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130.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 01:11 am

Quoting Umut_Umut:

How can i be smarter than your computer Her majesty. lol

Thanks lot you made me laugh alot.


thats what im saying, you cant be smarter than my pc! lol
but you are trying so lol dont try!

131.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 01:12 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

oh, dear! a few criticism from femme, and it shows the whole beauty of pretenders of peace.



We can write it like that too >>

oh, dear! a few criticism from umut, and it shows the whole beauty of pretenders of peace.

132.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 01:13 am

Let us not lower the level of discussions here...

Even Arab camel holders of the desert have better "depth" in the desert fire discussions ))))))))))))

133.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 01:14 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

pls, tell me the phenomen of kadisha if arab women were opressed badly before islam. who told you those fairy tales, deli kizin? what was your proof? how come then there was a successful woman kadisha, and there wasnt ANY at all after she died?
btw, those arab women enjoyed their freedom until islam came and banned them from anything!
those pagan arabs (wild desert camel holders) wosrhipped different goddesses. that must be then a huge opression, deli kizin!?



I read them in 'scientifical' books about İslam, written by non-islamic people. They are true, for as far as 'İnvestigations' on matters with view written material from these times can be true, and they do not oppose your ideas at all, as for a big part I agree on them too.

When talking of Khadija, first we must realize that she was a widow, so maybe her fortune came from the MAN she was married with before, secondly, there are always exceptions to the rule , there have been more successful women after her, I believe Aisha to be one of them but I a not sure.

I am not saying I dont understand the opposing pagan Meccans to Muhammad's message, as he wished to change their tribal ancestor-based sunnah to a sunnah based upon one omni-potent God, nor do I say İslam is something GOOD for women. Im just saying some things are understandable from the historical perspectives, and therefore should be looked upon again with recent perspectives

134.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 01:20 am

Quoting AlphaF:

Let us not lower the level of discussions here...

Even Arab camel holders of the desert have better "depth" in the desert fire discussions ))))))))))))


withdraw omega withdraw.
your level of discussion is brilliant, omega, oh, you are wonderful gentleman, we all love to discuss on your so called LEVEL

btw, omega, you never seriously discussed with me on relgions, i suppose you arent able or your village mentality doesnt allow you, or you re afraid of me.

for the defence of islam i could hear only such statements like: "islam is beautiful, islam is peaceful, you re bad person, you are an idiot! "
i mean, what a depth! wow, deeply stated words, oh, im stunned by the statements of defenders!
what DEPTH you omega brought in?

btw, when the defenders cant defend or cant stand my critisms they start bothering me with pms, some threatening, some asking to stop. why? are you so much afraid that i may show the obscurity of islam?

added: how lucky you re to have western defenders!

135.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 01:27 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:



When talking of Khadija, first we must realize that she was a widow, so maybe her fortune came from the MAN she was married with before, secondly, there are always exceptions to the rule , there have been more successful women after her, I believe Aisha to be one of them but I a not sure.


scientific or science fiction?
well, as for kadisha being a widow, you are right, what happent to male inheritants of hers? she sure had male relatives to have given her wealth, if women were nothing at those times. so why as a woman was she left such wealth?
do you see what im saying? why was she allowed to become a rich woman? this doesnt fit me the whole picture.

many many? im impressed. oh, tell me about aisha, im interested. i possibly missed out some successful parts of her life?

136.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 01:30 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

scientific or science fiction?
well, as for kadisha being a widow, you are right, what happent to male inheritants of hers? she sure had male relatives to have given her wealth, if women were nothing at those times. so why as a woman was she left such wealth?
do you see what im saying? why was she allowed to become a rich woman? this doesnt fit me the whole picture.

many many? im impressed. oh, tell me about aisha, im interested. i possibly missed out some successful parts of her life?



I never said many I dont know all the details either, just writing what I learnt by now.

And she inherited much as it wasnt under İslamic rule yet that the man had to take care of her and thus deserved more money

Anyway, it was Khadija who supported Muhammad after he received the first revelation and thought a bad spirit had possessed him. It was her who thought he was sent a special message by the One and Only Omni-potent being of Allah

So actually it was this woman that you seem to like so much, who supported the Prophet to spread his message ı think she must be tired offering to all those different gods

137.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 01:30 am

Pressed 'Submit' twice. Sorry.

Goodnight everyone!

138.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 03:08 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting thehandsom:

you are as fanatical as the guys who are responsible of Malatya trajedy. Just happens to be your religion is different!!


do you really see the similliarities between me and them?

and btw if you dont protest against barbarity of islam, well, then whats the difference between you and those guys who quietly WATCH those women burn themselves alive?
do you have any idea how many of them burn themselves daily in islamic countries?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgcs0fbA8to


To be honest..YES. Both ideas, both approaches are fanatical.
Not only you and the guys in malatya, I can see the same similarities between your approach and the man in the cave's approach.
Well done!! You are doing what he prefers you to do.

Are you a good christian by the way?

139.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 06:23 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


To be honest..YES. Both ideas, both approaches are fanatical.
Not only you and the guys in malatya, I can see the same similarities between your approach and the man in the cave's approach.
Well done!! You are doing what he prefers you to do.



ok, let us see, what our handsome turk wrote
i ll just ignore the first part, ok?

Quoting thehandsom:


Are you a good christian by the way?


i feel like being questioned "are you a good comsomol?" that age of pathetic questions seemed have gone away. and i never expected anyone to ask me if im good. did you expect me boast and say "yes im"?
the thing is that im not if i know the definition of a good christian? if you give me one, i shall see if i feet there.

can i ask you the same question?
are you a good muslim?


140.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Nov 2007 Mon 09:41 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting thehandsom:


To be honest..YES. Both ideas, both approaches are fanatical.
Not only you and the guys in malatya, I can see the same similarities between your approach and the man in the cave's approach.
Well done!! You are doing what he prefers you to do.



ok, let us see, what our handsome turk wrote
i ll just ignore the first part, ok?

Quoting thehandsom:


Are you a good christian by the way?


i feel like being questioned "are you a good comsomol?" that age of pathetic questions seemed have gone away. and i never expected anyone to ask me if im good. did you expect me boast and say "yes im"?
the thing is that im not if i know the definition of a good christian? if you give me one, i shall see if i feet there.

can i ask you the same question?
are you a good muslim?



Since you have ignored the first half and no answer to second part, there is no point..Is there?

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