized countries ?!
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Good point! However, it is the measure of civilised countries to have EQUALITY of both sexes. Therefore, if it is ok for men to have sex before marriage, then it must be ok for women. |
EXACTLY....EQUALITY !!! This is what this whole debate is all about... how little a female is thought of in this instance ! So little, in fact, that she is less important than the family cow (as read in a previous post)
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:20 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: And CANLI, why do you only query the acceptence of sex before marriage for WOMEN? As I said, EQUALITY is the measure of civilised countries.. |
aenigma x,i didn't say its acceptable for men to have sex before marriage either,and ofcourse i agree with all the posts against honor killing as they called it,no one has the right to end someone else life except ALLAH,because HE gave it so HE take it.
Except in some cases which ALLAH permit for the law to do this.
İ didn't post anything in this thread before,because i didn't see i can add something to the topic,as i can see we are agree that we are against it,but i just saw it driftting to this point.
So i thought maybe i don't get it and its one of the measures of civilization,that we must seek or defend that our country is civilized because the girls can,or already have sex before marriage !
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:25 pm |
Sex before marriage is irrelevant here. The point is that women are being abused, beaten or killed for doing something that is acceptable for men to do.
I am curious by your post though - please could you enlighten me as to the laws with which Allah permits people to kill one another?
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