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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:37 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: If the following idiots could not see the way he pointed to...can anyone blame Muhammad or Islam? |
Well, that is what I am saying. Many of the things in Quran are understandable from a historic perspective. But for backward countries, which Turkey belongs to in some matters, it is about time that they forget the historic perspective and start looking from a humanic or democratic perspective.
And the prophet is indeed said never to have beaten his wife, and to live a very pious life. But how can we be sure? None of the sources was written in the time he was alive, and even then only written by people who supported him. Information around the (nearly venerated!) prophet, are hardly to be trusted or thought to be overall true, but enjoyable to read and a good guidance for people.
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:42 am |
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This part of Islam has nothing to do with belief....It is sociology and phcychology...at its purest.
I generally know what I am talking about.
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:43 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: you are as fanatical as the guys who are responsible of Malatya trajedy. Just happens to be your religion is different!!
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do you really see the similliarities between me and them?
and btw if you dont protest against barbarity of islam, well, then whats the difference between you and those guys who quietly WATCH those women burn themselves alive?
do you have any idea how many of them burn themselves daily in islamic countries?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgcs0fbA8to
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:43 am |
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Quoting Umut_Umut: Why are you debating on a belief Apha. Its needless.  |
Sen de bu tartışmaya katılmışsın ama Its always good to talk about ones beliefs and learn others. Ama birbirmimize karşı açık olmalıyız, bir de kendimize açık olmalıyız. İnsan bazen yanlış şeylere inanıyor.
Ben dine karşı değilim, ama kesinlikle dinin yanında da değilim. Allah iyi bir tanrıysa, ben iyi bir yaşam yaşıyorsam, ne gerek var ki. Ama yine de, sizin dininiz de sizin açınızdan anlayıp öğrenmek istiyorum. Bu kadar
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:44 am |
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I think you took me wrong.
I meant Islam by saying belief.
Anyway you all have a nice night.
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:44 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting Umut_Umut: Why are you debating on a belief Apha. Its needless. |
Sen de bu tartışmaya katılmışsın ama Its always good to talk about ones beliefs and learn others. Ama birbirmimize karşı açık olmalıyız, bir de kendimize açık olmalıyız. İnsan bazen yanlış şeylere inanıyor.
Ben dine karşı değilim, ama kesinlikle dinin yanında da değilim. Allah iyi bir tanrıysa, ben iyi bir yaşam yaşıyorsam, ne gerek var ki. Ama yine de, sizin dininiz de sizin açınızdan anlayıp öğrenmek istiyorum. Bu kadar |
Ben yalnızca inancıma karşı terbiyesizlik edildiği için katıldım. Ve o kişiden saygılı olmasını rica ettim.
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:45 am |
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Quoting AlphaF:
What you have to understand is that Arab women before islam were treated like mere slaves. Owners or husbands had the right to flogg them at will. |
and kadisha was an american?
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:47 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting AlphaF: If the following idiots could not see the way he pointed to...can anyone blame Muhammad or Islam? |
Well, that is what I am saying. Many of the things in Quran are understandable from a historic perspective. But for backward countries, which Turkey belongs to in some matters, it is about time that they forget the historic perspective and start looking from a humanic or democratic perspective.
And the prophet is indeed said never to have beaten his wife, and to live a very pious life. But how can we be sure? None of the sources was written in the time he was alive, and even then only written by people who supported him. Information around the (nearly venerated!) prophet, are hardly to be trusted or thought to be overall true, but enjoyable to read and a good guidance for people. |
I for one resent the use of the world 'backward' here if you are refering to countries in comparison to the 'western world' then there are certainly more appropriate terms which could be used instead of this insult and demeaning one.
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:49 am |
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Quoting SERA_2005: I for one resent the use of the world 'backward' here if you are refering to countries in comparison to the 'western world' then there are certainly more appropriate terms which could be used instead of this insult and demeaning one. |
I am sorry, I in no way meant it to be as an insult or demeaning. I translated it from the Dutch word to English and the Dutch word doesnt necesarily have to have negative connotations. Sorry for the confusion, I meant it in the way of görece az gelişmiş.
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:49 am |
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barbarian girl is at work 
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