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50.       aenigma x
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 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:25 pm

Sex before marriage is irrelevant here. The point is that women are being abused, beaten or killed for doing something that is acceptable for men to do.

I am curious by your post though - please could you enlighten me as to the laws with which Allah permits people to kill one another?

51.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:27 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting CANLI:

Pardon me !
Maybe i'm a bit ignorant here,but is it for girls to have sex before marriage is one of the measures of civilized countries ?!



how did you come up with this, i am really trying to understand?

does anybody said that "in civilized countries, girl must have sex before marriage" ?

why you are interested so much in that?? why dont you leave those to the persons privacy?? is virginity only between legs??


İf you are asking how did i came up with that,you can read the privouse posts.

And if you are asking why am i so much interested in that,well i don't see how you came up with this,for that is my first post in that topic!

Beside i guess we are having a discussion here,so i'm entitled to have my opinion too,maybe you like or not,but it is my right to have an opinion as same as you do.
Don't you agree ?!

52.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:34 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Sex before marriage is irrelevant here. The point is that women are being abused, beaten or killed for doing something that is acceptable for men to do.

I am curious by your post though - please could you enlighten me as to the laws with which Allah permits people to kill one another?



İ didn't say ALLAH permit people to kill one another,please,read what i said again,i said
'Except in some cases which ALLAH permit for the law to do this'
İ said prmit the law,i meant by that HE permit it for human to do it by the law,
As when judges do and sent people to death for crims they have done,so ALLAH not against this.
Doesn't it permited in the English law in courts to send people to death ?
That is what i meant by that,ofcourse not for ordinary people to kill one another.
But ALLAH didn't permit any killing out of the law .

53.       aenigma x
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 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:37 pm

No, English law (or European law) does not allow ANYONE to kill another, law or not. Thank you for enlightening me CANLI, I didn't know this.

Tell me, is it written anywhere that Allah allows the law to do this?

54.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:41 pm

Ohhh aenigma x,has it been cancelled then in courts ?
A killer doesn't send to death anymore ?
İ know it it still in so many countries,France and USA as well,sometimes using the electric chair too in USA.

55.       aenigma x
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 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:43 pm

The last execution in the UK was in 1964. This followed many years of debate following cases where people had been found to be innocent after their sentences had been carried out.

I didn't realise Turkey had capital punishment.

56.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:46 pm

Ofcourse,it's written in holy books,not only in Qur'an.
İf a man kill another,then the ruler should send him to trial and if he is sure that he is the killer then he send him to death too.
aenigma ,i don't think that i am saying a new thing here,i'm sure you are familiar with is,for it was applying for many centuries there,even if its not applying by the law now,but it was there to a very near date too!

57.       aenigma x
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 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:47 pm

Thank CANLI! You learn something new everyday...

58.       IZMIR060406
194 posts
 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:50 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Ofcourse,it's written in holy books,not only in Qur'an.
İf a man kill another,then the ruler should send him to trial and if he is sure that he is the killer then he send him to death too.
aenigma ,i don't think that i am saying a new thing here,i'm sure you are familiar with is,for it was applying for many centuries there,even if its not applying by the law now,but it was there to a very near date too!



Hey! Was this thread not about killing poor innocent girls / women. Forgive me for being an idiot here, but are these women on trial for something....?

59.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:51 pm

İ don't know if Turkey has capital punishment or not.

And thank you aenigma x as well,you are so right,one learn new things everyday.

60.       aenigma x
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 26 Oct 2006 Thu 04:52 pm

Quoting IZMIR060406:

Hey! Was this thread not about killing poor innocent girls / women. Forgive me for being an idiot here, but are these women on trial for something....?



Sorry for the confusion Iz, we went off topic (nothing unusual!). CANLI was not referring to the killing of women here

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