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Honor Killing in Turkey
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:13 pm |
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every people has their own forbidden apples by their backrounds,traditions ,beliefs etc...and pity thats (honor killing) one of most terrible tradition in a little part of Turkish people,and i think thats only bad education metter,and humans have to know they can not punish others by their strange and silly rules.anyway we have to try understand each people has their different freedom opinion to....so its better trying to understand diffrences then to judge em easly,even if its not true or terrible for us..
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:17 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: ....so its better trying to understand diffrences then to judge em easly,even if its not true or terrible for us.. |
I am sorry MrX67, but as hard as I try, I fail to understand this particular 'difference'. As usual people are being defensive about Turkey instead of commenting on this issue on a worldwide perspective.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:20 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: every people has their own forbidden apples by their backrounds,traditions ,beliefs etc...and different freedom opinion to....so its better trying to understand diffrences then to judge em easly.. |
Do you think this, really?  I can assure you I have no "forbidden apples" and definitely none which involve killing another human being.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:24 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: every people has their own forbidden apples by their backrounds,traditions ,beliefs etc...and different freedom opinion to....so its better trying to understand diffrences then to judge em easly.. |
Do you think this, really? I can assure you I have no "forbidden apples" and definitely none which involve killing another human being. |
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:26 pm |
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OK, so message from Kai and MrX67 is to accept this and do nothing. Thank goodness there are other people in this world who challenge such evil, and do not sit and do nothing...
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:30 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: OK, so message from Kai and MrX67 is to accept this and do nothing. Thank goodness there are other people in this world who challenge such evil, and do not sit and do nothing... |
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:35 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: No no no! I just cannot agree with you Kai. You think we should all sit back and accept what is wrong because of different cultures and traditions? If we all sat back and did nothing, we would not be enjoying the freedom that we currently have. It is easy for you to say this as you sit in your nice warm home, feeling safe from harm.
People CAN and DO change things for the better. It is the brave ones who are willing to make an effort to protest, to write letters, to discuss these things who make change. If we all did nothing, we would be living like cavemen.
Culture is one thing, tradition is one thing - basic human rights are quite another.
How the hell can you say this...?
Quoting kai: ... I mean Honour killings isn't the worst thing in the world and it isn't exactly rare(though it is very bad indeed)... |
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Noooo Aenigma! I didn't mean that we should accept those issues, no-one wishes to, including myself! what I am trying to say is that no matter how much the wonderful people try to help, vile cases such as these are still going on 
I said what I said about honour killings because it is true they are not rare (unfortunatly to say) as you can see people have said they are happening all over the world. I said it isn't the worst thing, but I without a doubt did not mean that it was good in any case! I just merely am pointing out other horrific issues in the world that I think are worse than honour killings.
And as for your comment; "It is easy for you to say this as you sit in your nice warm home, feeling safe from harm."
I have been in danger for my life (one time along with a friend. I blame myself for it was me who put her life in danger)....I have lived in some of the worst places in the UK and have seen such things that would make some people be sick...so really I have been far from safe in my life.
I hope you didn't get offended because I didn't mean what you said at all!
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:40 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: i spent my all life for fight with wrongs and bads,and i'm always on sidde of trues,except once thing and thats to be prejudged...how anyone can defence honor killing or something like this shame,but we all have to try understand things by to be objective for make all badness less.. |
How can understanding make the badness less? How can you call me prejudging? There is no amount of understanding or truths that make honour killings acceptable.
Let me give an example. As little as 50 years ago, paedophiles were commonplace in society (including UK). The majority were "hushed up" by family members and the subject was taboo. There were never any prosecutions for this horrible crime. It was almost part of the culture. Even policemen would "hush up" this horrible act. It would be considered a shame on the family if it was discussed.
Now tell me how an understanding of this 'culture' would make this more acceptable? Luckily many brave people had to stand against this for it to become considered the crime it is today.
What is the difference?
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:43 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: i spent my all life for fight with wrongs and bads,and i'm always on sidde of trues,except once thing and thats to be prejudged...how anyone can defence honor killing or something like this shame,but we all have to try understand things by to be objective for make all badness less.. |
How can understanding make the badness less? How can you call me prejudging? There is no amount of understanding or truths that make honour killings acceptable.
Let me give an example. As little as 50 years ago, paedophiles were commonplace in society (including UK). The majority were "hushed up" by family members and the subject was taboo. There were never any prosecutions for this horrible crime. It was almost part of the culture. Even policemen would "hush up" this horrible act. It would be considered a shame on the family if it was discussed.
Now tell me how an understanding of this 'culture' would make this more acceptable? Luckily many brave people had to stand against this for it to become considered the crime it is today.
What is the difference? |
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:54 pm |
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Scalpel is right about the ethnic background of those traditions. I mentioned the same thing in a more polite way in my post before Scalpel.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:52 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x:
Let me give an example. As little as 50 years ago, paedophiles were commonplace in society (including UK). /QUOTE]
Paedophiles are still common in society and always will be.
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