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Honor Killing in Turkey
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:52 pm |
Quoting IZMIR060406: Hey! Was this thread not about killing poor innocent girls / women. Forgive me for being an idiot here, but are these women on trial for something....? |
Sorry for the confusion Iz, we went off topic (nothing unusual!). CANLI was not referring to the killing of women here
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:54 pm |
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:57 pm |
Quoting IZMIR060406:
Hey! Was this thread not about killing poor innocent girls / women. Forgive me for being an idiot here, but are these women on trial for something....? |
Heyyy,here is Tc what do you expect ??
We just went off the topic again,,lol
Out of habit lol
And yes as aenigma just said we were discussing it in generally
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:58 pm |
Quoting CANLI: Ohhh aenigma x,has it been cancelled then in courts ?
A killer doesn't send to death anymore ?
İ know it it still in so many countries,France and USA as well,sometimes using the electric chair too in USA. |
The death penality still exists in the U.S. Typically it is peformed by lethal injection, electrocution or lethal gas. Currently, out of 38 states that authorize the death penality, 37 of them are holding prisoners that are sentence to death. However, some of these prisioners sit on Death Row almost their entire sentence. Through the court systems here, there are so many appeals process that it could take years and years before an execution would take place.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 06:28 pm |
Quote: why dont you leave those to the persons privacy?? is virginity only between legs?? |
"Those who love (to see) scandal published broadcast among the Believers, will have a grievous Penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: Allah knows, and ye know not.." nur
where is it, if not EVEN there for both men and women?
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 06:32 pm |
Quoting alperhkn: "Those who love (to see) scandal published broadcast among the Believers, will have a grievous Penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: Allah knows, and ye know not.." nur
where is it, if not EVEN there for both men and women?
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It is EVEN. So why then, is it only women who are 'punished' ?
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 07:03 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting alperhkn: "Those who love (to see) scandal published broadcast among the Believers, will have a grievous Penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: Allah knows, and ye know not.." nur
where is it, if not EVEN there for both men and women?
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It is EVEN. So why then, is it only women who are 'punished' ? |
Men are punishing women because they are able to punish in this temporary life but we will see the real punishment in the Hereafter where:
"And fear the Day when ye shall be brought back to Allah. Then shall EVERY SOUL be paid what it earned, and none shall be dealt with unjustly." bakara
"On that Day will men proceed in companies sorted out, to be shown the deeds that they (had done).
Then shall anyone who has done an atom's weight of good, see it!
And anyone who has done an atom's weight of evil, shall see it. "zilzal
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 07:34 pm |
Overall what we are basically trying to say is that all over the world peoples rights are being abused left, right and center and it doesn't seem like it has any hope of stopping.
Peoples views on life are all different from one another so there will always be conflict in the world because the human race fail to accept people for who they really are just because they are not the same....whether it be race, religion, sex etc.
e.g. For a women to sleep around with many different men she is seen as a 'slut' or any other name you wish to use, but for a man....well....he gets a pat on the back and a cheer from his friends.
We ask ourselves why is it ok for some people to do things and not others....answer is: because thats how the world is, wheter we like it or not.
Some people are to stubborn to accept people who are different because they fear that they will be 'changed' from what they believe in and who they are...but if what they believe in was so strong they shouldn't have to worry about it in the first place....should they?
People think it's a shock to hear about killings and rapes that are going on in the world....ok I agree it is very disturbing and upsetting...but why shock? I mean Honour killings isn't the worst thing in the world and it isn't exactly rare(though it is very bad indeed)...
I was reading this book (a true story) and it was about people who worship the devil and have children for the purpose of sacrifice and one litle girl (age 6) saw unimaginable things that some of us wouldn't even have nightmares about in our life time.
Cannibalism is even still considered normal in some societies...though extremley rare nowadays.
So what do we call normal?.....for me their isn't a normal...peoples lives are different because of their upbringing...if someone were bought up in society where worshipping the devil was normal, then they would see nothing wrong with it and they would call this normal, where as someone born a Christian would be bought up to respect Jesus etc and see this as normal.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 07:54 pm |
Well said Kai. People do tend to be products of their enviornments, however what about the exceptions. The family that generation after generation has no education on welfare etc.. Then a sibling goes to college, gets a great job, is this person the abnormal?. I guess we can all sit back and think well this is how they were raised. I agree to this at a certain point, but we also have been given the power to learn, educate and make decisions. I tend to think this is just an excuse for people not to evolve. I happen to think there is normalcy, without it my life would be chaotic. Again, it all has to do with how you perceive and define "normal".
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 09:44 pm |
No no no! I just cannot agree with you Kai. You think we should all sit back and accept what is wrong because of different cultures and traditions? If we all sat back and did nothing, we would not be enjoying the freedom that we currently have. It is easy for you to say this as you sit in your nice warm home, feeling safe from harm.
People CAN and DO change things for the better. It is the brave ones who are willing to make an effort to protest, to write letters, to discuss these things who make change. If we all did nothing, we would be living like cavemen.
Culture is one thing, tradition is one thing - basic human rights are quite another.
How the hell can you say this...?
Quoting kai: ... I mean Honour killings isn't the worst thing in the world and it isn't exactly rare(though it is very bad indeed)... |
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 10:13 pm |
every people has their own forbidden apples by their backrounds,traditions ,beliefs etc...and pity thats (honor killing) one of most terrible tradition in a little part of Turkish people,and i think thats only bad education metter,and humans have to know they can not punish others by their strange and silly rules.anyway we have to try understand each people has their different freedom opinion to....so its better trying to understand diffrences then to judge em easly,even if its not true or terrible for us..
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