TURKS FIND THEIRSELVES CLOSE TO THE COUNTRIES BELOW (AS I VE SEEN):

OF COURSE AZERBAIJAN - N.CYPRUS - UZBEKISTAN - KAZAKHSTAN - TURKMENISTAN - KIRGIZISTAN

THEN

UKRAINE - GEORGIA - GERMANY (SURPRISING?) - GREECE - SPAIN - ITALY

THENNN

KOREA - INDONESIA - BANGLADESH - PAKISTAN - CUBA - VENEZUELA ( )

WELL THATS ALL I REMEMBER NOW ......

SO THE COUNTRIES THEY DONT LIKE;

FRANCE (NUMBER 1 NOW) - USA - NEW IRAQ

AM I WRONG ABOUT IT?

korea?
hmm, that surprises me!

where is china ?
my city many turkish busniess man most from istanbul
* welcome to china *

well, mltm, its just worth knowing who prefers whom. i found it interesting (thanks rick). i know that those who say that they hate usa, actually deep in heart want usa, they just say so in order to show their solidarity with iraq or some other countries alike. there is no need to be politically correct or even quiet. lets openly say of what we really think and feel, nothing will terribly happen to me if turks happen not to like my country. mltm, dont pacify the feelings or rights to share the feelings. there's nothing wrong in not loving usa or france since its nobody's duty to love. i just noticed one thing, they say they hate, but actually they r not pretty sure o their hatred.
with love

Well...it's all about politics.
We use to say that we hate this we hate that, but infact we hate Bush (or better the people behind him who decide for him too) or they hate Karamanlis or Erdogan and so on.

I switched on the tv yesteray, during the evening news, which is something I hadn't done for quite a long time. I regretted it from the first moment. It was all about 'the new Turkish challenge' (I have no idea what it is this time) and the 'Turkish minority' in Greece etc.

But I knew that I m a member of a turkish website, I have friends who love me here and i love them back . That i celebrated galatasaray's championship and i partied last night with the turkish entry to eurovision's finals.
Serious or silly, important or not, i find hundreds of reasons each day, to prove that I have my own way of seeing things, my own opinion and an open mind to work all the data i receive .

And that bunch of people who rule my country, can do nothing to persuade me that I should hate a whole nation, for the sins that they or we made in a distant past...

I think this is the most ignorant post, I have seen at this site yet. What was the point to this, anyhow?

I voted for her - three times!! And I have NOT voted for Blair

I find it ironic you shall cast the first stones, when you have never been to America. We have 10 million immigrants in our country today, what for? Because were a horrible country, I think not. Unless you have been to the U.S. maybe your watching to much tv.

It's not worth further discussing.

hii guys first think who is the clossest country for turkey azerbajian i dont think soo they are more close to russia ,they make more busnes with russia nort cyprus you said is anybody been there they dont like turkey at all they dont like turkish soldiers there even they protect them they prefer british or american soldier i belive they use british pound all over the country but they always use turkey do you know how mush money turkish govermant spend for cyprus millions of dollars going for what
we have relations ship with this turk countries but thats all we didnt do anythink for them they didnt do for us
how come greece become our friends i dont understand that too old enemy became new friend its imazing
usa try too rule the world we like it or not like it why we agains to america because 600 years ago when ottoman rule the world no body like ottoman now america greatest country in the world and this is their turn i am not judge them they right or wrong but they are strong and we all dont like someone stronger then ourselfs
i hope one day we became greatest country around the world but i dont think i live that much
this is our problem we dont know who is our enemy who is our friend who ever smile to us thats it

TURKS dont hate usa, i dont believe they hate!
i believe these r false declarations made in anger.
if we think a bit logic(teaship is right) why would millions imigrate to usa?
turks definetly dont hate usa!
turks dont hate either greece!

the "dont like" turned into "hate"!

hey, rick, i dont think its ur fault! this is an interesting topic! thats how it works in forums, someone starts smth which later on turns into another thing!
i dont find ur topic negative or politically incorrect!
no nation or country is perfect!

Aslında sevilmeyen şeyler ülkeler ya da insanlar değil, genel manada hükümetlerin politik seçimleri... Yani biz Amerika'yı sevmiyor değiliz, asıl sevmediğimiz Amerikan hükümetinin yaptıkları. Benzer şekilde Fransa için de aynı şeyler söz konusu...

Hadi bunu da biri İngilizce açıklasın.

wow i didnt know a lot of people would have something to say out about my post
i should thank to everyone who wrote their thougths here. you complete idea

Your welcome, Rick. Even though your comments aren't backed up with factual statistical research. That is why it is an opinion and everyone is entitled to their own. We can agree to disagree. No harm done.

darling u forgot about Romania!!!

thats depend if about goverment,high Turkish society ,or awaradge Turkish people.Choises so different for each one,but i can say that Turkish men mostly more interested in with Slavic countries since deep of history

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i bet we all missing a borderless globe,but still many prvialges or prejudicies in our minds,aren't each country close as as much as all others?

and i think theres big missions on politicians and intllectuals for make less this privilages and prejudicies .coz they drawing the borders in the person's brains.we r all close to each other as same as a member of a big&great family...

what is new ıraq?

Susie it is usually the case.
The problem is that the governments spent so many years on both sides doing propaganda for political reasons that any Turk or Greek who never have the chance to know in person a Greek or Turk believes.

It is different in United States since we have the chance to really know each other

I have many great Greek friends whom I trust like I trust my own people and from where I live, the Turkish community and Greek community help each other in many aspects.

I can show you a Greek company which is fanatically supported by Turks and the reverse is true.

My company even uses me with Greek clients because of this fact. They prefer to send me for negotiations and our Greek clients specifically ask for me for assistance. By the way, I am talking about small/medium sized businesses here.

We have so much in common that it still shocks me

i think prejudicies make us blind sometime,ther r so many reasons for like or love evetyhing,so why we looking for silly and unusefull reasons for don't?take of prejudice glasses enough to see all goodness on everythings,this much easy

and to realize everything easier when we been aware of nationality,religions or races just the chance events,and they r only sweet differences on the human life

friendship land's road pass on ''WORLDİSH'' i think ,so never on to Turkish,,Greek,Spanish,Polish,British,Arabic etc.....

It is a sad story

They did too much damage, I mean the politicians, and they introduced both sides as monsters. The saddest thing is/was people believed without questioning because they are/were told so while they are/were young enough to accept everything their families/schools told them to believe.

But I guess it is rapidly changing with globalization since people have the chance to do business around the globe and so know/experience relations with each other in person.

Both governments also gave up feeding that kind of propaganda realizing that it is silly and no more benefits since majority of the people are beginning to laugh at them instead of taking their silly propagandas seriously.

But in your case, there are still Turks and Greeks who believe that we are enemies. When you ask them if they ever known a Greek or a Turk, drink together, or hang out together, etc..; the answer is almost always the same; NO. As you mentioned, when you asked them then why this hate is, you probably get something like; “My grand mom told me once… “Or “everybody knows how come you don’t!!” etc...

It is true that in history, we both make mistakes but it is sad that some people insist on basing their beliefs of nations on mistakes. Some people can only want to see the mistakes and prefer to live in past. For this kind of people, saying that you love a Turk or Greek is a strike to what they believe.

I have one friend here like you guys. He fell in love with this gorgeous, wonderful Greek girl and they are getting married. Although he is willing to live in Greece, both of them agreed not to do so, she found a teaching job in UK, and my friend thinks that his future wife’s career is important than his own (mostly because he does not want to make her family think that he ruined her carrier by insisting on staying in United States so he is ruining his, love is a strange thing) so they will be living in UK.

Anyway, as I said I have many great Greek friends that I will not change it for millions (I guess I am a capitalist, the first thing I can thing of as an exchange value was dollars, Arrggh I hate myself hehe ).

i was just wondering what turkish people's thoughts were on australians? because that hasn't been mentioned.

we get taught a lot here about our "shared" history.

I know about Gallipoli, which we were taught during high school years. We are taught that soldiers from Australia brought to a war in which they did not belong to, and they fought bravely and died bravely for a cause that was not even in their agenda.

As long as I know, Ataturk made a speech addressing to Australian families who lost their children in that war, saying something like "Do not trouble your hearts, your sons are now our sons, we will show the same respect that we are showing to our own soldiers that died here".

But personally, I do not know Australian culture or people and I believe that most of the Turks do not know much about that, too.

This is out of topic, but I love Australian made Sci-Fi series, Farscape, the best scifi on TV ever. I am a big fan of Farscape series, it was brilliant. When the Sci-Fi channel cancelled the series I was among with the ones who were sending faxes, raising campaigns, forcing Sci-Fi channel to step back with their funny decision

They had to air Farscape back! Anyway sorry for hijacking the topic, but truth must be heard

i suppose australia is so far away that turkish people wouldn't really see it as a place to go and visit, unless they have family here.

otherwise, they would only really come into contact with australians when they visit turkey as tourists and at the anzac day ceremonies.

M

After gezbelle's post about "shared history" and Anzacs, I found something that I didn't know. It seems that Turkey and Australia, two distant countries, are trying to develop their relationship. Although it is military , it can serve as a a starting point for two nations for further relations. I just wanted to share it

May 13, 2006

Australia and Turkey have signed a new agreement to strengthen defence cooperation.

Head of the Australian Defence Force Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston and Commander of the Turkish Armed Forces General Hilmi Ozkok formalised the arrangements at a ceremony in Canberra.

Air Chief Marshal Houston said it would strengthen the defence relationship between Australia and Turkey.

"The agreement will give Australia and Turkey the flexibility to enhance cooperation in military and defence areas of mutual interest, including ANZAC Day commemorations, defence materiel cooperation and educational exchanges," he said in a statement.

"Australia and Turkey increasingly share global strategic interests that can benefit from closer defence cooperation."

General Ozkok is visiting Australia as a guest of Air Chief Marshal Houston and will meet Governor General Michael Jeffery and Defence Minister Brendan Nelson.

Air Chief Marshal Houston said Turkey was an active member of NATO and was contributing to operations in which Australia was also involved, such as Afghanistan.

teşekkürler homesick... i didn't know of these arrangements either. that is pretty interesting.

over here in australia, in our anzac day celebrations, i think in the past few years, turkish ex-soldiers who fought in gallipoli are now honoured and march alongside their australian counterparts in the annual anzac day parades.

the turkish soldiers are the only non-australian "enemies" (so to speak, as we didn't fight for the same side then) who are allowed to march.

the japanese and german ex-soldiers from world war 2, etc. aren't allowed to march.

i think it is because of what happened in gallipoli and the stories of friendship/courtesy between the australians, new zealanders, and turkish soldiers (even though we fought on different sides) that we have been told as we grow up.

AND JAPAN...

hey...what about Asians. What's the impression of Asian's in turk's eyes.

Asians (includes Japanese, korean, Thais, Malaysians, Indonesians & not forgetting Singaporeans - yours truly)

ok. what do we hate here?...a President? a government? or the whole nation? Unfortunately, as part of this nation (USA)I feel included in the list which is not fair. We have become judges when in reality, it is not the whole nation's fault for the decisions made by one individual and his followers. I have met very nice Turkish people here and I can not hate no one regarless of its etnicity or political preferences. I have traveled enough and learned how to appreciate people not its government or who they follow. That is why I feel free to be here with you all, sharing my thoughts. I believe each of us no matter where we are from are nice people, capable of appreciate each other...regardless where are we from.

teşekkür ederim

watching turkish tv you can see that they don't like Israel. And Armenia.

Yeah we dont ı dont like them either do you know why?No one loves Israel at all.You know what they done.Armenia hah!Coz they are liar.I'm sure everyone knows about so-called Armenian genocide.This is not true!!They'd been living in Ottoman Empire and they'd been safe and sound.After Slav rebellion they decided to be free.They were already free!!!In Ottoman Empire Everyone had got the same benefits.But they betrayed us.In every war so many men are killed.There's another genocides but no one talks about them!!This is not fair.I dont know what the world wants from us.What have we got here???I cant understand sometimes.If someone doesnt hurt us,We dont do that too We are not a fighter people now.
No one misunderstands me please I just wanted to defend my country when ı got a chance

Yes I know why, I talked about it with my Turkish friend many times and I know you way of thinking. That is why I have written it.

Yes Thanx I like it I just wanted to write that's all maybe other members might not have known about the facts and ı went into details in brief.Because you know there are 112 statue about that genocide.It looks like there are people who agreed with that lie.

take care

I think the problem is that there are very many Armenians abroad who are talking about their tradegy ( for them it was a tragedy) but there are no Turkish talking about their version ( maybe it's not the best word). There are 4 million Turkish in Germany but I've never heard them latking about it anywhere. Armenia has stron lobby abroad but Turkish seem not to think about it much. Maybe the problem is that most of Turkish in Germany go there as workers, generally not educated villagers and they thougt more about making money than about history of their country..

You're right our people are unreactive.But ı can say that we're tired at all.We have politic problems at all times.We're just trying to save ourselves not our country everyone goes abroad these days.This is wrong next year I'm going to America I know that's wrong but ı have no choice to have a good education.this is a vicious circle I'm sorry about my people

why peoples have prejiducies with unvoluntary things?(nationality,race)i think thats the easier and better to look at life with voluntary things(personality,character)

İ don't know about Armenia,and Türkiye,anyone care to explain ?